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    3 days ago i watched last SAW. Creators thought it out really good. From one side i can see lots of blood/traps and from first moment i think - this is just commercial machine, they
    show tons of meat and blood for teens and they don't care much about series but later i undertood how much i was wrong. SAW are really interesting series, i remember the first film where all actions took place in a room - its was interesting to watch and creators are genious because it's surely not easy to achieve such effect.

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    I think both SAW and Final Destination have interesting, creative deaths.. That gym death in Final Destination 5 - ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    There's a big difference between mollycoddling and showing something nasty or unpleasant. The example I used when I was talking to Alexia last night was drama involving child abuse. Do you see that shit? No, and no one in there right mind wants to. And yet the dramas are often done fairly well, and help show the hideous fallout that kinda shit can have on someone's life.

    It's the same for something like rape. You don't need an explicit shot to see it happened, you don't need to see that stuff to get the message across. Most UK police dramas, for example, don't show rape - they show the aftermath though, and that gets the point across well enough.

    How many times could a scene of sexual abuse (or even plain sex) been cut from a film with no real impact on the story or characters? When that happens, it's not dealing with it right and needs cutting. It's not mollycoddling to be rid of it - such stories do need to be told. But they need to be told right, not as light entertainment.
    Some people need to see more graphic content before they wake up, if a person is raped as a child they often won't tell anyone until they see more graphic content and will continue to ignore it, whilst others will see it's subtly, ART and Entertainment threshold each to their own.
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    ...you can point to a real movie that has a real child being raped on screen? One that gets shown on TV and no one gets arrested for? Because I'm pretty sure that's fairly illegal.

    I've never met anyone who needed to see kiddy porn before deciding that shit is just vile beyond all imagining. I did long before some fucker sent me some of that stuff and confirmed it for me. Equally, no one in my social circle has ever told me, 'Well, I thought rape was cool and all, but The Virgin Spring really changed my mind' since they were pretty much onboard with the whole castration idea.

    I don't get this theory that people need to see this stuff to go, 'Oh, that's bad.' Not unless they've been raised by Conan, anyway. And the actual act, as nasty as it is, isn't the bit that will affect most people. It's the aftermath.

    Take Rob Roy, for those of you who watch Scottish Historical Drama that only has some basis in reality. There's a scene where the evil English lord rapes the main characters wife. What you see is him making her bend over and her looking uncomfortable. He makes some nasty comment about her being a perfect sheath for his sword and that'll he'll think fondly of this - she replies she'll think of him as dead until her husband catches up, then she'll think of him no more.

    When he leaves though? She flees her home, runs into a lake and desperately tries to wash his presence, touch and other things off and out of herself, sobbing and wailing. And there are various other scenes in the movie, especially when she finds out she's pregnant and it's most likely the rapists.

    Which part do you think has the most impact on the audience? The short, non-nude rape scene with one smug ass and a woman desperately putting a brave face on it, or the much longer aftermath? Because that's a unpleasant truth of this stuff. It can all be over in minutes, but it'll scar the victim for life.

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    When did I say to watch snuff? ART is fiction
    thriller not horror

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scream View Post
    I think both SAW and Final Destination have interesting, creative deaths.. That gym death in Final Destination 5 - ouch!
    What are your favourite deathscenes in all films you ever watched?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevstah2004 View Post
    When did I say to watch snuff? ART is fiction
    thriller not horror
    ...I didn't mention snuff. Not in that post. I did mention it to Alexia during an IM, and I think it was mentioned a couple of days ago. I have no idea why you've randomly decided to talk about it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    ...you can point to a real movie that has a real child being raped on screen? One that gets shown on TV and no one gets arrested for? Because I'm pretty sure that's fairly illegal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    ...I didn't mention snuff. Not in that post. I did mention it to Alexia during an IM, and I think it was mentioned a couple of days ago. I have no idea why you've randomly decided to talk about it now.
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    That's not snuff, is it?. Snuff is someone being killed, a real person being really killed, mostly for some sick fucks amusement. 'Snuffed out' in other words.

    At least, that's always been my understanding of the phrase. Oddly, I don't hunt around for there definitions. The above would be 'kiddy porn' although I meant someone pretending to rape a child in a drama, rather than someone actually doing it. Because, well, even pretend sex with a kid would be disturbing, creepy and likely illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    ...I didn't mention snuff. Not in that post. I did mention it to Alexia during an IM, and I think it was mentioned a couple of days ago. I have no idea why you've randomly decided to talk about it now.
    Probably cos I mentioned snuff in a post after that, saying I didn't know it existed and is gross. I'd seen some questionable pictures on 4chan, but always dismissed it as "Nah, surely they wouldn't get away with posting REAL dead people on the internet, and would get arrested".
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    Anyone looking for snuff films won't find them coming from Hollywood. As bad as Hollywood is in the minds of 99.9% of evangelicals, they aren't THAT bad/evil.

    Most of the ones I've know about come from Argentina... the real ones, anyway. From back in the days when said country had some sort of dictator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    That's not snuff, is it?. Snuff is someone being killed, a real person being really killed, mostly for some sick fucks amusement. 'Snuffed out' in other words.

    At least, that's always been my understanding of the phrase. Oddly, I don't hunt around for there definitions. The above would be 'kiddy porn' although I meant someone pretending to rape a child in a drama, rather than someone actually doing it. Because, well, even pretend sex with a kid would be disturbing, creepy and likely illegal.
    Amen.

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    recently saw a bunch of the Friday he 13th movies from part 2 to part 6 and the remake of 1. Interesting to note is that a character from Transformers appears in it, Trent DeMarco. Apparently he went to collage after the end of the first transformers movie, then met that girl Jenna who was so fucking close to escaping with Clay, and his sister from Jason, they started fucking, going out etc , but in the end he is killed by Jason. Trent is the guy that was dating Makalea. This still boggles my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANDYARKLAY View Post
    What are your favourite deathscenes in all films you ever watched?
    Either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3trul...eature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBzi4...eature=related

    Same movie - both awesome..

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    High Tension.

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    on the east coast had no power so I hooked up a generator and watched Big Trouble in Little China. awesome movie! my favorite line is when old lo pan says "this kind of stuff really pisses me off to no end" definitely worth watching.

    also not that I condone snuff but there is a movie called 8mm its really good and its about it, its fictional but there is shit like that out there like Faces of Death saw it when I was a teenager on vhs it was some fucked up shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scream View Post
    Friday the 13th Part 6: Jason Lives - I only had vague memories of this movie before, but its fuckin' hilarious.. what the hell is with that James Bond introduction section at the start haha - speaking of which, that eyeball scene is surely the inspiration for the RE1 eye blood scene before you start/load a game.
    I love that film
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    jackie chan police story

    10/10

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    Went to the cinema this evening with some mates to watch Apollo 18 and was pleasantly surprised by it, right from the start I loved the premise of the film anyway, A horrror film on the moon? how awesome and idea is that!


    Anyway I would definitely recommend this film!

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