Nintendo 3DS Released! (Also, Friend Codes here)

[Pikminister]

LOL Wow that thing looks huge.

Anyway, that extra analog is to play the Monster Hunter game that Capcom is making for the 3DS. I dunno what other games will make use of it. I have no need of it with the games I've played on the 3DS up to now.

I think Nintendo could very well release a 3DSXL with the extra analog already built-in sometime in the near future. But if they are planing to do that, I think they could save a lot of face by making it possible to exchange your original 3DS for the new one.

But whatever... I'm happy with my 3DS. Won't get the vapors just because it might get updated eventually... I think we all knew it would happen. Maybe not this soon, though

[Beanovsky Durst]

LOL Wow that thing looks huge.

Anyway, that extra analog is to play the Monster Hunter game that Capcom is making for the 3DS. I dunno what other games will make use of it. I have no need of it with the games I've played on the 3DS up to now.

I think Nintendo could very well release a 3DSXL with the extra analog already built-in sometime in the near future. But if they are planing to do that, I think they could save a lot of face by making it possible to exchange your original 3DS for the new one.

But whatever... I'm happy with my 3DS. Won't get the vapors just because it might get updated eventually... I think we all knew it would happen. Maybe not this soon, though

It's Nintendo, they don't need to save face. They will sell it and people will buy it.
Hopefully this add-on won't become a standard, that would really piss me off because the thing is bulky and hideous... But if it's Capcom related that ties it to RE and that would not make me happy.

We'll see how Nintendo plays this one.

[Pikminister]

It's Nintendo, they don't need to save face. They will sell it and people will buy it.
Hopefully this add-on won't become a standard, that would really piss me off because the thing is bulky and hideous... But if it's Capcom related that ties it to RE and that would not make me happy.

We'll see how Nintendo plays this one.

No, I don't think that thing is meant to be used by every 3DS user out there. Only for those that plan to get the Monster Hunter game, which is being designed to work with 2 analogs.

However, that add-on shows that Nintendo is indeed planning to eventually release a 3DS with 2 analogs. But because it might not come out before the MH game is released, they had to make that fugly peripheral to work with said game.

Basically, Nintendo is saying to devs to create games that work with 2 analogs. Because in the enar future, the 3DS with 2 analogs is going to be the standard. Until that happens, any game that comes out that requires 2 analogs, will probably be sold with that add-on included.

When and if the new 3DS with 2 analogs comes out, Nintendo could make things right by creating some sort of recall/exchange program where every 3DS user can exchange their original unit for the new one.

[Beanovsky Durst]

No, I don't think that thing is meant to be used by every 3DS user out there. Only for those that plan to get the Monster Hunter game, which is being designed to work with 2 analogs.

However, that add-on shows that Nintendo is indeed planning to eventually release a 3DS with 2 analogs. But because it might not come out before the MH game is released, they had to make that fugly peripheral to work with said game.

Basically, Nintendo is saying to devs to create games that work with 2 analogs. Because in the enar future, the 3DS with 2 analogs is going to be the standard. Until that happens, any game that comes out that requires 2 analogs, will probably be sold with that add-on included.

When and if the new 3DS with 2 analogs comes out, Nintendo could make things right by creating some sort of recall/exchange program where every 3DS user can exchange their original unit for the new one.

See that's the problem I have with Nintendo. Early adopters felt screwed with the price drop. This is far worse than a price drop. Taking back 3DS, from a business standpoint, is not profitable for Nintendo, they'll just release it, attach a clever sufix, and wait for their money.

I know I'm suffering from gamer paranoia but I can't stop feeling like I've been cheated as a buyer. But that's gaming business at it's best.

[Smiley]

Nintendo rushed the handheld under the belief that people would buy it for the 3D gimmick. That ended up being far from the truth. It not just how the game looks, but also how it plays.

And I know great games can be made with one analog. I'm hoping that still happens. I would hate to no longer continue to support Nintendo on their products if they start taking pages from Sega with their Sega CD and 32X add ons and don't delivers on the games.

[Pikminister]

I have to agree with PracticalAl in the sense that the DS also had a terrible start. It had no interesting games at launch and it took time before it became the handheld champ. The DS has like 150 million users at present.

Now, you also got the example set by the PSP. It was considered dead and buried like 2-3 years ago. And yet its topping the charts in Japan.

However, things are different now... casuals - which made a big chunk of the handheld user base - seem more interested in the uber popular mobile devices that are stealing the 3DS's thunder. The iPad and similar tablets are the 'in' thing to own these days. The 3DS (and soon the Vita) is being negatively affected by casuals moving away from traditional gaming devices. Because as everyone knows, no gaming console/handheld can be on top unless it has casuals on its side. Just look at the PS1, PS2, Wii and yes, the PS3 & 360 and its legions of CoD players (who won't play much else).

3DS needs more casuals supporting it. Just Core gamers alone isn't enough (not for Ninty's shareholders... that's for sure).

And yeah, that 3DS add-on sure brings back memories of those craptacular SEGA peripherals.

[Kaneco]

I have to agree with PracticalAl in the sense that the DS also had a terrible start. It had no interesting games at launch and it took time before it became the handheld champ. The DS has like 150 million users at present.

Now, you also got the example set by the PSP. It was considered dead and buried like 2-3 years ago. And yet its topping the charts in Japan.

However, things are different now... casuals - which made a big chunk of the handheld user base - seem more interested in the uber popular mobile devices that are stealing the 3DS's thunder. The iPad and similar tablets are the 'in' thing to own these days. The 3DS (and soon the Vita) is being negatively affected by casuals moving away from traditional gaming devices. Because as everyone knows, no gaming console/handheld can be on top unless it has casuals on its side. Just look at the PS1, PS2, Wii and yes, the PS3 & 360 and its legions of CoD players (who won't play much else).

3DS needs more casuals supporting it. Just Core gamers alone isn't enough (not for Ninty's shareholders... that's for sure).

And yeah, that 3DS add-on sure brings back memories of those craptacular SEGA peripherals.

Anything with Monster Hunter in it tops in Japan's charts.

[Xander Ashford]

Hmm, I was all ready to get a 3DS...I was even going to get the Flame Red or whatever that came out a few days ago...But after seeing that they are already toying with upgrades, I can't rationally do it. I was annoyed when I got my DS and then the DSlite or whatever came out a few months later. Stupid me for not researching the thing before I bought one.

Also, the lack of games has become apparent to me. The only real reason I wanted one was to have portable Mercenaries. Sometimes I'm sitting at work just thinking about Resident Evil 5..."Must...Play...MERCENARIES! Will...Cobra Strike...Customers!"

And hopefully, the "new" 3DS won't look as bulky. This new analog thing...No, ma'am, I am not amused. It needs to look a bit more prettyful than that. Plus, I'm sure even better colors are around the bend...

[Smiley]

If you're only buying it for games like mercenaries I wouldn't be suprised if there was a Merc/Revelations bundle down the road. Otherwise you can still pick it up for $20 now. See what kind of 3DS games come out then.

[Beanovsky Durst]

So I finally got my hands on my 3DS. A pretty darn good console so far. Updating it at the moment, to see all the features.
Played the first 6 misions of Mercs 3D. I suck LOL. Not bad for a portable game, this is exactly what I expected of this; but the Revelations demo was kind of short.
3D photos are quite cool!

[PracticalAl]

Footage from Revelations was shown today in Nintendo's 3DS Japan conference. I'm not sure if it was anything new, though. Iwata spoke for a bit about it. I hope it gets translated soon!

(Also, no new 3DS redesign was mentioned or even the dual slide pad. I bet that whole slide pad thing was CAPCOM's creation for Monster Hunter Tri-G/Monster Hunter 4, and not Nintendo's.. ..)

[Dracarys]

Nintendo not gonna announce a new hardware design for 3DS now even if they are planning it. They've has enough bad publicity and backlash and if they announced it now it would just create more and worse for them put a major halt on 3DS sales.

I believe they will do it, devs are putting pressure on Nintendo now, wait until Vita releases and devs have more freedom to work with on that.

[Pikminister]

Anything with Monster Hunter in it tops in Japan's charts.

Well, guess what?

Today at Nintendo's pre-TGS press conference, they revealed that aside from Monster Hunter 3GS (an enhanced port of the Wii version), Capcom is also making MONSTER HUNTER 4 for the 3DS as well.

They also revealed a weird Final Fantasy game for the 3DS... its a tune-based music game with crazy graphics.

Other games seen at the press event: MGS Solid Snake, Ace Combat, a new Tekken game, Cinderella Life (RPG), Fatal Frame, Fire Emblem and a Dragon Quest game. And some other games that I missed.

They also didn't mention anything about the extra-analog slide-pad. Iwata talked about the 3DS having relevant firmware updates, though.

It also seems that the extra analog is not really needed to play Monster Hunter 3GS. It really seems to be something designed for those that cannot play games using 1 analog (poor saps). If true, then those of us that got the current version of the 3DS have nothing to worry about... right?

[Smiley]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardwa...ies/index.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardwa...pad/index.html

Pretty sure these are the games using the second analog.

[Beanovsky Durst]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardwa...ies/index.html
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/hardwa...pad/index.html

Pretty sure these are the games using the second analog.

Oh fuck. I hope REvelations and MGS won't need that terrible add-on, and it's just optional support.

[Kaneco]

Oh fuck. I hope REvelations and MGS won't need that terrible add-on, and it's just optional support.

It's been already confirmed as an optional control scheme.

Consider it a la Classic Controller for those who can't handle innovation.

[Dracarys]

Touchscreen camera is not innovaion, it is awkward to use shitness.

[Pikminister]

It's been already confirmed as an optional control scheme.

Consider it a la Classic Controller for those who can't handle innovation.

Exactly.

Games like Monster Hunter 3GS simply have compatibility with the extra analog add-on. It's like RE4 Wii Edition being compatible with the GameCube controller or the classic pad. Using them is not required to play the game. Its just an option.

The extra analog is there as an option for all those fellas that complained that they cannot possibly play a FPS or anything in 3D without using 2 analogs.

In fact, Nintendo already explained pretty much that when they revealed the list of games that support the extra analog:

Monster Hunter 3G
Resident Evil Revelations
Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater 3D
Ace Combat 3D Cross Rumble
Dynasty Warriors VS
Kingdom Hearts 3D

Again, the extra anlog is just an option to play these games. Its not a requirement.

[Dracarys]

Very naive thinking there. This just means they can release the game with a horrible/flawed/broken control scheme and say "For the best experience buy the extention pad".

The Wii Motion+ didn't even make it to release before 'add-on' became 'will not work without'.

Look at how sudden these devs are supporting this thing, no doubt there was a lot of pressure from them for Nintendo to give it the go ahead.

[Vector]

It's not a requirement, for now...until they come out with the inevitable 3DS redesign that includes the second nub.