I didn't find it very believable just turning into a bad guy like that.
I didn't find it very believable just turning into a bad guy like that.
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Fantastic Episode indeed, never saw the ending coming.
And i think the Walkers would catch them sooner or later, they where already exausted and injured(Shane at least).
I dunno how I feel about where they're taking Shane. I have the odd feeling he's going to end up in the Governor role at some point, although that would be sliding into raw evil at a truly neck-break speed. His character was pretty sympathetic in the comic...he came across as someone who'd managed to hold people together and keep them safe, but was paralysed at what to do next and as others started looking to Rick for leadership instead (and loosing Lori and Carl back to Rick) he started to become unhinged. In this it seems more like evil for the sake of evil...the pack wasn't close enough yet for that to be remotely justified. He had time to shoot the guy, fight with him to get the pack off, rip out a chunk of hair...
Also not sure I liked the whole Otis thing. Some of it just seems to be saying, 'Yeah, we're different to the comics and we'll prove it by killing off the comic characters! Also, making them fat!' I'm aware, though, that I am heavily biased by my all encompassing man-love of the comic series (and that they skipped out on one of my favourite scenes) and the nigh on perfection that has in showing all the characters changing to fit the new world. And it's not like Otis' death will have a huge impact. It might even make a possible scene later more interesting.
I am really liking Daryl. He's quite a surprising character in a lot of ways, and certainly the most interesting of the non-comic characters (not that there are many left - just him and T-Dog now I think) and is currently more interesting than some of the comic characters, or at least there own screen version. He's also probably the most useful character out of everyone, which is kinda cool.
One thing I would like is to see Andrea start perking up and heading towards badass territory. It keeps giving off this weird feeling that the women can't really do much be but zombie bait and scream a bunch, to the point of not allowing them to carry any serious weapons (which is perfectly understandable given that guns draw in zombies like no one's business, but...) and since she is one of the most dangerous characters eventually, it would be nice to see some more of that. But she picks up her degree in ass kicking at the prison (along with the other lady of awesome, Michone) and I'm not sure we're going to see the prison this series, I'm kinda worried we're going to have too much of a big men with guns, little women wilting violets situation for a bit too long. Neither Lori nor Carol are much of a fighter, although Carol's pickaxe moment back in season one does help a bit.
The show has...elements from the comic. The first episode up to the tank is nigh on scene for scene, but after than things change. The rough flow and events is similar, in that they were at Atlanta, left Atlanta, arrived at Hershel's farm...but there are a lot of characters that are missing (or replaced), they never visit the CDC, Shane doesn't make it out of Atlanta, Carl doesn't need that set of gear when he gets shot, etc.
I like both, don't get me wrong, but so far my vote has got to be with the comic. It's probably the best representation of what that kind of stress will do to the human mind over prolonged periods, and what it will make people do, I've ever read in fiction. Unlike most of these stories where the main characters remain relatively unscathed even during the worst events mentally, the Walking Dead's cast suffers and breaks. Even the major characters. And because of that they feel far, far more real than the band whose mentality is still stuck in how our current society works.
Ah, thanks for that info. Someone had told me that the show is very similar to the comics.. Guess they were full of shit, haha! I'll need to read those comics someday. I've seen a few pages, and I really like the art style.
As for Shane doing what he did, it didn't really bother me. I saw it coming. The show needs a good antagonist aside from the zombies (and Darryl's brother who.. is.. coming back at some point? Bit of a loose end there..) What does bother me is Andrea. She's so whiny and ungrateful to the old guy (Dale?) who saved her life. The fact that he feels he has to apologize to her for saving her life? Oh, please! If Andrea wants to die so badly, than why doesn't she just kill herself? I can't stand suicidal characters, they're such cowards..
There are a lot of similarities, and as I said the first episode is almost scene for scene. And so far, the rough over all story is similar. They never went to the CDC in the comics, but did go to a sorta walled in estate where they thought they would be safe and had a few issues there. Mostly, the show is adding in story - the old people's home wasn't mentioned in the comic, the CDC wasn't there, Shane snuffed it earlier, etc.
Also, my wife has the opposite view of Dale and Andrea - that Dale had no right to make that decision for her, no right to take her gun from her, no right to make choices on how she lived or didn't. As I mentioned, I'm a little disappointed in how she's come across so far. She kicks some major ass in the comic. But most of the woman are coming across a bit too dainty and feminine for me. It makes sense - Daryl's a hunter, Shane and Rick are cops and Dale is...experienced with guns. But they need show the laddies as more independent. Maggie's baseball scene is good, for example.
Every time I see Dale on the Walking Dead, I can't stop thinking of him as Judas from Lady Gaga's music video.
Unlike Resident Evil, Walking Dead is a zombie series that may stray from the source material but is actually just as entertaining.
I'm a Daryl fan as well. Not from the comics as I've heard, but he is one of the most likeable red necks you'll ever get. and as a survivalist the man is BOSS with those arrows.
I'm in the minority it seems that doesn't view Shane as pure evil. I do think this outbreak has gotten the worst of him, but he tries to justify his actions no matter how sleazy. Then again don't most bad people?
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I saw what Shane did more or less coming, during the in-between section I was thinking "Oh boy, I'll bet he's shot Otis in the leg or something"... and boom.
Though I would say that shooting him in the leg is essentially the most logical, as not only would the smell attract them - the sound would too, more-so with him howling in pain, whereas the gunshot would sound and it would attract some for a shorter period of time than a longer sound.
Still, it wasn't exactly needed as the pack really wasn't that close at the time.
Though a possibility with Carol could happen if they were to find Sophia and she's gotten infected could be the last straw for "weak" Carol and we could see some more from her like in the last season perhaps.
Fuck...the series is half over AND we have to wait 8 weeks for the second half of the series.
Didn't expect the episode to end the way it did. Its been a really strong season so far, I think some things have been a little too prolonged and could have been wrapped up a little sooner but overall its been a good watch.
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THAT WAS INTENSE! I'm with Wrathborne, things dragged on a bit but it was well worth it for this. I don't wanna wait until February D=
The thing I love about this show is everybody has a point. I can't pick just one person or logic to side with.
Last edited by Inferno04; 11-28-2011 at 12:31 AM.
That ending made the whole slow pace of the season worthwhile. One of my favourite bits of TV ever.
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