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    I don't see why people are complaining about the abundance of Alice.

    You are aware she's the main character, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue_Dirge View Post
    I don't see why people are complaining about the abundance of Alice.

    You are aware she's the main character, right?

    No gripes about the amount of Alice in the movies to be honest. Though it'll be more of an OVER abundance of Alice w/ all her clones and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue_Dirge View Post
    I don't see why people are complaining about the abundance of Alice.

    You are aware she's the main character, right?
    Main character =/= Mary Sue.

    Seriously, Alice is so unlikeable because she's so damn perfect. Nobody can do shit without her saving them. I think that's why I hate Apocalypse the most. They got us all hyped over Jill, the actress actually STUDIED the game, Jill's movements, etc, but nope. She doesn't do a damn thing, it's upto super-powered mega Alice to save the day.

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    People are gonna watch that? Seriously?

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    Yeah, I know right? People have different opinions? Seriously?

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    Good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno04 View Post
    Main character =/= Mary Sue.

    Seriously, Alice is so unlikeable because she's so damn perfect. Nobody can do shit without her saving them. I think that's why I hate Apocalypse the most. They got us all hyped over Jill, the actress actually STUDIED the game, Jill's movements, etc, but nope. She doesn't do a damn thing, it's upto super-powered mega Alice to save the day.
    Well, Albert Wesker in the games is a Gary Stu. So I don't understand why so many people complain about Alice xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue_Dirge View Post
    I don't see why people are complaining about the abundance of Alice.

    You are aware she's the main character, right?

    I'm just disappointed by this trailer, because the focus of Alice is so much that we didn't even get to see Chris Redfield (the 3rd main character of the movie) in the trailer properly at all. Not even a quick frontal 1 sec glimpse.

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    I might as well jump on the 'Not Impressed' bandwagon here. Rant on.

    Once the image of the Executioner came out, I guess I wasn't surprised to see that, the split-jaw majini style enemy, and the Wesker stuff... but I can only concur on what will probably be a messy push at making Wesker such a big enemy in this film as presumably the head of Umbrella (I forget if this was specifically stated in the last film, but I assume by this point it's the case). Also in that footage the Executioner hitting the post just seems weak sauce, much like Nemesis was in most of the second film.

    Personally I guess the interesting facet for me is the fact that Anderson originally deviated so heavily away from the original games when we were still following that path in 2000/2001 that he missed making the background of the character. Sadly too, while the second film showed a well more personal attempt at adding characters and background to Umbrella's attempts, I kinda feel most of it was a plot of convenience for purely moving action forward. And so Umbrella still stayed operated by a mysterious figurehead with no connections at all to the "bad guys" we followed who filled out most of the 2nd and 3rd films.

    I also will smack my hand into my face if now that they've added Chris in that they actually end up still connecting him to the STARS in Raccoon and Jill. It seems a little contrived to show that Claire, who ended up being a random leader of a bunch of survivors in the last, actually had a direct connection into the original events because her brother was a team member of Jill's. Fan's will get the connection, anyone else will feel it's too contrived.

    On that point to, it goes back to missed points of contact. Anyone who read Romero's script knows he made Chris a non-STARS member in that, and it caused a fuss at the time. Interesting to see what happens now should that not be the case again. Yes, he won't be part-native American or anything, but still. So you have 2 characters, that as far as the video games go, were the equivalent to the good/evil concept, who had stories fleshed out over several games, and now both need better explanations, backgrounds, and motivations/motivators in this. Additionally I guess if they make it a huge rivalry thing I'll be disappointed, yet giving Anderson's general character development in the past 3, entirely unsurprised.

    The majority of the trailer also suffers from seen it before syndrome. If it's not the end of the isolation which exists so many films, it was the visuals of a Roland Emmerich style modern day apocalypse, or an overused style fighting attack, and it's been 11 years since the Matrix, I'm sure we can do without the slow motion-jumping through windows while shooting wearing all black thing.

    Heck it's even self referencing the stuff it's already done before, and then just throwing in what's been done in the last major game release for good measure - these movies are entirely popcorn entertainment I get that, but it's not like they're even trying with this thing. Isn't the point of a teaser trailer like this supposed to make me interested in something? Do so by showing me something different about this movie from the rest, even if there is only a couple of things... maybe putting one of them in this would have been a good idea. Which leads me to...

    Well... obviously... riding Avatar's coat tails much? I'm sorry, but technical information should never have been put in this trailer. Hell not even just this movie. It should never be put in anything at all like this.

    It would be like making a trailer when you got ILM or Weta to do your effects and going "Amazing Visual Effects from the Legendary team at wherever who worked on this film you loved so much it made 400 million+ worldwide."

    It just makes the movie look cheap, something which - and Anderson isn't lying - it actually wasn't. This movie had a huge budget. But as soon as they start plastering that all over it, it's like they just made the worst film imaginable with the best equipment possible. And I'm saying this from a purely subjective point of that trailer alone... that's not a statement on the whole film, for all I know they might have done some things with the equipment no one has ever seen. But based on what they showed me the really didn't try.

    It's like basically saying in subtext "you loved that movie so much and it made heaps, this will be just as awesome - come see it." You know how that makes people feel? Like idiots. Or cattle. But it's so obvious they might have just been blatant about it you know? "Love shit blowing up, tits on screen, zombies and giant monsters... come see it with the latest 3D technology!"

    You know what would have been a smarter idea to let you audience know you did this, by making a special teaser trailer that is something different but shows off the 3D effects and maybe indeed does/did something no one saw with it before. That teaser trailer for the second film which was an Umbrella product ad is still once of the better teasers ever made for a film because it was different than all the rest. How did they not get this might be something to try and repeat? Not the ad specifically, but making something in 3D for the film which just was so awesomely cool no one would not want to go see the film...
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    Watching this made my face and brain hurt. So much fail in one trailer; I like how Resident Evil 5 is oozing out of this trailer.... grrrr.... anger....

    I'll be there to watch it though like I have for the other three movies so I can laugh, cry and judge. ;_;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue_Dirge View Post
    I don't see why people are complaining about the abundance of Alice.

    You are aware she's the main character, right?
    Yes. But 'Main' doesn't mean that all and everything in the movies needs to revolve around her. Other characters should have there own little plots, there own little scenes, there own character building moments. They don't in the RE movies because the people in charge feel the constant need to show off how super awesome Alice is.

    No other character gets a moment to shine simply because Alice is there. She's super powered, she's infected, Umbrella wants her and her alone. If there are monsters to kill she'll kill it with maybe a little help from someone else.

    Compare how vital Alice is to the plot of the first movie. Now compare her to the how important she is in the second and third. In the first movie, despite a couple of silly moments (ninja Dog fight and zombie death by thighs attack) she was just a mole trying to take Umbrella out. Spence was actually more important to the overall plot, and most of the team members who didn't get sliced by lazy beams (a moment I will forever hate - is it so hard to kill your characters off by zombies in a zombie movie?) get some growth and fun scenes.

    Now compare that to the second. Nemesis' goal? Alice. Importance of the little girl? Same virus as Alice. Umbrella's goals? Destroy all evidence (by letting thousands of people out, none of whom will bother saying, 'Why yes, there were walking corpses) and get back Alice. Way to beat Nemesis? Have him beaten half to death then be awoken by how awesome Alice is.

    And third might as well have the Synopsis as ALICE! Apart from the survivors, who live and die because Alice is there (either saved by the birds or killed by the Bud-lite Zombies) the whole movie is about Alice, and the scientist obsessed with Alice. I must admit, I enjoyed the book a lot more. It had scenes where Jill was trying to do stuff and not thinking about how awesome it would be to have Alice there. And when the book that is based on the movie feels the need to add more plot in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfactor View Post
    I'll be honest, I've never been so disappointed before. Will it really kill him to show more than 3 seconds of zombies in the trailer for a god-damn zombie movie?

    Its almost disgusting how the trailer point out that the movie will have Cameron/Page fusion camera system, almost as if the movie is trying to leech on the success of Cameron/Avatar or something. Why not show the usual insert telling the accomplishment of the director, like how Avatar's trailer insert stating that its from the director of Titanic? I guess maybe even Paul Anderson himself know that his past movies except Resident Evil haven't been well received by many, and that if he tagged his name onto the trailer, it will only bring harm in promoting this movie. Its a shame how he needs to promote his movie by slapping a name of a director who's totally unrelated to the movie creation at all into the trailer. As in having the movie being a tie-in with a popular game series doesn't help.
    Your implying that Anderson directed the trailer for his movie (and Cameron for Avatar) which is 1000% false and stupid.
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    The only good thing about this trailer is that remix of The Outsider by A Perfect Circle. Can't say i've heard that particular remix before and APC are one of my favourite bands. Sounds like something Atticus Ross would do...

    Besides that, shitty trailer for a weak film franchise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vogue_Dirge View Post
    Well, Albert Wesker in the games is a Gary Stu. So I don't understand why so many people complain about Alice xD
    But Albert is a villain, and that's the main difference.

    When a villain is perfect it makes things more tense, more dramatic. Just look at RE5 and the whole Wesker situation - he's superhuman, can dodge bullets, is (almost constantly) in control the whole time and constantly plays with Chris. And now imagine if Wesker was just a normal guy and Chris was this overpowered unstoppable beast. It just wouldn't be the same then, there would be no sense of danger, no sense of "I'm fucked" situations.

    That's the main problem with the movies - Alice is too powerful, nothing can beat her, everyone is saved by her; she's too awesome - right now she is able to kill things with the power of her mind (that is, if the script allows her to do so, because at one moment she can burn a bunch of crows or cause man to bleed just by thinking about it, at another moment she needs weapons to protect herself - and that's only one of many inconsistencies in those movies).
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    After seeing the trailer, i've seen some ripoffs like:
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    if I miss some ripoffs from the trailer please do share

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    Quote Originally Posted by misstvirus View Post
    Watching this made my face and brain hurt. So much fail in one trailer; I like how Resident Evil 5 is oozing out of this trailer.... grrrr.... anger....

    I'll be there to watch it though like I have for the other three movies so I can laugh, cry and judge. ;_;
    Thats sad. You are openly admiting to throwing money away. I know they are fun to take the piss out of but at the end of the day you said just the trailer makes your head hurt. Why would you pay to put yourself through like a hour and a half of that shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ylj619 View Post
    After seeing the trailer, i've seen some ripoffs like:
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    if I miss some ripoffs from the trailer please do share
    It's such an obvious shot that I'm saying it's a ~homage rather than a rip-off. And wasn't it Alice and Claire and not Alice and Alice?

    My thoughts...hurm. I liked the trailer. I mean really, yes. I'm a bit annoyed that they've seemingly retconned the whole dead world thing because there are trees and everything in the trailer. (Not that I'm angry about it, it was a sucky idea in the first place.)

    But yeah, I'm liking the look of it. It will probably be a bad film in general but as long as it has some cool action sequences I won't mind. I'm past the point of raging about how these films are bad and nothing like the games. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy them from now on. It's a much more fun experience.

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    I think many people are forgeting that since the begining these movies weren't "Resident Evil THE GAME MOVIE" but just a movie based on the REsident Evil merchanside. If one can overlook that fact, one probably can juged the movie a little better( just a little); I'm not saying I'm a big fan or anything, but I saw like the two past movies the day they were release, just to see what they came out this time; and of course you have Alice being all badass and everything, like all other movie's main character.

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    All style over substance again.*sigh* Typical Anderson just gives us a fight scene (or so it appears) than giving us a clever sequence of Claire using her wits to fight the Executioner, and instead back flips and charges him - it's ridiculous.

    It looks a little more expensive than the previous movies, but still doesn't look anything deserving of the name, and why is Alice a ninja now throwing shurikens or whatever now and running around with Katana's?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by [STARS]TyranT View Post
    It looks a little more expensive than the previous movies, but still doesn't look anything deserving of the name, and why is Alice a ninja now throwing shurikens or whatever now and running around with Katana's?!

    I have been asking that same damned question... Did they just write shit down on slips of paper and pick at random out of a hat? "Oh, ok, here we are... let's see, AH! NINJA! We have a ninja!"

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