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    Wanted to say hello as this is my first post, long, long, long time Lurker, since way back when I first found that you guys had info up for 4d-executor.


    But I'm a bigger fan of the older games in the series and often get in arguments with other gamers about which is the best RE. More often then not I hear 4&5.

    I regretfully disagree. I'm a big fan of 3. Loved Nemmy, loved the ability to make custom ammo or upgrade the guns and most importantly loved the recognization of at some point I would have to either choose fight or flight. Which I feel is a big part missing from these newer Survival horror games.

    I don't have to really be afraid of anything considering I'm armed to the teeth and I can buy ammo every 30 steps. Most areas where I have to fight are wide open as well.

    This is in a large part (I think anyway) due to what you guys have stated earlier in that games are targeted toward the casual crowd. I used to work at Gamestop and I can't tell you how many people bitched and moaned about how you couldn't run in shoot in Resident evil and the biggest complaint was "teh dawgs killed me" or how they couldn't kill every enemy in every room.

    In effort to keep everyone happy we are stuck with these run and blast everything to death games.

    I would really love to see the new RE game attempt to bring me back to a point where I didn't feel so safe in everything I do. I mean in 4 and 5 whos honestly afraid of doing anything there's checkpoints every 10 minutes....Remember when you had to save or sit there mouth agape when you lost 30-45 minutes because you got brave decided not to and something killed you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    Can you speak for everyone then? That's good to know.

    Like i've said - what isn't scary to you, could always be scary to others. Get it?
    i think this is what evry1 would think too, its not scary

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    Quote Originally Posted by IllGiveYouStars View Post

    The problem that RE4 and RE5 made was that they attracted a new crowd of fans.(
    No, the problem is that RE5 had a chance to be something better than RE4 and instead was a glistening turd of a sequel that mostly copy and paste from RE4.

    The fact that they chose to end the story arc the original fans grew up with in such a pathetic way was the real problem with the game. It really killed the series for many of us.

    I do agree that RE4 was made to appeal to new players and stuff, but it it still had enough classic RE feeling to it in a lot of the games settings and tone to at least still fit in the previous RE games, even if the story was a little too over the top for a lot of fans tastes.

    RE5 has none of the previous atmosphere or tone at all and has an even more over the top story than 4...Cept they got rid of the tongue and cheek tone that 4 took with its story and tried to make everything dead serious.

    I honestly think its time to hit the reboot switch and wait a few years before starting over.

    Where's Chrisopher Nolan when you need him? Oh..wait he doesn't direct video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    They're still a lot smarter, and for me at least, a lot more intimidating than the Ganados. You try just walking around and hunting them and they will kill you. Which makes them smarter than most enemies in these games. Yeah, backing up and waiting for them does work, especially on the easier modes, but that's the point - you can't just handle them like a normal enemy. Which can be awkward, if there ARE normal enemies around.

    I admit, I didn't have an issue with ammo in Dead Space. Especially not once I had the Ripper, my typical weapon of choice. I did run out for individual weapons, but never all of them. But then, I was trying to save ammo, being careful with my shots and using Kinesis when possible. If you try the typical 'shoot everything as much as possible' tactics, you die. You might not have to be too careful with your ammo but you have to be careful with your shots.

    Still, the Stalkers (and Necromophs in general) scare me a great deal more than a dozen Ganado managed to do. And the Stalkers basic AI fits what the Ganados are meant to be - aggresive infected humans who are still intelligent - much better than there current run and shuffle attacks.

    I never found the Stalkers very smart either, hide behind something sticking its head out then proceed to run directly at me, usually with a warning scream. Easy kill.

    That said, even if you do not back up against a wall they only appear in areas where their AI will work, put them in other areas of the game like some of the corridors and any idea of intelligence would quickly fade. RE5 has areas where the majini can seem to be smart because of environment but they really aren't.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathborne View Post
    No, the problem is that RE5 had a chance to be something better than RE4 and instead was a glistening turd of a sequel that mostly copy and paste from RE4.

    The fact that they chose to end the story arc the original fans grew up with in such a pathetic way was the real problem with the game. It really killed the series for many of us.

    I do agree that RE4 was made to appeal to new players and stuff, but it it still had enough classic RE feeling to it in a lot of the games settings and tone to at least still fit in the previous RE games, even if the story was a little too over the top for a lot of fans tastes.

    RE5 has none of the previous atmosphere or tone at all and has an even more over the top story than 4...Cept they got rid of the tongue and cheek tone that 4 took with its story and tried to make everything dead serious.

    On the other hand, RE5 was awesome and it shows by being the biggest selling release of any RE game.



    RE5 dead serious, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KylieDog View Post
    On the other hand, RE5 was awesome and it shows by being the biggest selling release of any RE game.

    RE5 dead serious, haha.
    No, RE5 was not awesome. I'm going to quote what Amir0x recently said about his desire for new IPs from Nintendo: "boyshine, you live in a world where you think I give a fuck about sales instead of how good games are. I don't care how the sheep baaa baaaa on their way toward the shittery. I only care if Nintendo delivers great games. Other developers deliver far more expensive games in brand new hardcore IPs that sell less that Pikmin did AND follow it up with Sequels.

    Pikmin was a brand new IP, extremely high quality, sold moderately well, warranted a sequel - but the sales part doesn't matter. The quality part does. That's the only thing that matters to me or any true gamer. If you want to jerk it to stock values and shit you be my guest but that's a direction for conversational porn I have no interest in.

    Side Note: I am pretty sure 85% of people (completely made up statistic ALERT wee-woo wee-woo) who purchased Pikmin had no goddamn clue who Miyamoto is. Hint, most people wouldn't even know he made Mario. INDIVIDUAL game developers remain relative unknowns to consumers at large, who could not tell you the creative director on anything from Call of Duty to Mario."

    And I agree with Amir0x, I don't care about the sales, I care about the quality of the game. And RE5 was a terrible game with horrible plot, story, script, writing, execution, etc. It is not deserved of the Biohazard/RE name. On the bright side, RE4 is a vastly superior game to RE5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shugotenshi View Post
    No, RE5 was not awesome. I'm going to quote what Amir0x recently said about his desire for new IPs from Nintendo: "boyshine, you live in a world where you think I give a fuck about sales instead of how good games are. I don't care how the sheep baaa baaaa on their way toward the shittery. I only care if Nintendo delivers great games. Other developers deliver far more expensive games in brand new hardcore IPs that sell less that Pikmin did AND follow it up with Sequels.

    Pikmin was a brand new IP, extremely high quality, sold moderately well, warranted a sequel - but the sales part doesn't matter. The quality part does. That's the only thing that matters to me or any true gamer. If you want to jerk it to stock values and shit you be my guest but that's a direction for conversational porn I have no interest in.

    Side Note: I am pretty sure 85% of people (completely made up statistic ALERT wee-woo wee-woo) who purchased Pikmin had no goddamn clue who Miyamoto is. Hint, most people wouldn't even know he made Mario. INDIVIDUAL game developers remain relative unknowns to consumers at large, who could not tell you the creative director on anything from Call of Duty to Mario."

    And I agree with Amir0x, I don't care about the sales, I care about the quality of the game. And RE5 was a terrible game with horrible plot, story, script, writing, execution, etc. It is not deserved of the Biohazard/RE name. On the bright side, RE4 is a vastly superior game to RE5.
    Hmm well said In that sence, yes it was shit, I admit after first playing it I turned to my then partner and said that it did'nt feel like a RE game at all, she agreed too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONNIemo View Post
    Hmm well said In that sence, yes it was shit, I admit after first playing it I turned to my then partner and said that it did'nt feel like a RE game at all, she agreed too.
    Me and my best friend had waited until our conflicting work schedules were finally in sync to play this game end up beating it together, watched the ending.

    "Wait....What?"

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    Isn't whether RE5 was awesome or not an opinion? Seems a bit daft either party to go off on a tangent without it being something you can physically prove.

    Resident Evil 4 though, THAT is awesome. I mean scientifically awesome. That is a fact. Not an opinion. No sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    Resident Evil 4 though, THAT is awesome. I mean scientifically awesome. That is a fact. Not an opinion. No sir.
    I really do wonder if you give a flying fuck about the following pre-RE4 games: Resident Evil 1, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil 3, Resident Evil Code: Veronica.

    Are you a fan who only became interested in the RE series post-RE4? I've never seen you ever speak favorably about the classical RE series. I've never seen you admit, I got into Resident Evil because Resident Evil 1 (or 2 or 3) were fucking awesome.

    What I'm saying is, while you are quick to say what you did about RE4, would you say the same about RE1? Would you say "Resident Evil 1 though, THAT is awesome. I mean scientifically awesome. That is a fact. Not an opinion. No sir."?
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    Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

    Just because i'm in the minority of Resident Evil fans who can appreciate just how incredible a game RE4 is, means absolutely NOTHING about how i feel about the earlier games!

    Obviously you're one of these "pick and choose" posters with selective reading if you think RE4 was my first experience with the series.

    But i will add that such elitism, such talk along the lines of "BUT RE4 BROUGHT IN NEW FANS!1!!!" is outdated, and makes you look like Temp. FACT.

    edit: Why WOULDN'T i say that about Resident Evil 1? Or Resident Evil 2? Are those the games being criticised here?
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    Then fucking say what you feel about the earlier games so it doesn't sound like the only thing your a fucking fan of is Resident Evil 4 or 5. So say what you said about RE4 and change the '4' to an earlier game you like. Tell us about a game from the classical series that you like for a change instead of always trying to come to the rescue of RE5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shugotenshi View Post
    Tell us about a game from the classical series that you like for a change instead of always trying to come to the rescue of RE5.
    You just lost ALL credibility

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stu View Post
    You just lost ALL credibility
    I never had credibility with you to begin with. We don't like each other, that much is clear. And I don't care to have credibility with you. That isn't the concern here. The concern is your avoidance to say anything about earlier games.

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    BOOHOO. Don't give it the "you don't like me!" card, i don't care about you, if you say something i agree with, i'll tell you as much, like i have in the past...but again, selective reading on your part.

    To say i always defend Resident Evil 5 though is comedic enough, to say i don't rate the early games is too much though haha

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    Behave. If you're posting to make the other guy mad, then don't bother.

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    Aw, no-one commented on Alan Partridge.

    Scum. Sub-human scum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Spencer View Post
    Aw, no-one commented on Alan Partridge.

    Scum. Sub-human scum.
    I quite enjoyed it.

    As for Stu's comments on RE4 being an amazing game. He was in the right context I believe. We have been talking about the modern Resident Evil, and discussing how 5 is apparently shit (good game, bad RE). He was being humorous about his comment with RE4, while also stating an opinion.

    RE4 is a fantastic game, whether or not it was a good entry in Resident Evil doesn't change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shugotenshi View Post
    Then fucking say what you feel about the earlier games so it doesn't sound like the only thing your a fucking fan of is Resident Evil 4 or 5. So say what you said about RE4 and change the '4' to an earlier game you like. Tell us about a game from the classical series that you like for a change instead of always trying to come to the rescue of RE5.
    My Troll sense is tingling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shugotenshi View Post
    Then fucking say what you feel about the earlier games so it doesn't sound like the only thing your a fucking fan of is Resident Evil 4 or 5. So say what you said about RE4 and change the '4' to an earlier game you like. Tell us about a game from the classical series that you like for a change instead of always trying to come to the rescue of RE5.
    Wait, so because he doesn't say something about the classic games when it isn't even remotely relevant, he's not a fan? Hell, I'm a classic fan to the core, but I like RE5. I shouldn't have to mention that every single time I talk about RE5. Nor should Stu. Now he can grind my nerves sometimes, but Stu generally raises good points. While I don't like RE4 and don't agree that it's a scientific fact (which yes, I understand is sarcasm. At least I hope ) that it's a good game, he's entitled to his own opinion. Just like you're entitled to your opinion that the classic games are better (which I agree with). The difference being, he isn't shoving his opinion down your throat.

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    So do you all think RE6 might have a spot at E3? Maybe a hint, a teaser, or release date?

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