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  • Why Sherry Being "Superhuman" Is Not New

    Since the RE6 topic is a clusterfuck, this deserves its own thread.

    I've seen some people complaining about Sherry's (not yet confirmed) superhuman powers. In the chance that she has them, allow me to lay to rest the concerns that they're suddenly ruining the series, copying Wesker, or copying Alice from the movies (the latter being the most bullshit).

    The G-Virus on the other hand, is different. The purpose of the G-Virus is not to just induce random mutations like the T-Virus does, but to induce mutations that can evolve the subject into a new breed, or a separate stable species. In other words, if two dogs were to be successfully infected with the G-Virus, the resulting G-dogs should be capable of breeding with each other.

    The ultimate goal for Dr. Birkin was to create and breed G-humans, an evolved super-human species, by using the G-Virus. This is the reason this virus would sometimes be referred to as the "God Virus". Unfortunately, the G-Virus never properly stabilized onto Dr. Birkin and the scientist himself was unable to become a G-human.

    Though Wesker later gained super-human abilities, because he went through a different process, he is technically not considered to be a G-human. Theoretically, a true G-human is expected to have equivalent super-human traits while maintaining reproductive capabilities as a species. It is unknown whether Wesker possessed similar reproductive capabilities.
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    For the source of super power of the lead character. RT @NewsBotPU was there a story behind the usage of the G-Virus in ur version of BIO4?
    A powerful virus developed by the genius scientist Dr. William Birkin, who was part of Umbrella.
    After administration, it affects a creature's cells and bestows superior vitality and regeneration ability.
    If infected without spending sufficient time
    , it will become a "G Creature" controlled solely by breeding instinct, and will lose its self-consciousness and intelligence.
    Conclusions: The G-Virus was always intended to create superhumans. Sherry is infected with it. At the moment, the likely reason she has them is similar to Jill's situation in BH5. It is worth noting that the virus was incomplete at the time of BH2. This is noted by Annette in both BH2 and BHDC, and is the reason why William Birkin and Curtis Miller become "G" creatures. The virus fails to stabilize within their bodies due to its incomplete nature. When Sherry was infected, she was given the vaccine against the G-Virus, "DEVIL". However, like Jill, the vaccine did not eradicate the virus. It killed the embryo inside her, but left remnants from the virus in her body. As a result, she became a carrier of both the virus and its antibody, and over the years, the virus most likely adapted to her body. Essentially, Sherry is a "G-Human". Something that has been in the series since 1997.

    The daughter of William Birkin who was the developer of the G-Virus. In "Memory of a Lost City" she is protected by Leon and Claire. Her father became G, and she was pursued because of its family preservation instinct and implanted with an embryo, but she was saved by the vaccine which they obtained in the Umbrella Underground Laboratory. However, the bacteria in Sherry's body was not killed, and she was placed under observation by the United States Government as an important carrier of G. The reason why Leon works as a member the United States secret military agency is because Sherry was taken as a kind of hostage. In addition, subordinate agents of Albert Wesker are also present in the department monitoring Sherry, and she is in a doubly dangerous position.
    "G" creatures breed by implanting embryos into other organisms, this is the name of the G-Virus vaccine developed to suppress the mutation of these embryos. It seems that it was developed in conjunction with the G-Virus by William Birkin, the father of the G-Virus, and his wife Annette Birkin. In the game, in order to save Sherry who was implanted with an embryo and infected, it is obtained in the P-4 level laboratory at the bottom of the Umbrella laboratory in the Raccoon City underground. Although the effect of the vaccine was dramatic and Sherry recovered because little time was wasted, it is said to be ineffective if the infection level of the embryo is not in an early stage. In addition, although it had an effect which stopped the embryo's growth, in reality, the G-Virus was not completely driven out of Sherry's body, and she is protected by the U.S. Government as a carrier of the G-Virus.
    Additional Notes: Before the DMC version of BH4 was scrapped, the G-Virus was meant to be a connecting plot thread. Sherry, Tony (Dante), Spencer, "Paul" (Vergil) and Wesker were all infected with it. Prior to BH5 (when they altered the nature of the Progenitor Virus and introduced the Wesker Project plot thread), Wesker was infected with a mutant strain of the G-Virus which could be injected before death and revive the subject. However, because this was never outright stated in the series, they were able to change it without any visible retcon. By comparison, the regular G-Virus can revive the dead but with varying levels of success (it can also cause independent limbs to mutate). It is the only virus in the series that can revive the dead, and such an experiment was actually originally featured in BHDC. I present to you a "G-Zombie":



    Sherry Birkin having superhuman abilities as a result of her multi-year long adaptation to the G-Virus not only fits into the plot very precisely with zero contradictions, it is also a natural evolution in terms of both gameplay and story, an evolution that was meant to occur within the series much sooner but financial issues in CAPCOM prevented. Sherry was most likely always planned to become superhuman, that was her "importance" to the series (along with her resistance to the G-Virus). It is very likely that they had intended for her, Dante and Wesker to be the ones to end the series. Once Dante was taken out of the series, it likely would have been her and Wesker. However, CAPCOM's demand for a top-selling game prevented any of this. With Mr. Sugimura's death in 2005, this also stopped the superhuman plot thread (which he introduced to the series to begin with) from being fully realized, and the current writers took the series in a slightly different direction, although superhumans were still extremely important to the series (the only reason Wesker is involved in BH4 is because the dominant species Plagas grant superhuman abilities), and now they are finally getting back on track with BH6, although in a different direction.
    Last edited by News Bot; 05-24-2012, 05:06 PM.
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  • #2
    Capcom have had 14 years to do something with this and are only doing it now, the movies influence cannot be simply ignored. The games have already been influenced several times by the movies and Jakes gameplay resembling Alice a fair bit is of no surprise. Sherry is reported to have similar abilities as Jake also.

    The RE series has always been player controlled protagonist humans vs antagonist humans while surviving monsters, some of the antagonists being superpowered. What RE6 is doing with Jake and SHerry is the exact opposite, you now play as the superpowered protagonist fighting bad guys who so far have all been shown to be human, only monsters being thrown in is the same. So yes, Sherry along with Jake are something completely new to the series.

    Aside from Manuela there haven't even been superpowered protagonists in the series, the point was always killing them.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
      Capcom have had 14 years to do something with this and are only doing it now, the movies influence cannot be simply ignored. The games have already been influenced several times by the movies and Jakes gameplay resembling Alice a fair bit is of no surprise. Sherry is reported to have similar abilities as Jake also.

      The RE series has always been player controlled protagonist humans vs antagonist humans while surviving monsters, some of the antagonists being superpowered. What RE6 is doing with Jake and SHerry is the exact opposite, you now play as the superpowered protagonist fighting bad guys who so far have all been shown to be human, only monsters being thrown in is the same. So yes, Sherry along with Jake are something completely new to the series.

      Aside from Manuela there haven't even been superpowered protagonists in the series, the point was always killing them.
      The movies influence can be ignored because the superhuman aspect in the movies came directly from Alexia and Wesker, not the other way around. This is a well-known fact. And superhumans were planned years before that, and were included throughout the series. The loose connection is just exploited by people looking for something to bitch about.

      And please read.

      Conclusions: The G-Virus was always intended to create superhumans. Sherry is infected with it. At the moment, the likely reason she has them is similar to Jill's situation in BH5. It is worth noting that the virus was incomplete at the time of BH2. This is noted by Annette in both BH2 and BHDC, and is the reason why William Birkin and Curtis Miller become "G" creatures. The virus fails to stabilize within their bodies due to its incomplete nature. When Sherry was infected, she was given the vaccine against the G-Virus, "DEVIL". However, like Jill, the vaccine did not eradicate the virus. It killed the embryo inside her, but left remnants from the virus in her body. As a result, she became a carrier of both the virus and its antibody, and over the years, the virus most likely adapted to her body. Essentially, Sherry is a "G-Human". Something that has been in the series since 1997.
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      • #4
        Oh so there were superpowered protagonists before the RE movies were ever made? No, there was not. It is something taken from the movies.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
          Oh so there were superpowered protagonists before the RE movies were ever made? No, there was not. It is something taken from the movies.
          BH4 was in development in 1999. Superhuman protagonist/entire cast. Sorry.
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          • #6
            Except it never saw light of day until the movies made it popular. Capcom dropped the idea until then.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
              Except it never saw light of day until the movies made it popular. Capcom dropped the idea until then.
              Hmm.

              The loose connection is just exploited by people looking for something to bitch about.
              Once more:

              The G-Virus was always intended to create superhumans. Sherry is infected with it.
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              • #8
                The only loose connection is you reaching into cancelled games that ended up as an entirely different Capcom series 10 years ago to suggest the RE movies are not the influence.


                ...and this is pretty simple: How many games have we had in the RE series where you play as a superpowered protagonist? If the answer is zero, then Sherry and Jake are something new.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
                  The only loose connection is you reaching into cancelled games that ended up as an entirely different Capcom series 10 years ago to suggest the RE movies are not the influence.

                  ...and this is pretty simple: How many games have we had in the RE series where you play as a superpowered protagonist? If the answer is zero, then Sherry and Jake are something new.
                  Once more.

                  The G-Virus was always intended to create superhumans. Sherry is infected with it.
                  Nothing about this ever changed in the series.

                  Just because the actual appearance of a superhuman protagonist was off-set due to outside circumstances does not mean that, suddenly, it was "re-inspired" by the appearance of the movies which were themselves inspired directly by the games. They're not an influence, because last I checked, they did not exist in 1997, let alone 1999. The games did it first, whether they were released or not, and it was always a significant plot thread. Sherry was always going to end up superhuman because that is the nature of the virus she was infected with and the series at the time was planning a heavy focus on superhumans (CODE:Veronica was written alongside BH4, the G-Virus being the link between BH2, BHCV and BH4). Ignoring this and going "nah movies!" won't change anything.

                  You are using coincidental logic to justify a very convenient personal opinion. Your logic is the same as people who claim that Sheva was added to BH5 because one black lady complained about apparent racism on a blog. Despite Sheva being in the game long before this event (from the concept stage, even). Their prior existence isn't invalidated by an event that happens prior to the full reveal. Like those people, you also fail to provide a scrap of evidence other than speculation, but this is nothing new in general.
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                  • #10
                    But the RE movies are not the influence. All Capcom have included from them over the years is one or two set pieces from the films just to appeal to casual fans who watch the films but don't necessarily play the games, there's really nothing more to it than that. Capcom have even said Alice will never be featured in one of the games, much to Jovovich's disgust but let's face it it's not hard to see why, is it?

                    Sherry and Jake are clearly not based on Alice or any kind of influence from the movies. If Capcom really liked Anderson and his work, Alice or at least some variant of her would have been included by now. And really, until we see footage of what kind of abilities they actually have, the debate is pointless.

                    The important thing to discuss here is the G-Virus and what the true potential of it was. Since we are victims of poor localization this plot element is only just becoming known to us, some 14 years after Bio2 was released and it is important because of its ties into Bio6. People whining about Jake and Sherry would not be doing so if we had known about this earlier.
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                    • #11
                      Wasn't creating Super Humans always a goal for Umbrella? I mean when has a company never wanted to create super soldiers? it goes without saying really.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shanemurphy View Post
                        Wasn't creating Super Humans always a goal for Umbrella? I mean when has a company never wanted to create super soldiers? it goes without saying really.
                        It was always Dr. Birkin's goal (evolution of the entire human race). Not quite Umbrella's, although it was always Spencer's (evolution of himself/select humans).

                        Incidentally, Birkin being a "good character" in BH1.5 is likely tied to the fact that his goal wasn't evil. This is also why Annette is so upset in BH2. Despite being crazy as fuck, she believes her husband's goal would benefit mankind. He is turned into a less sympathetic character in BH2 and given a more egotistical, childish nature (along with his involvement in B.O.W. development).
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                        • #13
                          If it's a plot hole or not in the storyline, I don't care.
                          But one thing is right, they need to stop transforming every character in RE into the counterpart of some super-hero.

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                          • #14
                            Newsbot did his homework and I support everything it said, in fact I've known this since ever.... but it's strange how I can mention the same concept a couple of weeks ago, then Newsbot comes along and says the same thing only with more words. Are you stealing my words?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by AsteroidBlues View Post
                              Newsbot did his homework and I support everything it said, in fact I've known this since ever.... but it's strange how I can mention the same concept a couple of weeks ago, then Newsbot comes along and says the same thing only with more words. Are you stealing my words?
                              Probably inspired me a bit, but it's a line of thinking I've always went with since Mr. Kawamura revealed the true nature of the G-Virus to us back in February. I looked back over several sources and had Annette's lines in BH2 and BHDC translated to see if it was actually hinted at in the games before, and lo and behold, it was. That just vindicated my belief even more.

                              As an aside, it would have been pretty goddamn awesome if the Sherry (protagonist), Dante (Umbrella) and Wesker (rival company) trifecta of superhuman shit ever actually came to fruition. Those complaining about the series not being "Survival Horror" now would have rage-quit long ago.
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