The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[Dot50Cal]

Post your theories, facts, etc etc here, and nowhere else. Theres too many popping up. ^_^

[Jill Lover]

Too many Jill Lovers out there Dot? :D

So everything counts here? :S

[Dot50Cal]

Yeah, anything Jill related. As long as its not spammy ;p

[Archelon]

Thank God.

[Jill Lover]

That's spamming Archelon!

I guess we'll have to wait until another trailer... the waiting it's getting terrible.

[Vector]

I think all that could be said about Jill has been said already in this forum.

[Becky's Butt]

In RE3, she's voiced by the chick who did Jean Grey's voice in teh 90s X-Men toon.
I liked that.

[riderkid]

thank god its al consolidated into one thread...also jill is working with nickelodeon and carlos to kill nicktoon classics

[Helegad]

I'm working with Capcom to help Jill kill Leon.

[sogar]

I have a theory that Jill died from AIDS, from which she got from Carlos. Well that solves TWO mysteries.

[Helegad]

Um... okaaayyy...

[Vector]

I have a theory that Jill died from AIDS, from which she got from Carlos. Well that solves TWO mysteries.

Makes sense. I like this theory, best one yet!

[Vogue_Dirge]

I have a theory that Jill died from AIDS, from which she got from Carlos. Well that solves TWO mysteries.

Since when was AIDS/HIV funny...?

[sogar]

Since when was AIDS/HIV funny...?

My condolences...

[Vogue_Dirge]

Just watch what you say. My uncle is sying from Aids. Serious illnesses are not punchlines.

[sogar]

Oh, wow man, sorry...

I feel like a douchebag now.

[Vogue_Dirge]

I didn't mean to make you feel that way. It's cool, I hold nothing against you. Just think about what you say, especially things dealing with serious illnesses.

:]

[missvalentine]

lets get back on topic.

i love Jill, i think she is the greatest character in history, who agrees with me?

[Vogue_Dirge]

^ I agree!

Althought Jill comes in second on my favorite characters list, I do adore her. Jill is essentially THE face of the Resident Evil franchise.

I want Jill back in an RE game SOON God damnit...
*shakes fist at Capcom*

[missvalentine]

^ I agree!

Althought Jill comes in second on my favorite characters list, I do adore her. Jill is essentially THE face of the Resident Evil franchise.

I want Jill back in an RE game SOON God damnit...
*shakes fist at Capcom*

yeah Jill is like RE's mascot.

forget about Leon, he will die out once RE5 is released, Jill will always be the face of RE.

BTW who is your favorite character ever then if it's not Jill?

[Vector]

RE's mascot is 'the zombie.'

[missvalentine]

RE's mascot is 'the zombie.'

well yes, thye are what everyone thinks of when RE is mentioned, but out of all the non dead things in RE Jill is the mascot character.

[Vector]

If anything, that's because to fans who don't know the series, she made it seem like RE3's main character was a prostitute.

[Vogue_Dirge]

My favorite character above Jill is Ada.
:]

[missvalentine]

If anything, that's because to fans who don't know the series, she made it seem like RE3's main character was a prostitute.

Jill is not a protitute, just cause she wears a skirt and a tube top doesn't mean she's a whore.

[Vector]

I never said she was a whore. Read my post again.

[missvalentine]

I never said she was a whore. Read my post again.

i know you didn't, but i just get pissed when people even mention Jill like that, sorry.

[Vector]

I love Jill, too. I won't lie, her outfit and appearance in RE3 fed directly into my pre-pubescent fantasies. Shortly thereafter I discovered the worlds of hentai, and role-playing on AOL. Jill was a big crush of mine.

I've since moved on from heaving pixelated breasts to actual human females, and I don't regret the transition...but Jill will always hold a special place in my heart. Check out my avatar if it isn't already obvious.

[Crimsonheadkill]

*sigh* more jill lovers

[P Anderson DIE]

I'm another Jill lover, If she dont show in Resi5 will be very disapointed. When you think about it though when is the last time a main character made a cameo in a Re game. No Ada is not a main character, neither is Barry. Infact I dont think its been done before.

[Helegad]

This topic is doomed to sexual chat about Jill...

[missvalentine]

I'm another Jill lover, If she dont show in Resi5 will be very disapointed. When you think about it though when is the last time a main character made a cameo in a Re game. No Ada is not a main character, neither is Barry. Infact I dont think its been done before.

i don't want Jill to appear as a side kick character or a cameo in another game, she is to big of a character to do that, so unless evey other character does that as well i wil not be happy.

Jill in main role or non at all.

[P Anderson DIE]

Really you would rather wait til Resi6? Could be like 2 or 3 years away, got a feeling they gonna remake 2 after Re5. There is no gurantee she will show in Re6 either tell you what though if its Leon in Re6 then I am so done with Resi. I got nothing against him but he is becoming the face of the franchise and there are alot better characters than him.

[missvalentine]

Really you would rather wait til Resi6? Could be like 2 or 3 years away, got a feeling they gonna remake 2 after Re5. There is no gurantee she will show in Re6 either tell you what though if its Leon in Re6 then I am so done with Resi. I got nothing against him but he is becoming the face of the franchise and there are alot better characters than him.

yeah, in fact if Jill dies in RE5 im done with the series, it's nothing like the classics now anyway, so whats the point?

[P Anderson DIE]

True, Im starting to think less and less of Re4, I hope she shows up though I just wanna see her in next gen graphics.

[Jill Lover]

I'm the only and original Jill Lover here ¬¬....x D

RE3 oufit it's just damn-sexy I know that leaded to Hentai comics, but well that has nothing to do.. even Chun-Li with that sexy cop style got her comics. I really don't like Hentai, it's like... japanese fantasies, I love big boobs and all but it's all disvirtuated for me in those comics. In REmake her skirt is longer than RE3... also Conor oufit has a detailed neckline.

I can't help myself but laugh everytime I read Helegad posts :P

[Biohazard EX]

You know I was thinking... If Jill really was dead... The one thing that would make sense is if she died of Cancer... I mean, at the end of RE3, that nuclear blast was awfully close to the helicopter, there's no way some radiation didn't reach them.
But that's probably not the case, since, you know... It would make sense...

[Helegad]

What a stupid way to go out, cancer. Capcom's explanation:

"Oh yeah, she has been fighting bio-terror for a decade, then BOOM decided not to wake up one morning, and an autopsy found a massive cancerous tumor in her brain. Sounds perfectly heroic."

[Darkmoon]

I think, if she does die before the game even start, a route I consider extremely unlikely, the most likely explanation will be complications from being infected with Nemesis. The cure Carlos created might well not be perfect, he may have botched it, or maybe the Virus Nemesis had was a mutated strain of it. I think it makes the most sense, but as I said, I find it highly unlikely.

[Helegad]

I agree with Darkmoon. Something that's actually believable, not just "cancer".

[TheSelfishGene]

I agree with Darkmoon. Something that's actually believable, not just "cancer".

Because cancer's not real.

[Darkmoon]

Oh, it is, and it's terrible. It just seems to me that to kill a character like Jill off that way, when you have the perfectly usable 'Nemesis got her in the end' story would be criminal.

[Jill Lover]

She must be alive.. I don't want to believe any of those theories...

[Mr. Spencer]

I used to like Jill, truth be told. I thought she was a good character. Burning with resolve to stop Umbrella, as determined as Chris to get the job done. She, along with Chris, survived what happened in the mansion. They found out about Umbrella's secrets, and vowed to bring them to justice for their actions. Both of them are headstrong, resilient and focused. But a lot of fans of her character seem to appreciate her just because she's "lol woman".

[Jill Lover]

What do you exactly mean? Don't you think you are putting in too much attention?

[Mr. Spencer]

I've bitten my tongue about it for a good while now. Couldn't hold back on my opinion anymore.

[Member_of_STARS]

I liked Jill as a character but Dot changed it all, forever.

[A-J]

I liked Jill as a character but Dot changed it all, forever.

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do tell more please.

[Member_of_STARS]

Resident Evil Apocalypse, Jill showing what she shouldnt have shown.

´nuff said. These forums are already full of pervs.

[Jill Lover]

Oh well... O_o What's that for?

[aris13]

Jill is a good character I hope that her story will be resolved in RE 5.

[Biohazard EX]

I agree with Darkmoon. Something that's actually believable, not just "cancer".

Cancer would be the more realistic situation. Do you know how deadly radiation poisoning is? I'm surprised Jill and Carlos didn't end up with Radiation burns after that blast. But just the fact that the shockwave hit them means they were within distance to receive some serious radiation poisoning.
Honestly, has nobody ever watched the ending to RE3 and thought about the fact that a nuclear explosion would create a LOT of radiation?

[Mr. Spencer]

Wouldn't the Compton Effect knock out the helicopter's electrical systems?

[Biohazard EX]

Wouldn't the Compton Effect knock out the helicopter's electrical systems?

Yes, it would have, and that also bothered the hell out of me. So I guess you have a point. If Capcom's gonna ignore one law of the real world, why not two?
So strictly speaking, if Jill was dead, it would make the most sense if she died in a helicopter crash on her way out of Raccoon City...

[Jill Lover]

That cancer theory makes me laugh.. Sorry... it would be that stupid to go and say "Oh Jill surprisingly died from a cerebral tumour because you all know about radation in Raccoon City, don't you?"... BOOH!

[Biohazard EX]

That cancer theory makes me laugh.. Sorry... it would be that stupid to go and say "Oh Jill surprisingly died from a cerebral tumour because you all know about radation in Raccoon City, don't you?"... BOOH!

Umm, no, they could tell it in flashbacks, showing Chris come visit Jill in the hospital. And with every flashback, and every visit, her condition deteriorating, and her becoming weaker and weaker, until one day he shows up and she's not there anymore.

[Mr. Spencer]

That cancer theory makes me laugh.. Sorry... it would be that stupid to go and say "Oh Jill surprisingly died from a cerebral tumour because you all know about radation in Raccoon City, don't you?"... BOOH!

Sarah Connor died from leukemia.

[Jill Lover]

Umm, no, they could tell it in flashbacks, showing Chris come visit Jill in the hospital. And with every flashback, and every visit, her condition deteriorating, and her becoming weaker and weaker, until one day he shows up and she's not there anymore.

That would be dramatic, and would mean that she's gone for good! :'(

Oh yeah, sorry.. I'm now allowed to add positive comments towards a fictional character...>_<

Nice point BioEx, I like all that theory about flashbacks showing Jill being ill. ^_^

[Biohazard EX]

That would be dramatic, and would mean that she's gone for good! :'(

Oh yeah, sorry.. I'm now allowed to add positive comments towards a fictional character...>_<

Nice point BioEx, I like all that theory about flashbacks showing Jill being ill. ^_^

You can't spell Jill without ill! :lol:

[The Dude]

Wouldn't the Compton Effect knock out the helicopter's electrical systems?

Barrys Super Awesome Helicopter is immune to real logic. :waga waga

Hate to break it to everyone, but Jill committed suicide, too many scandalous topics on RE boards, couldn't take the stress anymore. :rollseyes

[Stars1356]

I have the feeling that Wesker killed Jill to get back at Chris and then cloned her. I don't know but all these Jill theories are mind boggling.

[missvalentine]

I used to like Jill, truth be told. I thought she was a good character. Burning with resolve to stop Umbrella, as determined as Chris to get the job done. She, along with Chris, survived what happened in the mansion. They found out about Umbrella's secrets, and vowed to bring them to justice for their actions. Both of them are headstrong, resilient and focused. But a lot of fans of her character seem to appreciate her just because she's "lol woman".

i don't like her just because she is a woman, i like everything about Jill, she is my favorite character ever, EVER!!!!

if i liked characters for looks only then someone like Lara Croft or one of the Dead or alive girls would be my number 1 character, but there not.

also IMO i think Jill is the hottest female character ever, XD, Lara's got nothing on Jill, and Jill's personality adds to her hotness, i love her jokes with Barry as well.



Umm, no, they could tell it in flashbacks, showing Chris come visit Jill in the hospital. And with every flashback, and every visit, her condition deteriorating, and her becoming weaker and weaker, until one day he shows up and she's not there anymore.

i would cry, i think i would actually cry, i don't want it to happen, Jill cant die, if she dies ill be forced to consider it non canon, or ill go INSANE!!!!!!!!!!, XD.

[Helegad]

When people say that video game characters are hot, it kinda makes me think that it's a bit nerdy, because I would choose a real chick over a video game character any day.

[Biohazard EX]

i would cry, i think i would actually cry, i don't want it to happen, Jill cant die, if she dies ill be forced to consider it non canon, or ill go INSANE!!!!!!!!!!, XD.

And do you know WHY you would cry? Because it would be an effective storytelling convention. Something I don't think Capcom is capable of.

[missvalentine]

When people say that video game characters are hot, it kinda makes me think that it's a bit nerdy, because I would choose a real chick over a video game character any day.

anyone and everyone would choose a real life person over a video game character, im still gonna say Jill is hot though.


And do you know WHY you would cry? Because it would be an effective storytelling convention. Something I don't think Capcom is capable of.

i don't really want RE to become an emotional story at all though, i like it the way it is or was, i don't want a repeat of CVX.

[Darkmoon]

CVX was bad because they screwed it up by rushing things. It would be like Scully getting hurt in the first episode of the X-Files and Mulder declaring his undying love for her there and then.

If Jill was to die from some nasty disease, be it infection from Nemesis or cancer before the game begins, it could be done very well. But it would need to have a point, and I can't see that being part of what drives Chris. Maybe why he seems so depressed, but honestly, they could do that a few other ways without wiping out Jill.

Of course, I expect to see Jill in RE5 somehow, and if she's meant to be dead before the game starts her corpse being taken by Wesker for study on the long term effects of what Nemesis did to her, then being reactivated as a monster, would make sense.

[Jill Lover]

It is quite obvious that Chris knows that Jill is dead, the problem is how is he going to tell that to Sheva... I bet there is going to be a flashback explaining how.. maybe Jill just died in a mission... who knows... I don't know... If she's alive why she would make Chris believe that she's dead? It wouldn't be funny for him.

[missvalentine]

maybe no one knows Jill is alive apart from Jill herself.

[Jill Lover]

That would be great. But well... Chris would be so pissed off.

[missvalentine]

i think upon finding out she is still alive, Chris would feel joy and releif, not anger.

i mean i don't think this will happen.

Jill - "hay Chris im still alive"

Chris - "****!!!!!! kawd damn it woman, i though you were dead, oh well" *pulls gun out and kills her out of anger*

[Jill Lover]

Jill has to return in a bigger way, shooting out something, ala badass way of Lara Croft. If that does not happen I'd rather see her underground... she deserves more than just a grave. And if she's actually dead... (sniff) I want every angle of her death, pictures and wallpapers :D (?!)

[missvalentine]

i think Chris should be on the brink of death,and just as Wesker is about to kill him, Jill should make her appearance and save Chris and Sheva as well.

or something epic like that anyway, but she needs to take control, she needs to be like she was in Remake and RE3, not like in UC.

in fact if Jill turns up in RE5 she should be the superior officer and take change of the mission and Chris should be under her command.

[Jill Lover]

I know, if she is like she was in REUC (attemping to grab a pipe and stuff) she can consider herself dead.

[Sephiroth]

I have a theory that Jill died from AIDS, from which she got from Carlos. Well that solves TWO mysteries.

o_oUmm ok if you say so :uhh:

I dout Jill died from aids it's just stupied and I doint think she really has that much love intrest in Carlos to begin with.

P.S you should be care full with what you say you might upset someone.

[Biohazard EX]

anyone and everyone would choose a real life person over a video game character, im still gonna say Jill is hot though.



i don't really want RE to become an emotional story at all though, i like it the way it is or was, i don't want a repeat of CVX.

Yeah, well, in an ideal world, they'd stop screwing around and not pretend like they killed off Jill in the first place.
Because, honestly, RE5 has either one of two scenarios:

1. Jill is dead. Hardcore fans are pissed off. They killed off the original heroine of the series.

2. Jill is alive. Oooh, big plot twist! We didn't see that one coming one bit!

If she's alive, then the whole notion of telling the fans that she's dead is stupid. It really is. Unless she's revealed to be alive in RE6, in which case as of RE5, they dare not hint that she survived.

[Jill Lover]

But if there's a plot twist, that would mean she's now a project of Tricell, which would be a big let down for me, cause she would not be a heroine anymore... but a B-O-W.

Like I said before, she must return in a bigger way, like Lara Croft.


Unless she's revealed to be alive in RE6, in which case as of RE5, they dare not hint that she survived.

That would be great. Jill lead character in RE6. Oh... Wishful thinking.
Whatever it is I'd rather see her dead instead of doing backflips and running through the walls.

[Vector]

If she comes back, let's just all agree that she should be wearing skimpy clothing with lots of cleavage.

[Biohazard EX]

But if there's a plot twist, that would mean she's now a project of Tricell, which would be a big let down for me, cause she would not be a heroine anymore... but a B-O-W.

Like I said before, she must return in a bigger way, like Lara Croft.



That would be great. Jill lead character in RE6. Oh... Wishful thinking.
Whatever it is I'd rather see her dead instead of doing backflips and running through the walls.

She wouldn't be though. Because her coming back in RE6 would be the big twist. Which means they can't advertise her.

[Jill Lover]

I hope you're right... I can't wait until March to get spoilers about it. I won't believe it if she's actually dead and they show how she died...

[Biohazard EX]

I don't really care. I hope she is dead just so that half the Resident Evil veterans are pissed off at Capcom.

[Jill Lover]

Cheers up if she isn't.

[P Anderson DIE]

Like the theory's about the Nemesis virus could have still been in her blood but we would have seen that in Umbrella Chronicles thats like 3 years after Re3 dont you think she would have mutated or at least have red eyes like Wesker. Also the cancer theory that BiohazardEx mentioned should be right with the radiation and all but we also would have seen a sign of that in Umbrella Chronicles theres no way te B.S.A.A. would employ someone to go take down the biggest evil coropartion on the planet while you kno she is dieing from cancer? If she is dead its gotta be on a mission or ambushed by Wesker or something like I said before though if Wesker where to take out Jill then why not Chris? We all know he would be the primary target. Less Jill took a bullet for Chris or something. Would be pretty heroic way to go out and could why be Chris seems so emotionally drained or that coul be up to Capcoms bad characteristcs.

[Canas Renvall]

Well Leon took a bullet for Ada. Looks like that really drained his emotions too. :lol:

[missvalentine]

I don't really care. I hope she is dead just so that half the Resident Evil veterans are pissed off at Capcom.

you would think so wouldn't you, but from what ive seen on gamefaqs, all those bloody traitors like elusion that all of a sudden love the new style are all happy she is dead because they say RE is unrealistic if she is not dead, then go on to say she was unimportant and a side character anyway.

i know it's completely stupid but that's what they beleive, yet give any hint that Leon or Chris are unimportant and they all go phycotic flameing you calling you a troll.

[P Anderson DIE]

Jill is the most important character in Resi5 she got the most fans specially out of the women so I belive that is the most important, she has headlined two games so far what other woman has? Bunch of idiots. Also she single handidly took out Nemesis the most bad ass B.O.W. in the series cept for maybe Lisa Trevor.

[missvalentine]

Jill is the most important character in Resi5 she got the most fans specially out of the women so I belive that is the most important, she has headlined two games so far what other woman has? Bunch of idiots. Also she single handidly took out Nemesis the most bad ass B.O.W. in the series cept for maybe Lisa Trevor.

yeah i agree.

but what i find even more idiotic about gamefaqs is that, they say Jill has to die for it to be realistic (cause somehow main characters surviving is stupid and annoying to them now and thy want every character except Chris and Leon dead, so it'smore realistic now), but then you give any mention of Wesker winning and killing Chris and they all cry and flame you and yell troll at you, which is stupid because realistically Wesker could kick Chris's ass while sleeping, and i don't know what random stupid plot device capcoms gonna pull out of there ass to make him able to win.

but there hypocrites i say, Jill and Wesker can die but Chris and Leon are somehow invulnerable or something.


EDIT: those pricks on gamefaqs got me banned, ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stupid whiners complaining to the mods.

[P Anderson DIE]

Lol sorry to hear about the ban dont worry though dont sound like your messing much, sound like a bunch of leon fan boys let em have thier crappy board.

[Jill Lover]

You should behave missvalentine, sometimes people take too serious certain answers on the internet.. that's why you might have got a ban at gamefaqs. You know, is all about who is most important.

[missvalentine]

Lol sorry to hear about the ban dont worry though dont sound like your messing much, sound like a bunch of leon fan boys let em have thier crappy board.

there are a few good people there though, most of them migrated here.


You should behave missvalentine, sometimes people take too serious certain answers on the internet.. that's why you might have got a ban at gamefaqs. You know, is all about who is most important.

i was behaving, and was trying very hard to do so, foggle also got banned i found out, and so did some other guys i know there, another mass banning has happened it seems.

anyways i think it would be kinda stupid to have Jill die cause she cought cancer, or because of T-Virus infection, and it would cause more plot holes as well.

[Jill Lover]

I hope she at least is confirmed for the game, I can't wait to get some scans...

[Helegad]

It seems she has been confirmed with the gravestone.

[Vogue_Dirge]

Well. Dumbledore from Harry Potter was an important character, and JK Rowling killed him off.

Capcom could kill off Jill. Like I stated in another topic it would give Resident Evil more depth and emotion.

Don't get me wrong all you Jill fans, I don't want to see her dead, but I could see it happening.

[missvalentine]

^ yeah but dumbledore wasn't a protagonist was he, this is different.

[Vogue_Dirge]

Dumbledore was a protagonist in a certain light. But yes, this does deviate from Jill (what with Jill being a central character).

[missvalentine]

Dumbledore was more of a mentor character for Harry, a bit like Gandalf from LotR's.

[A-J]

oh god stop it with the dumbleodores please ...

if your going to use an example, atleast use a better *hip* one ..

like big boss ..

[Vector]

Big Boss was killed off three times. :o

[A-J]

exactly, and he always came back ..

and capcom showing jill's tombstone just confirms that she will be in the game in one form or another.

[Carnivol]

I've kinda stayed out of the whole Jill Tombstone topic thing... so I dunno if people have really thought about this before, but...

What if the game has multiple endings?
(Resident Evil 1 being a good sample of a multi-ending game of the "Who lives?" and "Who dies?" type.)
Just a though...

[missvalentine]

^ good idea, although then we will fight constantly over which ending is cannon and did Jill really die or not.

[Vector]

Ehhh...I really hope multiple endings are dead. I never liked them. Especially in games with sequels and good storylines. How do you know what's canon?

[Jill Lover]

Yeah, that's true. I don't really want to see multiple endings, and I think that it's unlikely to happen in RE5. They told that Jill's grave is important to the plot... so there's something more about it.

[TheSelfishGene]

How do you know what's canon?

Obviously it's this one :D

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=HHU2eqCEJ4o

I wouldn't mind if it had multiple endings. I find it really motivates me to play through the game again.

[missvalentine]

i wouldn't mind multilpe endings, but more like in RE3 or Outbreak than RE1 maybe.

[Carnivol]

Multiple endings are a fantastic thing. Ads proper replay value. Sequels decide which one will be the "canonical ending", and even in those cases they're often able to leave it up to the user what they feel is the "right ending" for them. It is also easier to create something to leave a bit of after thought that way. (For those who like that kinda stuff).

The more branches there are for decisions you make, the more interesting the story can get when you start going down the different paths and "experiment" with things.

[A-J]

i don't see multiple ending in this game's path, it seems to focused on the singular thing its doing ..

[Vector]

Multiple endings are a fantastic thing. Ads proper replay value. Sequels decide which one will be the "canonical ending", and even in those cases they're often able to leave it up to the user what they feel is the "right ending" for them. It is also easier to create something to leave a bit of after thought that way. (For those who like that kinda stuff).

The more branches there are for decisions you make, the more interesting the story can get when you start going down the different paths and "experiment" with things.

Replay value is added through things like online co-op, unlockables, trophies/achievements, and experiencing the story again. All of these things, in my opinion, are a thousand times better than the confusion of multiple endings. I remember for years not knowing whether or not Meryl Silverburgh actually survived the Shadow Moses incident, and it pissed me off.

[Biohazard EX]

Replay value is added through things like online co-op, unlockables, trophies/achievements, and experiencing the story again. All of these things, in my opinion, are a thousand times better than the confusion of multiple endings. I remember for years not knowing whether or not Meryl Silverburgh actually survived the Shadow Moses incident, and it pissed me off.

Co-op, trophies/achievments mean so little to me. I could care less about stuff like that.

The fact that we didn't know whether Meryl was alive was cool. Why do you need the story to be handed to you on a silver platter? I mean, they way they set up MGS2 was that either way could've been potentially canon. And that was awesome, evidence actually led to Meryl being dead in MGS2. Nevertheless, I think multiple endings are awesome. But Resident Evil is in Linear Country now.

[P Anderson DIE]

Theres gonna be one ending and thats Jill owning Wesker with Chris in the background, I mean enough with the dudes headlining the franchise, If you ask me capcom gone gay. Res4 = Leon Degeneration = Leon Res5 = Chris, Wheres all the female?

[missvalentine]

Theres gonna be one ending and thats Jill owning Wesker with Chris in the background, I mean enough with the dudes headlining the franchise, If you ask me capcom gone gay. Res4 = Leon Degeneration = Leon Res5 = Chris, Wheres all the female?

i agree

female protagonists >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> male protagonists.

but thats just my personel preferance though.

[A-J]

GiRl PoWeR 4 TEH Win !


wait, what the hell am i saying ! I demand my cup of tea dammit !

[P Anderson DIE]

Lol its not like that I usually hate the female heroin specially when its people like Alice or the girls from the alien vs predator and freddy vs jason film, Just prefer Jill and Claire as apposed to Chris and Leon.

[Petronio]

http://www.capcom.co.jp/topics/bh5.html

In the banner you can see Chris leaving flowers to Jill, on her gravestone... :(

[P Anderson DIE]

Page cannot be found check your link, Is it the official Re site?

[A-J]

snap shot of said moment please ?

[Carnivol]

Fixed his broken link (was missing an l at the end)

[P Anderson DIE]

Well I'll be damned, Thought for a second the grave next to it said Rebbeca Chambers, Maybe not though looks like George or sumin. Well...I dont know what to think anymore... I aint been this confused since I watched series 4 of Lost. Damn you Capcom stop screwing with my head is she dead or not!!??

[TheSelfishGene]

I saw that earlier too.
Bizzare that Chris is in his fatigues, with weapons...

[Petronio]

I saw that earlier too.
Bizzare that Chris is in his fatigues, with weapons...

Well... it obviously a photoshop work.

I wonder what is the meaning of that banner...

[Jill Lover]

O_O!!!

So Chris knows that Jill is dead? I don't like this at all!... Can anyone make out what does the grave say?

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6361/jillsum6.jpg

I'm in shock!

[P Anderson DIE]

I have no idea Jilllover something bout every loving memorey I think, its all distorted the grave looks way older than 2 years.

[Petronio]

O_O!!!

So Chris knows that Jill is dead? I don't like this at all!... Can anyone make out what does the grave say?

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6361/jillsum6.jpg

I'm in shock!

In ever loving effort of aur dear BSAA Jill Valentine 1974 -2006.



And the japanese line says: "This world... It it worth protecting this world eve at the cost of the life?"

PS:Please correct the grammar of the last sentence.

[missvalentine]

NO!!!!! WHAT!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this cant be true.

*cries*

[P Anderson DIE]

Well if she is dead they going the right way about losing alot of loyal fans, Specially the die hards and there aint many of them left.

[missvalentine]

i gonna go cry my self to sleep.

but wait, maybe Chris just thinks Jill is dead but she isn't really dead, I MUST CLING TO THIS SHREAD OF HOPE OR INSANITY WILL TAKE ME!!!!!!!!!

[P Anderson DIE]

Lol no point thinking about it you'll drive yourself mental, March is a long way to go yet. But...Nah it aint looking good :-(

[missvalentine]

i refuse to have my account named after a dead character, SHE IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!


i don't care what crapcom says, she is alive, to me she is alive.

*falls down and sobs on the floor*

[P Anderson DIE]

Lol way to be strong!

[Vector]

Hahahah! She's really dead, oh man.

[Petronio]

Mmm.. I don't understand why, after TGS a lot of people though she was alive, and now, after having seen a photoshop job made by capcom, everybody thinks she is dead...

Nothing has changed since TGS. It was clear that Chris was aware of Jill's "death". We have to see if she is really dead.

Capcom says "She is dead", and then use a fake pitcure? Why don't they show a ingame pitcure of her funeral, or her death, or anything elese instead of that fake image?

(If I'm not wrog I saw chris "position" in fron of Jill's tomb in one of the latest trailer)

[Bianca]

I don't see how this new picture reveals anything more than what we already knew. I mean, it seemed obvious Chris knew Jill was dead. His statement in one of the trailers ("Don't worry, my last partner was a woman, too...") sort of confirmed that for me, even though that trailer came out before we knew Jill was "dead."

I'm still certain that Jill shows up somewhere in this game. When Wesker says in the TGS trailer, "But, now that your partner has arrived, I'll leave you two to catch you," that, to me, sounds like he's referring to Jill, NOT Sheva. The trailer leads us to believe it's Sheva, but the tone in Wesker's voice makes it pretty obvious it's not. So... I don't know... I'm fairly certain Jill pops up in RE5 (and given Wesker's snide tone, I'm assuming the Jill/Chris reunion isn't too positive), but whether or not that means she's the Masked Woman is obviously debatable.

[P Anderson DIE]

Yeah come to think of it that is definatley photoshop because that isnt Africa in the photo and the outfit he is wearing he changes into after arriving in Africa, In the trailer when he is driving there he is wearing casuals. But then again the wouldnt show an actual image of Jill dead because well that would just kill all the buzz and thier sales. I have faith she is alive but its like my future with Resident Evil its on wafer thin ice. So dont cock it up!!

[Biohazard EX]

Yeah come to think of it that is definatley photoshop because that isnt Africa in the photo and the outfit he is wearing he changes into after arriving in Africa, In the trailer when he is driving there he is wearing casuals. But then again the wouldnt show an actual image of Jill dead because well that would just kill all the buzz and thier sales. I have faith she is alive but its like my future with Resident Evil its on wafer thin ice. So dont cock it up!!

Actually, Chris was working out in that shirt. Then his muscles got so big that he hasn't been able to take it off ever since.

[Vector]

Why would Capcom photoshop a banner on their own website...?

[Sunglasses]

Abviously the picture isn't an in-game screen, Chris wearing combat clothes in a cemetery... :lol: impossible
That's a phototshop work made by Capcom, and even an ape could do that XD
This kind of picture surely doesn't nourish the hopes for a still alive Jill, but I'm sure Capcom is going to stun us during the game :rollseyes

@ChrisRedfield29
Capcom is just trying to shock us... I think this may be reason why Capcom did this.

[Biohazard EX]

It might not be photoshopped, they could've just created it as a promo image. Remember in Metal Gear Solid 4, the teaser scene of Snake putting the gun in his mouth? That's not exactly how it happened in game. It's just promo stuff.

[Sunglasses]

It might not be photoshopped, they could've just created it as a promo image. Remember in Metal Gear Solid 4, the teaser scene of Snake putting the gun in his mouth? That's not exactly how it happened in game. It's just promo stuff.

yes you can be right, but photoshopped or promo image... that's not an in-game picture for sure

[Vector]

Remember in Metal Gear Solid 4, the teaser scene of Snake putting the gun in his mouth? That's not exactly how it happened in game. It's just promo stuff.

Well, that's because they changed the sequence of events. They basically changed the whole game.

MGS2's first trailer also showed Snake fighting RAY on the tanker. Don't forget that.

[Biohazard EX]

Well, that's because they changed the sequence of events. They basically changed the whole game.

MGS2's first trailer also showed Snake fighting RAY on the tanker. Don't forget that.

Yeah, but they were showing that promo scene up to 2 months before the release of MGS4. They had it on the Metal Gear Saga Vol. 2 DVD, and I'm pretty sure that by that time, they already had the actual scene.

[News Bot]

The photo is so photoshopped it's unreal. XD

Both the grave, the flowers and Chris are all taken from different sources.

[CODE_umb87]

But the graveyard scenery kinda looks like an in-game picture. Obviously the reason why Capcom did this was to get more peoples attention. The more they point this out the more obvious it becomes she's alive.

[Jill Lover]

I won't believe this unless someone play the game and PM with official Info.

[Vector]

Or you could, you know, play the game yourself and not be a stubborn weenie.

[Biohazard EX]

Or, as an alternative, you could just stop caring.

[Vector]

JL's a big boy, he could defend himself.

But I couldn't care less whether someone plays the game or not, I just think it's stupid that people are gonna be so stubborn as to not buy the game because it's not the way it used to be, and then have the balls to ask someone else to send them a private message because they're curious about the story.

[Itashious_boy]

im gunna make a giant jill valentine, football mascot costume :D ill take picturs of it when i do so xD

[CubanOlive07]

OKAY HERE IS THE TRUTH SURROUNDING JILL'S DEATH

I got a call the other day from Stevie Valentine, Jill's retarded half brother. It turns out that Chris was involved in a romantic relationship with Jill at the time of her death. They went out on a date to see Resident Evil Apocalypse, a documentary about the Racoon City incident. Jill was so dissappointed by her portrayal that after the movie she overdosed on green herbs and suffered a heart attack. Ever since that day, Chris has lived in fear, fear that he will be made a fool of in a future Paul Andersen sequel. :'(

[Andyfer_Ruu]

JL's a big boy, he could defend himself.

But I couldn't care less whether someone plays the game or not, I just think it's stupid that people are gonna be so stubborn as to not buy the game because it's not the way it used to be, and then have the balls to ask someone else to send them a private message because they're curious about the story.

Agreed!
Why bother with knowing details about the game if you dont care about its new direction?
Go buy the game and find out for yourself if you wnt to know about Jill or anything else about the game.

[ThWorldGreatest]

But the graveyard scenery kinda looks like an in-game picture. Obviously the reason why Capcom did this was to get more peoples attention. The more they point this out the more obvious it becomes she's alive.

yeah that's why im very certain that Jill is alive and kicking , they're tempting us just like how Kojima kept showing snake trying to commit suicide in MGS4.

OKAY HERE IS THE TRUTH SURROUNDING JILL'S DEATH

I got a call the other day from Stevie Valentine, Jill's retarded half brother. It turns out that Chris was involved in a romantic relationship with Jill at the time of her death. They went out on a date to see Resident Evil Apocalypse, a documentary about the Racoon City incident. Jill was so dissappointed by her portrayal that after the movie she overdosed on green herbs and suffered a heart attack. Ever since that day, Chris has lived in fear, fear that he will be made a fool of in a future Paul Andersen sequel. :'(
that made my day , thank you :P

[Biohazard EX]

Agreed!
Why bother with knowing details about the game if you dont care about its new direction?
Go buy the game and find out for yourself if you wnt to know about Jill or anything else about the game.

Which is why I simply couldn't care less. In fact, I don't WANT to know what happens in RE5.

[P Anderson DIE]

There is no doubt in my mind that we will see her again but what's bothering me is the role she will have when she makes her "comeback" because what is the point in turning her evil? Less your gonna kill of Wesker isnt one matrix style hella bad guy enough for a series. Plus i've been waiting for Jill to headline a game since Nemesis and thats been a very long time now. If Resi6 is Leon again then no thank you! Infact HELL NO!!

[Andyfer_Ruu]

Which is why I simply couldn't care less. In fact, I don't WANT to know what happens in RE5.

Fair does to you :) at least you actuay said it

[missvalentine]

i've been waiting for Jill to headline a game since Nemesis and thats been a very long time now. If Resi6 is Leon again then no thank you! Infact HELL NO!!

I somewhat agree here.

ive been waiting for Jill's next game as well, but also i feared that capcom will stuff her up and change her character like they did with Leon and Chris, so maybe her dieing will save her from capcoms evil butcher knife,

still i wanted to Jill in a new game though, and i sure as hell hope that Leon is not the star of RE6, they better not just throw Claire away cause she's a girl, or worse turn her into a female version of Leon if they do use her in RE6.

[Darkmoon]

I must admit, I'm wondering how Capcom will reimagine Jill for there new target audience. Maybe a crack-ho. Skimpy outfit, tiny, tiny waist, constantly saved by mail characters because her body is took weak to lift a gun now, let alone fight a monster.

Or maybe she'll now be a thief, retired from saving folk and out purely for herself, forced into a situation with evil monsters by Wesker's manipulations, uncaring about others on the outside but with a heart of gold on the inside. And also on the outside skin tight clothes that barely classify as existing.

[Petronio]

I somewhat agree here.

ive been waiting for Jill's next game as well, but also i feared that capcom will stuff her up and change her character like they did with Leon and Chris, so maybe her dieing will save her from capcoms evil butcher knife,

still i wanted to Jill in a new game though, and i sure as hell hope that Leon is not the star of RE6, they better not just throw Claire away cause she's a girl, or worse turn her into a female version of Leon if they do use her in RE6.

Already done. REDegeneration is her last RE Chapter.
As leon said, she decided fight evil in a different way, unlike him and Chris. So, no Claire return in a REgame.

And... I think Capcom will make Ada retire after RE6.

From now on, only men as heroes.

[CODE_umb87]

Already done. REDegeneration is her last RE Chapter.
As leon said, she decided fight evil in a different way, unlike him and Chris. So, no Claire return in a REgame.

And... I think Capcom will make Ada retire after RE6.

From now on, only men as heroes.

Hmm, how can you be so sure. Ada gained massive popularity in RE4, and I dont see no reason why Claire cant be in another RE game.

[Andyfer_Ruu]

Jill will probebly headline another game eventualy, i think the last game will have all characters in. Personaly i hope Barry makes a return at some point, he's kick ass!

[aris13]

I don't think that Claire will return as a main character, she served her purpose in the series and Chris will never let her join a bio terrorism organization he wants to protect her from all of this. Same thing for Barry, he has a family he don't wants to get involved in the fight against bio terrorism.

[P Anderson DIE]

Ok so no Claire, Ada, Jill becoming a little bit of a sausage fest now aint it. Oh dear even Capcom are gay.

[CubanOlive07]

i want a "jill sandwich"

[Bianca]

I don't think that Claire will return as a main character, she served her purpose in the series and Chris will never let her join a bio terrorism organization he wants to protect her from all of this. Same thing for Barry, he has a family he don't wants to get involved in the fight against bio terrorism.

I think with Claire it depends how "big" of a role Sherry will end up having in the series. I mean, if RE5 leaves off with no closure for Sherry, then Claire will pretty much have to return as a main character in order to help finish Sherry's storyline.

And, if for some reason Jill really *is* dead, then they better damn well have Claire return, because there needs to be a female heroine somewhere, considering I doubt we'll ever have Rebecca as a playable character again.

[missvalentine]

Ok so no Claire, Ada, Jill becoming a little bit of a sausage fest now aint it. Oh dear even Capcom are gay.

this is even more reason to hate Jill possibly dieing.

less woman = bad.

Rebecca needs to return.


Already done. REDegeneration is her last RE Chapter.

As leon said, she decided fight evil in a different way, unlike him and Chris. So, no Claire return in a REgame.

And... I think Capcom will make Ada retire after RE6.

From now on, only men as heroes.


what, no, this cant be happening, GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!

and how do you know that degeneration is Claire's last apearance?

[aris13]

Claire will pretty much have to return as a main character in order to help finish Sherry's storyline.

That's actually a pretty good idea but If Sherry appears in RE 5 then Chris will finish her story. That means that Leon will return to finish Ada's storyline right?

[Petronio]

this is even more reason to hate Jill possibly dieing.

less woman = bad.

Rebecca needs to return.




what, no, this cant be happening, GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!!

and how do you know that degeneration is Claire's last apearance?

Its' pretty obvious when you look at the movie.

Deg is ALL focused on leon. He is the hero, he is "badass", he has no expression on his face, he fight the moster etc etc...

Claire is "USELESS", she doesn't fight she doesn't do anything important. She talks and asks for Leon's help. Her presence is just a gift given by capocom to old fans. Nothing more. Even Angela is more important than Claire.
I know.. it's sad. Really Sad. But Leon's words are clear. From now on, the only heroes of RE will be Chris and Leon. Women, like Sheva, can be supporting characters or enemies.

Unless something changes in Capcom's mind.

[missvalentine]

Its' pretty obvious when you look at the movie.

Deg is ALL focused on leon. He is the hero, he is "badass", he has no expression on his face, he fight the moster etc etc...

Claire is "USELESS", she doesn't fight she doesn't do anything important. She talks and asks for Leon's help. Her presence is just a gift given by capocom to old fans. Nothing more. Even Angela is more important than Claire.
I know.. it's sad. Really Sad. But Leon's words are clear. From now on, the only heroes of RE will be Chris and Leon. Women, like Sheva, can be supporting characters or enemies.

Unless something changes in Capcom's mind.


your words bring tears to my eyes.

i haven't seen degeneration yet but im doubting it will be as good now, i was hoping for Claire to be in the spotlight and Leon the little side character.

capcom needs tp put there female characters back in the spotlight, especcialy because they have some of the greatest female characters ever.

also i refuse to see Jill in a supporting characer role, i think id actualy rather her dead than see her character raped and ruined like that, same with Claire.

[Bianca]

That's actually a pretty good idea but If Sherry appears in RE 5 then Chris will finish her story. That means that Leon will return to finish Ada's storyline right?

Well, if Sherry is in RE5 I think it's a reintroduction of her character, not a conclusion. And, yes... when Ada's storyline comes to an end, I would expect Leon to (unfortunately) show up again.

These are just my opinions, of course. Capcom may very well just up and decide never to use either characters again and write them off via some miscellaneous file or something.

[Jill Lover]

Well this is not a topic regarding Claire or DEG...

About all we already know about Jill, all of this left me far confused... I can't wait until March to find out about her plot in the game.

[Itashious_boy]

O_O!!!

So Chris knows that Jill is dead? I don't like this at all!... Can anyone make out what does the grave say?

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6361/jillsum6.jpg

I'm in shock!

that picture looks kinda fake to me, it looks like it was photoshoped.... like it doesnt look like updated game graphics to me, like i said it looks fake i think someone made that to piss someone off...

[Scott Green]

Haha good work with jill's tombstone capcom...

now everyone is anxious to know about Jill's real fate, wether if they hope she is still alive or they just wanna know how she died...

I have to say, capcom has quite a bit of a selling strategy there...

and if they really should kill her off then that's actually a change of things in the RE franchise, killing of a really important character, makes me hope for a good plot in RE5, because for one Chris would be emotionally down cause of Jill's death... gives me hope for a plot that would go deeper under my skin than RE4's...

[P Anderson DIE]

Ok so in 65 mins of cutscenes they gotta explain why Chris is in Africa whats going on, why Sherry, Wesker, Excela, Spencer, Birdlady, Ivan and more are there and what happens to them oh and if they got 2 mins cram in a scene where Jill dies. Thats pathetic its all so rushed I dont think there is any need for this Jill nonsense its just a way to get more hype and if they kill her off in a 50 second cutscene then the disc is going against my wall. Think we deserve a little more than that, I love how crappy some franchises treat thier fans. If shes dead I hope Resi dies March 13th because it will be to me.

[Mr. Spencer]

What are you expecting? MGS-esque cutscenes? I'd rather play a game than sit through hours of cutscene. In my opinion, 65 minutes is enough. It can tell the story without rambling on in pretentious, self-important hyperbole.

[Neptune]

indeed it will be nice if the actual gameplay dictates some of the storyline as well, but i doubt that.

65mins is quite a bit, most cutscenes in resi arent long, but they do add up i guess. We may have 2 have a wesker report document to fill in the gaps

[P Anderson DIE]

Im not saying 65 minutes isnt enough I think its a good amount of time for cutscenes but with all thats going on in Re5 I dont think it leaves much time to deal with Jill so I think it will be rushed and just put it for no reason.

[Itashious_boy]

well maybe you've over looked it and tried thinking through it too much? remember your not a game designer

~RE Rox my Sox~

[Henry Spencer]

that picture looks kinda fake to me, it looks like it was photoshoped.... like it doesnt look like updated game graphics to me, like i said it looks fake i think someone made that to piss someone off...


It's not, it's from the latest issue of Famitsu.

Go Nintendo (http://gonintendo.com/?p=66015)
Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5108033/resident-evil-suffers-a-death-in-the-family)

[Zombie Fred]

Im not saying 65 minutes isnt enough I think its a good amount of time for cutscenes but with all thats going on in Re5 I dont think it leaves much time to deal with Jill so I think it will be rushed and just put it for no reason.

It's only cut scenes time, maybe it be longer, who knows, but their be dialogue and interactive cut scenes, so to speak, in the game, ala gears of war. It be fine.

[Petronio]

It's not, it's from the latest issue of Famitsu.

Go Nintendo (http://gonintendo.com/?p=66015)
Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5108033/resident-evil-suffers-a-death-in-the-family)

It's a phoptoshop made by capcom.

[Petronio]

and if they really should kill her off then that's actually a change of things in the RE franchise, killing of a really important character, makes me hope for a good plot in RE5, because for one Chris would be emotionally down cause of Jill's death... gives me hope for a plot that would go deeper under my skin than RE4's...

So.. Chris would be emotionally down for something that happened 2 years before Re5? :lol::lol:

[rehunk88]

Of couse many people if they losses someone close to them they can be emotionel down for years of years so scoot Green im with you if we have a chris walking around with those kind of emotions then that can add a very great and kick ass feeling to this game and it will make it more kinda sad at the same time.

[Sephiroth]

I doint expect Re5 to have like over hours of cut scenes like MGS4 if theres hours of cut scenes there's not much gameplay but the Resident Evil series has never been much on cut scenes more on action and puzzles.

[rehunk88]

iv started to like that there is more cutscenes now in games then back in the days, look at metal gear solid 4 ok i wonna say that all those cut scenes was over the top and so little gameplay of couse i dont want that in re5 but if re 5 got lets see as many as re 4 or a bit more then im all good with it.

anyway jill valentine i simpley dont belive shes dead not if we dont see any flashback or something like that becuse they whould never kill off one of the best characters in resident evil off screen never i dont belive that so i bet shes the birdlady becuse

its either between the 2 big girl chacters its either jill or sherry and i dont belive sherry chould be that badass but again shes grown up now but still if she whould be something, that whould be the same as the birkins mama and papa

but jill i belive she have that in her and i really think it whould fit her been the birdlady i like that idea alot.

[missvalentine]

If shes dead I hope Resi dies March 13th because it will be to me.

i hope so too.


if they do kill Jill of though, at least an hour of those cutscenes better be about her, and how she dies and why, and then make it possible that she could return one day.

[Mr. Spencer]

Am I the only person here who actually wants Jill to be dead?

[aris13]

Well someone has to die, Brad remains the only major character that has been killed off.

[Nomad9026]

Am I the only person here who actually wants Jill to be dead?

I'am with you there. And none of the major re characters died in the series. Brad was a faceless pilot in re1 and "that dude that was faceraped by Nemesis in the first 15 minutes of the game". And a zombie in re2. Someone have to die and I don't care wether it's gona be Jill, Chris, Sheva or Wesker, I just want it to look epic, like something you won't forget, imo re must be a little more serious and tragic.

[Sunglasses]

Since Sven confirmed the Viral Campaign Episodes are approved by Capcom Japan and so they are canon Chris and Sheva will survive, so the question is who is gonna die, Wesker or Jill?
I don't know if someone remember what Kawaya said during the TGS: "With RE5 we'll have the conclusion of one of the stories in the RE universe"
To me one story = one life, Wesker or Jill.

little off
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/3102730756_598428c8f7_o.jpg
Who is that girl? Jill maybe? We'll see some Chris's flashbacks showing Jill in the next episodes? :o

[rehunk88]

if thats jill then damn shes alive :) ( not that i ever doubted she wasent) :) but of couse capcom whouldent kill off a specialy person like her she was there sins the begining jill valentine is capcoms baby girl XD
so thats awsome and those real time videos rocks !!.

[Sunglasses]

if thats jill then damn shes alive :)
Or Jill is really dead and that could be only a flashback... who knows

[rehunk88]

Or Jill is really dead and that could be only a flashback... who knows

hmm thats also true actully but i just dont think capcom whould kill off a character like her well at least not in that way i still belive shes alive and kicking it its like the metal gear solid 4 game the whole deal with big boss and his grave ( well if you played the game you know i wont spoile)

so in the end i dont belive shes actully dead but its kinda either a cover up for her own sake and no one can know about it, and then it chould be she needs to get close to wesker or tricell so shes undercover kinda as the birdlady ??

[Ridley W. Hayes]

Am I the only person here who actually wants Jill to be dead?

+1. If she's dead, the Dev team must make something worth to see, if not, a lot of Jill fans will be happy as hell with that twist. RE was missing a mayor characters death (I'd prefer the-one-who-can't-be-named, but well...)

@ Sunglasses: The suit of Chris looks a lot like the hidden costume of the Saturn ver of RE1 :P.

[P Anderson DIE]

I dont think thats Jill in the photo just doesnt look like her, Although the Chris they used looks nothing like the Chris we all know so maybe they have changed her look for Re5 its next gen graphics too so she is bound to look different.

I really dont see the point in killing a main character off though specially the way they are going about it, they just teasing it and teasing it and it probably wont even happen but either way I would not be suprised to see Jill in Re5 now because I'm expecting to see her, so they have killed off the shock factor. So now whatever happens I'll be expecting it, so how they can expect to shock fans when we have had enough time to think up every possible angle that will happen is beyond me. She either dies, is dead, is evil, or is fine well whoopdey doo I'd rather have just played the game and been suprised than find out like 5 months before the game is even out.

[Helegad]

There seem to be four major characters to RE: Chris, Jill, Claire, Leon. One of them have to die. If all the RE fans had one favourite major character, then chances are that 25&#37; of fans will be disappointed.

[Yzak]

I'm not so bad to be like OMG IF JILL'S DEAD I HATE THIS SERIES 4EVA, since a series that's not realistic in that aspect isn't very interesting. Part of good series to me is getting characters in the first place that you get attached enough to to be like D: if they die later on. I'm either way with Jill. I don't hope one or the other, but whichever it actually is, I just hope it's interesting and good to her character. IE if she's alive, I want to know why everybody assumed she was dead with good reason, not just something like "o i faked my death for this reason I could have not pretended to be dead for but still accomplished otherwise" And if she's dead, I want to know how it happened and for it to not to be a cheap feel sort of death. So either is cool to me, as long as it's interesting.

[missvalentine]

i don't think that's Jill in that pic, looks way to different to be Jill.

and are those video's of Chris and Sheva set after the game?

[Nomad9026]

^And you do think that Chris looks like himself, if we are talking about Viral Chronicles we must forget about any similarities in actors appearance with game characters.

[missvalentine]

^ that's why i was asking are they set before or after RE5?

i assumed that it was just after the RC incident or something cause he looked normal.

[Nomad9026]

It's after RE5. Chris was a giant in re1 either, he was slightly "shrinked" in CV and Remake, imo that was a bad move.

[missvalentine]

i know he was on roids back in '98 as well, XD

but WTF!!! after, why the hell would capcom do that? it's like watching the end of a horror movie to see who dies or not so you don't get as scared, which is stupid.

there is no point to getting RE5 now, except for Jill, so i bet RE5 will revolve around what happened to Jill, (in fact why not just play as her the whole game then) then Chris and Wesker duke it out for the rest of the game, i don't want to know if Sheva survives or not BEFORE i even played the game.

and why are they even showing us this? what the point of this?

[Nomad9026]

It's Campcom's RE, none of the main characters dies there. Jill will return, most likely like a bidwoman, Wesker will die and sure as hell Sheva won't die in the middle of the game so that Jill could become Chris's partner.

[missvalentine]

i thought maybe she could have died right at the end, i don't want her to die, but still thought it would be possible, and i would be worried that she may die at the end if i like her character when i play, but now i know she lives it won't be the same, **** i hate spoilers!!!

and i don't want Wesker to die, he's to cool of a character, like Jill.

[Nomad9026]

That's just the laws of the genre. But I hope I'am wrong and the game would be like: WTF! I didn't saw that coming!

[missvalentine]

i hope your right, but i still think revealing that Chris and Sheva survive was completely stupid.

cause we now know that Wesker either dies or escapes again, so there is not much point to Chris VS Wesker anymore in RE5, and no fear at the end of the game like is Wesker gonna actually kill Chris, they bloody ruined it for me.

[rehunk88]

true they kinda took that one out with the whole whats going to happend to chris and the wesker fight well now we kinda know chris survivs again ruins some of weskers plans
wesker gets away the same old story.

[missvalentine]

i hope we don't have a repeat of CVX's end scene, where some random plot device prevents them from killing each other, and if Chris wins it will be because of some stupid reason, because really thre is no way Wesker could lose, he could appear behind Chris's back and snap his neck the moment he first see's him.

[aris13]

i still think revealing that Chris and Sheva survive was completely stupid.

That's the only reason why I don't like those videos. OK, we are pretty sure that Chris is going to survive but it's better to leave Sheva's fate unknown until we play the game of course.

[Nomad9026]

Honestly, I wouldn't mind to see Sheva as the only survior. The series is so different now so I don't mind old characters dead, ofcourse their death must be epic, in order to start the whole new chapter in re storie.

[missvalentine]

^^ my point exactly, they have taken so much away from RE5 now, we know WAY to much, all that's left is Jill.

[News Bot]

What if Kijuju isn't the only section of the game?

Makes sense, considering they do get on a plane at one point in the game, and they seem to get on a boat with fellow BSAA members and leave Kijuju while the place explodes.

I just hope those viral videos take place somewhere in the middle.

[missvalentine]

i don't remember ever hearing about a plane or getting on one in RE5, where is this? no wait i don't want spoilers.

but maybe, just maybe those video's are not after RE5.

[Jill Lover]

The game plot looks pretty interesting. I don't see why Capcom would kill Jill yet, but knowing the many possibilities of a plot twist, I'm still sticked to the idea of her being alive after all... but anything can happen, and that's what makes me feel more curious about it.
If she's dead, there must be an epic ending, it will be a kick in my balls and all, but I won't be playing RE anymore if they are to kill one of the major characters of the series. And that stuff of "the series needs a dramatic situation, a death of a main character..." Well, the series needs a lot of things before killing a character... the series needs to be RE first of all.

I bet Jill will be playable in a flashback... but in the end, we will find out that she was killed during a mission, because Chris always says "we are partners" "my last partner was a woman too"... Is like he witnessed how she died and he couldn't bear it.

[missvalentine]

on that capcom site it says "sheva knew"

maybe she knew Jill was alive and didn't tell Chris.


oh i hope she's playable in the main game, or gets RE6 all to herself.

[Jill Lover]

Now we can't discuss about those brand news... not even putting our thoughts in spoilers tags?

[missvalentine]

are we still allowed to PM each other about it?

i hope she doesn't die, id like to see her in another classic style game

[Jill Lover]

lol Yeah, that's not forbidden... yet ^^

[Jill's Boob]

Jill is presumed dead. During his mission, Chris happens upon the files (mentioned in the podcast) leading him to believe she is not dead. Later, it is revealed that Jill is the masked woman. She fights Chris and Sheva ("But now that your partner has arrived, I'll leave you two, to catch up."), but is subdued and has her brainwashing undone. Jill later appears in the ending, doing better, and her & Chris have their requisite reunion/happy ending together. This ties up their stories and we probably won't be seeing them again in the series (as they are "getting too old for this").

Jill is a playable character in the RE5 mini-game.

It's almost cut & dry.

P.S. To anyone that doubted me, back in July, when I said that Jill is the Mystery Woman, based on her jaw outline, I now say "I told you so." ;)

[Jill Lover]

You were right Boob and I knew it :D... but I would DIE to believe your thoughts about this... It's so confusing now...

I think it would be to predictable but that would hurt less than having Jill brainwashed and have Chris forced to kill her...

Well Jill has 2 alternative outfits, so I doubt she will be dead after RE5...

[Jill's Boob]

I don't know if it is two alternative outfits per se, or just two different encounters with her during the course of the game.

But...maybe "Jill 1" = old school Jill in a flashback, and "Jill 2" = leather clad, cloaked, masked Jill?

[Jill Lover]

Have you seen the picture Boob?

[aris13]

Maybe Jill will become the new primary villain of the serieso_o

[Vogue_Dirge]

Jill is presumed dead. During his mission, Chris happens upon the files (mentioned in the podcast) leading him to believe she is not dead. Later, it is revealed that Jill is the masked woman. She fights Chris and Sheva ("But now that your partner has arrived, I'll leave you two, to catch up."), but is subdued and has her brainwashing undone. Jill later appears in the ending, doing better, and her & Chris have their requisite reunion/happy ending together. This ties up their stories and we probably won't be seeing them again in the series (as they are "getting too old for this").

Jill is a playable character in the RE5 mini-game.

It's almost cut & dry.

P.S. To anyone that doubted me, back in July, when I said that Jill is the Mystery Woman, based on her jaw outline, I now say "I told you so." ;)

It would be cool if they let you choose Jill's fate, Kill her or unbrainwash her. Then you could get two endings. The 'gravestone' ending and a 'happy' ending.

[Jill's Boob]

Have you seen the picture Boob?

Thanks for sending me that.


Maybe Jill will become the new primary villain of the serieso_o

Aris...haha...you're going to drive the Jill fanboys crazy with that statement.


It would be cool if they let you choose Jill's fate, Kill her or unbrainwash her. Then you could get two endings. The 'gravestone' ending and a 'happy' ending.

Maybe. But I think there will be only 1 "happy" ending for Chris & Jill. The tombstone, I believe, is a plot device during the initial part of the story. It is dated 2006 for her, ahem, "death."

[Vogue_Dirge]

I want to see the picture!
XD

[Jill's Boob]

It was just a picture of the screen grab (leaked yesterday and since removed from this site) that shows the list of characters in RE5 and their costume variants.

[Jill Lover]

Actually that picture wasn't shown here... it leaked today.

[Jill's Boob]

Oh, my mistake. I thought it was one of the ones shown in that (now closed) thread from yesterday. Shows I didn't look too closely at those other ones, eh?

[Jill Lover]

No prob ;)
Anyway... I'm still waiting for more, I need now pictures of Jill in the game :P

[Jill's Boob]

Well, according to the hacked files, Jill is Wesker's "partner" in the Mercenaries or Versus mini-games. Makes sense for there to be a pair of teammates, since that is the way the game is designed. That pretty much makes Jill the "Mystery Woman" and/or "tube lady." (I've guessed all along that they were one and the same, since they both wear black leather jumpsuits.)

I just keep wondering where Sherry is...she HAS to be the blonde girl in distress on the balcony of that dilapidated building.

[Bianca]

I just keep wondering where Sherry is...she HAS to be the blonde girl in distress on the balcony of that dilapidated building.

My guess is that Sherry isn't in RE5 at all. Which means she really has gone MIA and we'll have to read about her in some random document somewhere, or we'll have to wait another four years for her storyline to be concluded in RE6.

The entire thing depresses me to no end, so I hope I'm terribly, terribly wrong.

[P Anderson DIE]

Didnt they confirm Sherry to be in the game though? Like soon after it was first announced. I hear in the document that there is someone called wife in the list? Maybe thats the blonde girl in the trailer. If shes not in the next trailer then no shes probal not in the game. Speaking of which shouldnt there be another trailer soon? Usually got 1 a month up untill now.

[Vogue_Dirge]

Tubegirl could still be Sherry?

I really dont know what to make of all this information. It's a lot at once. Before we saw Jill Valentine's gravestone I thought that bird woman was for sure Sherry, but now I'm starting to think differently.

[Jill's Boob]

They never confirmed that the returning character was indeed Sherry...just that we'd catch a glimpse in a trailer of a female character from the series that we'd recognize.

This was said prior to the trailer released in the summer of 2007. Then all you saw in the trailer was the close up on the tube girl's eyes.

The unofficial release of a screengrab showing the same girl in the stasis tube, from the waist up, appeared to be a young blonde girl, so everyone speculated it was Sherry, since she is the only real blonde of importance from the series' history. (And the fact that Wesker's Report stated she was "safe in [his] hands." And everyone knew Wesker would be back for part 5.)

Then there is the mysterious blonde in the red dress, shown in the official site on a wallpaper (where a note says "pay attention to her movement"). Then a later trailer released at Leipzig, I believe, shows a close up on this blonde girl, looking disheveled and in terror.

I know people believed Ashley was Sherry, prior to the release of RE4, but this female in distress shown briefly in the RE5 media actually fits Sherry's profile/situation more than a scantily clad blonde in a school girl outfit...

[Bianca]

I know people believed Ashley was Sherry, prior to the release of RE4, but this female in distress shown briefly in the RE5 media actually fits Sherry's profile/situation more than a scantily clad blonde in a school girl outfit...

Agreed. Plus, she has blue eyes (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/xdeadpan/123456.jpg). Like most people I, too, originally thought Ashley was Sherry, but as soon as the renders were released, showcasing Ashley's brownish/hazel eyes, it was a dead giveaway that she wasn't Sherry.

However, this blonde girl... she could very well just be a one-time character, but wouldn't she at least have a name, no matter how small a role she may have? Either Capcom reeeeeeeally doesn't want anyone to know this girl's involvement in the story, or she's just that unimportant to the game.

[Jill's Boob]

^Has to be Sherry. Has to be.

Though the "wife" character - whose wife, exactly?

[Bianca]

I was sort of thinking Irving's wife, just because it made the most sense.

But, I'll totally go on board with you continuing to think it's Sherry. Just for the sake of my sanity. I mean, how long can they possibly hold off finishing her storyline?

[Archelon]

If the 10th Anniversary version of Wesker's Report is any indication, they've already "finished" Sherry's storyline. They apparently removed the part about Sherry being in Wesker's hands entirely. When I learned that, my hopes of seeing Sherry in RE5 fell to practically zero. I'm still holding out hope that it was simply a mistake, but I'm not so sure now.

The thing is, the woman in the tube is very clearly blonde. I suppose the argument could be made that the hair color was distorted because of the fluid, but it doesn't make sense for it to make brown hair lighter to the point of appearing blonde. You should still be able to tell that it's brown hair, even with the color distortion.

[Jill's Boob]

I mean, how long can they possibly hold off finishing her storyline?

I don't know how long it could take them...but then again, it did take them 12 years to give Chris any sort of "story."

As for Irving, I wonder what kind of role he plays? Is it possible Sherry has been held by Excella (for Wesker), and Irving fell in love? Or maybe the blonde is just a random girl that happens to be Irving's wife?

So many questions, and no real answers for a few more months...

I hope Sherry's story is resolved in this game, for your sake and mine. :) If this could possibly be Wesker's last game, surely Sherry (in his clutches) would also have to have her story completed. You'd think, right?

But if Archelon is spot on about the Sherry situation having already been resolved, then...

[Bertha]

I almost wouldn't want Sherry to be in Wesker's hands. It would most likely bring Claire back into that games, which would be nice...but doing that would also bring Chris back, and we'd get the same, continued cycle of Claire playing a bit part while the Chris/Wesker rivalry picks up again.

[rewak]

I like Jill, i always played as her in the original RE, i didn't like Chris, still don't like Chris.

[rehunk88]

i bet we are gonna be fighting with wesker at that volcano then jill comes and save our ass and kicks wesker ass down there ( after a long and kick kick ass fight) :D
the end of wesker !!!(roll text)....... he he he nice fighting jill..... Chris...!!!! catch u later
(wesker gets up and walks away!!.

[Ivory]

If Jill would be a boss...it couldn't be! I expect Jill as the main character in RE6.>_<

[rehunk88]

If Jill would be a boss...it couldn't be! I expect Jill as the main character in RE6.>_<

just becuse she whould be a boss that dosent mean we will kill her ;)

[Ivory]

just becuse she whould be a boss that dosent mean we will kill her ;)

So RE5 would be the only game in the series that you don't want to beat, eh? :lol: Maybe she'd be the final boss.

[rehunk88]

im just saying that becuse chris is so close to her i dont belive he whould kill her i think jill will survive no matter if shes the boss or not

think about it if chris has been walking around all sad thinking jill is dead and he meets her again there is no way in hell his gonna kill her !!

[missvalentine]

i agree, i don't think i OR Chris could kill Jill, i think that Jill is Birdlady, then my theory is that, you defeat her in gameplay, then goes to a cutscene and Jill escapes or Chris injects her with an antidote to whatever virus she has or some plot device happens and she doesn't die.

i hope that happens anyway, and i hope im not breaking any rules again by accident.

[P Anderson DIE]

The Jill fight isnt the last boss and I think if she was to die for good then it would be the last boss. So clearly she either escapes or Chris helps her. If they kill her off half way through the game whats the point in playing the rest?

[missvalentine]

there is no point, and the disk while be snapped in half, that's what, XD

but if you do fight Jill, it would probably be at the end for sure

[rehunk88]

i dont belive in that becuse if chris have been walking around for that long thinking shes dead and boom there she is hell no chris aint killing her

[missvalentine]

more likey Chris will run up and give her a hug or even a kiss, he'd be overjoyed to find her still alive.

there is no way he's gonne kill her that's for sure, otherwise he'd have mental scarring for the rest of his life or something like that.

[rehunk88]

more likey Chris will run up and give her a hug or even a kiss, he'd be overjoyed to find her still alive.

there is no way he's gonne kill her that's for sure, otherwise he'd have mental scarring for the rest of his life or something like that.


hmmm maby thats why his acting strange in that live video ?? XD i sure hope he dident kill jill i chould never see chris do that jesus.

[missvalentine]

oh crap you reminded me of that video, maybe he did kill her, AAHAHHH must think up of new theory.