RE5 Screens, Info Leaked

[Petronio]

Resident Evil not just chainged it evolved from survival horor to survival action, and now this "normal" man/woman who was in the wrong place in the wrong time became a trained fighters that strugle against biohazard threats in order for Racoon City horor to never happened again. So everything is logic.
P.S. There are still plenty of scary moments in chainged RE4 when you play it in the first time.

Do you think it's a normal evolution? From survival to action?

In RE1 Chris and Jill were well trained agents, not prepared for the nightmare of Spencer's mansion (remeber Rebecca's words in the bravo's chopper). In reuc, chapter Russia, jill and Chris were well trained agents too. But Chris and leon in RE4/5 seem more than well trained agents.

Chris in RE1 didn't touch zombies, in RE5 he punches his opponents...

[Sunglasses]

Well I don't agree with that. Resident Evil 1 had you take the role of a trained STARS member, people who knew how to handle themselves. I thought Resident Evil 1 is very easy, much more so than Resident Evil 4. In Resident Evil 1 your only enemy is lack of foresight. Wasting ammo, not knowing how to properly combine herbs, enemy attacks. Once you figure that out, its smooth sailing. Resident Evil 4 adds a batch of unpredictability to the game. Enemies are much more dangerous. One axe throw and it could lead you getting juggled by Ganado's.

If you are talking about RE4 without merchant, I agree, but standard RE4 hard diff is too easy, you have a lot ot powerfull weapons! I really hope you are joking saying RE1 is easyer than RE4!
Yes in RE4 enemies are much more dangerous but also weapons are much more powerfull!

[Darkmoon]

I think that's the main reason RE4 disapointed me and RE5 looks set to do the same. We know it's perfectly possible to make a game that has the far superior RE4 control system with the horror of the older games. It would be so very easy to do it as well. Sure, have plenty of enemies...but space it out. And have some puzzles beyond, 'Hunt the key,'. RE4 was easiest the dumbest RE game.

The suggestion that Re5 will be less linear is a good start, but they need to cut down on cannon fodder enemies and have something that makes you afraid. Granado's weren't scary, even though they were as tough as zombies and smarter. Zombies were scary. The idea that even in death your body could be reanimated into a monster that would turn on your loved ones is much scarier than a bug in the brain.

If they given it some good puzzles, made the scenes where you fight off huge numbers of enemies into something unusual rather than the norm and make these new enemies more terrifying than Granados then it could still work out. But, let's face it, that ain't happening. It's Granado's Mk II with as much violence and as little thinking as they can cram in, from everything we've seen.

If I want scary I'd play an old game, or Siren, or Silent Hill. If I want action I'll play BioShock. I don't see the point in turning RE into another action game in a geeneration of games flooded by action games, while cutting down both the fear and the puzzles, then sodding the story over.

I'm not so bothered by the online mode, though. If you don't like it...don't play it. I won't.

[Nomad9026]

Resident Evil not just chainged it evolved from survival horor to survival action, and now this "normal" man/woman who was in the wrong place in the wrong time became a trained fighters that strugle against biohazard threats in order for Racoon City horor to never happened again. So everything is logic.
P.S. There are still plenty of scary moments in chainged RE4 when you play it in the first time.

Originally Posted by Dot50Cal
One thing I really hope they do in Resident Evil 5 is add a monster like Nemesis. Something that will stalk you throughout the game (Steve?). With the power that new consoles afford, I'd hazard a guess that they could make these encounters randomized. It would be much more terrifying on subsequent playthroughs.

THAT would be Great! I miss Nemesis a lot.

[Dot50Cal]

In past REs you were a "normal" man/woman who was in the wrong place in the wrong time. Now you are a supermacho that can beat nemesis with a single kick....

Well I don't agree with that. Resident Evil 1 had you take the role of a trained STARS member, people who knew how to handle themselves. I thought Resident Evil 1 is very easy, much more so than Resident Evil 4. In Resident Evil 1 your only enemy is lack of foresight. Wasting ammo, not knowing how to properly combine herbs, enemy attacks. Once you figure that out, its smooth sailing. Resident Evil 4 adds a batch of unpredictability to the game. Enemies are much more dangerous. One axe throw and it could lead you getting juggled by Ganado's.

One thing I really hope they do in Resident Evil 5 is add a monster like Nemesis. Something that will stalk you throughout the game (Steve?). With the power that new consoles afford, I'd hazard a guess that they could make these encounters randomized. It would be much more terrifying on subsequent playthroughs.

Personally I'm fine with RE5 being what it is, my interest in the series in general has been lost and that generally is due to the lack of cohesiveness in the story than anything else.

If I want something closer to old school gameplay "reinvented" for the modern age then potentially something like the new Alone In The Dark might be more suitable.

I sort of agree. I keep hoping that Spencer will somehow be brought into the series again so we can at least have full closure on the Umbrella of old, but that doesn't seem to be happening. Its a shame, RE0 hinted that he'd take a more central role and now that we know what happened to Ashford and Marcus it just seems silly not to "do-away" with Spencer as well.

I guess I'm just surprised at how old-timers in the community seem to be calling it quits. It sorta makes me feel out of place, Like I should be joining you guys or something. The only thing I can think is that some of you guys don't like action-type games. Certainly, I dislike some aspects of the new direction but I'm not going to quit playing the series or anything.

[Petronio]

I can't speak for anyone in particular Dot, I enjoyed RE4 as well and can't agree more with your comments on the changes to the series, but I can also see the flipside that potentially there are people here who like the series as a series but aren't big "action" game fans or have a different view of what an action game is compared to what RE4 even was. And in that way they are missing the clostrophobic areas and scares which RE4 was mostly lacking.

Personally I'm fine with RE5 being what it is, my interest in the series in general has been lost and that generally is due to the lack of cohesiveness in the story than anything else.

If I want something closer to old school gameplay "reinvented" for the modern age then potentially something like the new Alone In The Dark might be more suitable.

I love action games, very much. but i love also survival horrors.

There are a lot of action games, why change a SH to another action games? Create a new title. So both the old fians of Re and tghe people who love action are satisfied.

[rewak]

The 2 main reasons i'm not liking is this:

1.It just seems to be a step-for-step rehash of RE4
2.RE4 grew old on me very fast thanks largely to the repetitive action based gameplay, and i didn't once jump or get tense, it was just bland same old stuff over and over (big group of enemies, kill, bit of story, repeat, with the occasional "puzzle" thrown in). I played through it once, did Ada's mission, did the Mercenaries, and never bothered with it again. The only time i played it again was on the PS2 at a mates, and on the PC when it came out.

On the RE4 bonus DVD, that cancelled version of the game, it showed you could get the action style game play and the horror in one, it was perfect. So why only go for action when the series is a horror series?

[Petronio]

Resident Evil 4 had some nice horror though. Regenerators? It felt like classic Resident Evil in that section. Being hunted by U3? Felt pretty scary to me..

Regenerators were the only creatures that are RE like...


Do you think that a players of 2002 that goes in the future and sees RE4/5 will recognise the saga? I don't think so...

We are waiting for Mario to go to liberty city...

[Rombie]

I can't speak for anyone in particular Dot, I enjoyed RE4 as well and can't agree more with your comments on the changes to the series, but I can also see the flipside that potentially there are people here who like the series as a series but aren't big "action" game fans or have a different view of what an action game is compared to what RE4 even was. And in that way they are missing the clostrophobic areas and scares which RE4 was mostly lacking.

Personally I'm fine with RE5 being what it is, my interest in the series in general has been lost and that generally is due to the lack of cohesiveness in the story than anything else.

If I want something closer to old school gameplay "reinvented" for the modern age then potentially something like the new Alone In The Dark might be more suitable.

[Petronio]

I really don't get the hate for the game. Being a massive fan its a real mystery to me. Maybe some of you guys can explain your reasoning? We've had nearly 10 years of classic Resident Evil games. I can't blame Capcom for mixing things up and hitting it big with Resident Evil 4.

What kind of game did you all want to happen in place of RE4/5?

Edit: I don't want to come off as thinking this news is good. I certainly don't like some things from it (AI Co-op, same scenario as RE4 basically), but to say you are done with the series? Isn't that being a bit too presumptuous?

We don't hate the game. We hate some choices. For example the co-op in main story, the lack of fear, the great amount of bullets, lack of strategy (RE4 is very easy on hard mode, RERebirth vas very difficult), the use of kicks and punches (while the use of the 2ndary weapon of RERemake was great).

In past REs you were a "normal" man/woman who was in the wrong place in the wrong time. Now you are a supermacho that can beat nemesis with a single kick....

[Dot50Cal]

Resident Evil 4 had some nice horror though. Regenerators? It felt like classic Resident Evil in that section. Being hunted by U3? Felt pretty scary to me..

[Sunglasses]

So, I'm not saying that I hate the gameplay, a game can be survival horror also with the new gameplay, maybe Capcom should look again Alone In The Dark... AITD5 has a similar gameplay but I see a survival horror... Why?

[Nomad9026]

eh.... I have the same fear, but another time I refuse to believe that Capcom is so stupid. But if it will become true... god damn you capcom!

Well, lots of fans refused to belive that resident evil 4 will be as it is now. So everything is possible. The more I think about this new gameplay changes the more I start to belive they are actually can be true. Maybe this article doesn't lie...
I like RE4 very much. And I like the way RE5 looks for now too. It is stupid to say that you dont like the game before you actually played it. So lets wait for release or trailer.

[Dot50Cal]

I really don't get the hate for the game. Being a massive fan its a real mystery to me. Maybe some of you guys can explain your reasoning? We've had nearly 10 years of classic Resident Evil games. I can't blame Capcom for mixing things up and hitting it big with Resident Evil 4.

What kind of game did you all want to happen in place of RE4/5?

Edit: I don't want to come off as thinking this news is good. I certainly don't like some things from it (AI Co-op, same scenario as RE4 basically), but to say you are done with the series? Isn't that being a bit too presumptuous?

[The Dude]

Wish someone would just photoshop a RE1 cover and change it to 5, maybe if people stuck those covers on their PS1 Original RE game and imagined REALLY REALLY hard its a sequel, they'd disappear and stop bitching at Capcom for trying something different.