Mass Effect 3

[Pikminister]

Angry mob? Ok...
The "original" endings just ruin what is a huge epic saga. Mass Effect is always been about choices and outcomes, and a 3 color swap at the end doesn't reflect how awesome this series have been, neither bring closure or carry the weight of decisions we made. If endings are changed via DLC they're still optional...
Bioware can deliver. There's no doubt of that. If the revised endings take into account the points I mentioned, even if it's a grim closure, then I don't see the need to "fucking bitch and fucking moan".

This dammit, THIS.

It gets annoying reading about apologists saying that people are complaining only because the endings didn't have rainbows and fucking unicorns all over the damn screen.

[Vector]

My point was that you can never please everybody, and by caving in it seems like that's what BioWare is attempting to do. No matter what they do with this proposed additional content, there are still gonna be people who fucking bitch and fucking moan. And then what?

[Mr. Spencer]

And then the new ending comes out, and people don't like that either so they fucking bitch and they fucking moan. You can't win, BioWare. I wish you wouldn't have caved to the angry mob. Epilogue DLC is one thing, but if they 'change' the ending or add a 'new' one, I think the standard set will be disgusting.

INDOCTRINATED PRESENCE DETECTED

[Vector]

Why, because I'm not crying about the ending every day? Because I don't have a sig DEMANDING we "retake" a fucking game?

[Dracarys]

^Haha (edit: Mr.Spencers post)

I'm fine with the ending as it is, but explanation is needed. I'm really hoping
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The indoctrination sequence (assuming there is one) only started as Anderson died. TIM and Anderson deaths were perfect.

[Mr. Spencer]

I see you can't take a joke. Nice of you to assume that I "cry" about the ending every day. Am I disappointed? Yes. Do I believe in FTC complaints and other extreme actions to get a new ending? No.

Amusingly enough, an edit of my own here. Referring to Vector. I'm trying to be civil with you here.

Second edit: There, removed my signature since it was causing you distress. Better now?

[Beanovsky Durst]

My point was that you can never please everybody, and by caving in it seems like that's what BioWare is attempting to do. No matter what they do with this proposed additional content, there are still gonna be people who fucking bitch and fucking moan. And then what?

Then they should have thought the ending better in the first place. Delay launch, do a test group first. Focus their efforts on SP instead of MP. I don't know. What's done is done. They are trying to save face, if they are listening to feedback then they have nothing to fear.

[Darkmoon]

If enough people have expressed displeasure with a game, then the game should be fixed. People 'bitch and cry' as I understand it about things like multiplayer characters being unbalanced - I believe I mentioned earlier that a Human Vanguard is several levels of magnitude nastier than everyone else - and many companies try to fix those balance issues, if I recall. Even though some people won't be happy with them. Even though others will say things like 'the game is so broken now I can't play it.'

As I've said before, I'm not a big multiplayer fan. Mass Effect is probably the first time in forever that I've done it. But I do read patch notes, and multiplayer fixes often seems a large part of them.

But because it's story elements that upset people, it's bitching and moaning and BioWare shouldn't listen? Does that mean Slant Six should ignore the issues with ORC? After all, they were 'happy' with the game they've got out there, why should they fix it?

Frankly, I wouldn't mind it if the damned game's ending even started to make sense...

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Why is Joker and the Normandy even in transit when the Relay network is destroyed? And how did EDi, who was apparently vaporised by Harbinger, get back aboard the Normandy? When did she even get that chance?

In fairness to BioWare, there are several different endings. Unfortunately, they're all minor, minor changes such as how damage is done during the end sequence, meaning the Red flavour ending apparently has four variations, with scaling collateral damage.

[Inferno04]

This would've made a better ending:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MSuVTzsg8

[Vector]

YouTube video:

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[Mr. Spencer]

By the way, Operation: Fortress is underway. +25% experience during the whole weekend on multiplayer.

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/23/operation-fortress/

[Wrathborne]

Team fortress 2 it is then :3.

[Mr. Spencer]

Operation: Raptor will be taking place this weekend.

Friday, March 30 – Sunday, April 1

The Reaper horde is growing, so we must as well. Effective military strength needs to increase, and veterans must train conscripts so that they, in turn, can train others.

Allied Goal: Promote 150,000 characters. Victory Packs awarded to all players upon successful completion.
Individual Goal: Promote 2 characters. Commendation Pack awarded to individual players upon successful completion.

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/28/operation-raptor/

[Dracarys]

"This operation includes PC and Xbox 360"

F*** you too, Bioware.

[Mr. Spencer]

Actually, fuck Sony. It's a problem on their end.

[Dracarys]

Indoctrinated?

No it isn't Sony fault. Countless games have done what Bioware claim they cannot do due to Sony. Since countless others have done it it is plainly obvious that BioWare have not put the work in.

"Technical issues" probably means exactly "We did not finish the game but released it anyway"

Same for the Battlefield cross promotion...it just checks you EA Origin account for what is registered on it and stuff in other games are unlocked, it works for every EA game that does this sort of thing, except ME3 on PS3. This is devs just not doing the work. The Amalur promotional items obviously get checked so that right there is the evidence of the system working, they clearly finished those items before release.

[Mr. Spencer]

Indoctrinated?

NO! Look at you, so self-righteous! Do you think opinions like this come easy? There are sacrifices!

[Enetirnel]

Two things that can easily sum up Mass Effect, or hell - Mass Effect 3 specifically.

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Star Ocean 3: Till the End of Time - the Alliance (Terran Alliance, later called the Federation), Reapers (Executioners) - including the "Star Child" with the Convictor type "Convictors are even more powerful. They seem to possess a child-like intellect, wanting only to destroy everything in their paths.", "Arcturis VIII" - Arcturis Station? "Elicoor II", Elcor?

We also have the space colony of Moonbase/Earth/Spacer type backgrounds too for our characters. An anti-Federation (Alliance) group - Cerberus in a respect? And with the main characters working with Quark, they themselves are then called terrorists as well.

We've never encountered a force like the Reapers! - The Executioners would like a word with you.



"It's no wonder some call them gods"



And we all have the "affection" levels and crap like that affecting the endings.

So we can deduce that Shepard is in fact a video game character and that the Reapers were made by Casey Hudson, who wanted to destroy his own creation since they got too popular. When that failed, he deliberately wrote a terrible ending to crush Mass Effect's popularity and prevent his own creation for gaining sentience.

Oh, and not forgetting Final Fantasy - The Spirits Within movie! Come on, anyone that has seen it would see the similarities!



Prothean Beacon flashbacks? Battles between living and synthetics, an organization against the main characters as well as an orbital cannon that originally looked closer in design to the Crucible in Mass Effect 3. We also have characters essentially like Ashley or Kaidan that both die essentially holding the line. Then we have our mains going for destruction until we get a synthesis ending.

Oh, and with that trailer - Dr. Cid on the fairytale part.

[alexdz]

Finally finished ME3 and that's IT? After everything, busting my ass getting shit around the galaxy and avoiding Reapers to put my War Assets at 3000 and something, romancing Tali, getting the closest to tears I'll probably ever get with a game because of Mordin and then Thane and Legion got me sad too and Grunt gave me a scare as well... After ALL this shit all I can do in the end is decide the colour of the explosion?

But what really gets me is the fact the characters have no closure, Joker just pulled them out of Earth god knows how and then landed who the fuck knows where but it's okay because in the far future there's people living there, right? WRONG! What happened after the war? What did they do? Where are my human/quarian hybrid children? And that's the game they finally decided to make the squad interact with each other outside missions, making this even worse.

I'm not angry, I'm just underwhelmed as fuck, I'd probably be angry if I had been following the series for more than two months. I predicted the relays would be destroyed right after we learned about the Reapers and aspected Anderson and TIM to die, I'm okay with that, I'm okay with the Crucible, but the kid at the end and the objective of the Reapers and the choices? What sense any of that made? And that's not counting all the gameplay issues as well.

Bah, you guys already said and heard everything there's to say about this, just needed to vent.

[DarkMemories]

But it's artistic! Look out our seventy five critic reviews! Lots of speculation from everyone!