Resident Evil: Game Boy Color - Released on the 4th of feb (2012)

[Darkmoon]

You clearly don't know the history of THIA. It may say I've been here since 08 but I've been hear since longer. There's a lot to learn. I'm not saying I'm not some know it all, but I'm just saying from someone who's only been here since the 10 (I'll give you 09 too) era...you missed out on a lot.

I do know the history of THIA. I've been at this version a long time. I was a member of two, three versions before this. I've been a mod on and off for the last decade or so, and have been threatened with being made a admin a couple of times. Isn't that a terrifying thought, boys and girls?

I'm also friends with a lot of folks and while not directly involved, I have a better idea of what's going on that most people. So let's play a game I like to call 'Suppose'.

Suppose someone, such as Dot, did get hold of a beta like the GBC version of Resident Evil. Suppose he gave his word he wouldn't leak it. Suppose that he might have been keeping such a rare and unusual item to trade for something equally rare and unusual, such as 1.5. Suppose that he just didn't feel like giving away four figures worth of game, but was maybe letting a few people with the technical skills and machinery access to it for things like putting together new sections of the site.

Suppose that he gets into a serious accident and is badly hurt, looses his job, and can't afford to pay his medical bills. Suppose that maybe he has to sell some of his stuff to stay above water. Suppose that new owner doesn't have the same obligations and desires and decides to release it and make back part of his investment (and yes, I'm not supposing it was only part).

I won't say all that is correct. I don't actually know what went down. Just more than most of you guys.

Now, let's get back on topic and stop slinging shit around, shall we?

[Carnivol]

It always fascinates me how some people don't really care about the retail games, nor about the actual historical importance of prototypes from various milestones in development of a title, but what they do care about is for some absurd reason the history and drama surrounding certain prototypes.

Also, nice post @Darkmoon. What'd I ever do without you?
Lots of supposing, but I suppose I could say most of it is supposedly correct... I suppose.

4) The fact Dot lied and said he never owned the RE GBC beta sounds a lot like BS doesn't it? But apparently he couldn't care less if people know he owns it now....

Definition of "ownership" is a bit of a tricky term. Sometimes, you get to borrow something, other times you only get to see something, and then you have the times when multiple people split the tab on something ...

So, anyway, let's entertain the idea that he said he never had it... problem being? Are you somehow entitled to having the facts there? Does it matter to you whether or not he had it? Why does it matter to anyone, actually? Bragging rights? "Told"? What about previous owners? Anonymous sources of origin?

6) You, means you, the one making the post. You said you created the cartridge reader, and 'helped' someone rip backgrounds and values. So maybe I'm misinterpreting it as you took the rom as they dumped it with their tool, and you ripped it. But maybe you're saying you gave them the tool to dump it and they did everything themselves? They = whomever has the cartridge.

I never said I "created" the cartridge reader. Heck. I even mentioned the brand and make. Learn to read.
Background rips and basic memory values were indeed my handywork. Not that anyone else couldn't have accomplished the same by now themselves, but seeing as no one else have taken a shot at it ... I guess it just confirms how useless I tend to feel people can be.

7) You just said you spent a bored night helping someone. So I dunno man.

Sure did. Just counting the days/hours for my two days off and a flight in the middle of a busy project. Good times.

8) That basically confirms you are all in a clique I guess.

Totally. The bonus point system is exsquisit and unparalleled. Right now, I'm just two $2000 and one unreleased proto away from getting a two week cruise in the Bahamas.

9) Nah they helped, but they also hide a lot from the fans, I'm sure of it.

Helped doesn't even fucking describe it. As for the hiding part; it's like the world of MS-DOS out there. Plenty of hot and quiet women who're ready to obey our every order and command. All the good shit is under wraps. No. Seriously. I mean it. We're not sure if we'll ever actually be able to speak about certain things, but I can say this one thing right here and right now:

THIA's core site and content staff (and affiliates) has done the following:
-Supplied an absurd amount money to fund what I shall now refer to as just "stuff" (anyone who has ever spent money knows exactly what it was spent on and how much they spent of the grand total of whatever prototype, preview build, or other content they have participated in funding)
-Properly testing the waters and ensuring that no one's losing their heads over "stuff" suddenly resurfacing
-Made sure that any duplicates or content otherwise deemed "uninteresting" has been traded/sold for more interesting material, without bridges being burned, ropes cut, and/or said exchanged content being somehow devalued.

9) Bloodshed? Bans? Lol. Let's ban someone because they're just expressing their opinion on the whole situation, yah!!!!!!

Yes, whoever owns it, is entitled to whatever they want. But the fact people have ignored the fans is wrong.

"Ignored the fans"? I think it's more like "the fans" (ie. you(?)) is being ignorant and not understanding when it comes to what's actually in play when dealing with these sorts of things. (Also, people should know by now that I only come out of my cave when I'm either incredibly happy/excited about something or when I wanna murder someone... or both)


Trivia that people either already knew, don't care about or for some reason feel "entitled" to know about:
-Around 2007-ish, THIA related core staff spent a five digit sum on "content" that over the years have been released to the public. (When's the last time you did something of that magnitude "for free" and "for others"?)
-There's still content that's been yet to be released from that pool, though (not just from the stuff acquired in 2007).
-As far as Resident Evil content goes, we don't have too much left anymore, but we're ready to strike if needed.
-When content has exchanged hands for money, the money's been split % based on who paid what for the content sold.
-Some content was funded entirely by THIA as a result of approached people being able to actually pay up when they initially claimed they'd gladly donate X amount of money towards something.
-Some content was released after countless claims from people that said they'd donate if a release happened. No such post-release donations have ever happened.
-Some high profile decimaled content was not acquired, partly 'cause the "fans" you speak of weren't able to deliver on their end of the bargain.
-Some stuff was documented very well in advance, but kept under wraps for a long time due to circumstances and powers beyond our control.
-As far as 1.5 goes; you'd be amazed to see what we'd be able to deliver if we actually got our hands on a legit copy of that thing. It'd be unlike anything anyone's ever done before.

Anyway, so to anyone who just "demands" stuff for free and "instantly"; Entitlement issues much? Heard of consequences? Ever thought about contributing without getting in the way of those who know what the heck they're doing? Ever had to choose between apples and oranges?

(The funny thing is; those people who bitch and moan the most about OTHERS being hoarders or whatever, are usually the ones who should take a good look at themselves in a mirror. In the end, it's all just absurd entitlement issues and penis envy.)

[Chris' Boob]

-Some high profile decimaled content was not acquired, partly 'cause the "fans" you speak of weren't able to deliver on their end of the bargain.

What is this? I'm interested. I'm wondering if this was the whole 1.5 fiasco from a while back.

As you said, back on topic about RE GBC. If you want, message me about it Carnivol if you are so ever caring.

[MeanBob]

I actually amazes me how something like this happened, not to mention a release. I think we've seen TOO little about RE GBC through out all these years, but saw so much about RE 1.5. Don't get me wrong, this is awesome that we finally got an unofficial release for this, but RE1.5 was so damn close to us a few times and we got nothing

[News Bot]

BATTLE OF THE BETAS

[Mr. Spencer]

BATTLE OF THE BETAS

Ah, that old chestnut.

[[STARS]TyranT]

Well I appreciate the work you guys do. Irrespective or whether it took monies to do it.

From reading the last two pages of posts, it sounds like you were withing a reaching grasp of 1.5 and it fell through - out of interest how close was the deal to going through?

[Dracarys]

Ready to seal the deal and then...

...and then embedding fails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKYm56-XAck

[Gradon]

Well I appreciate the work you guys do. Irrespective or whether it took monies to do it.

From reading the last two pages of posts, it sounds like you were withing a reaching grasp of 1.5 and it fell through - out of interest how close was the deal to going through?

There is a new report in the news report section of THIA back in 2007.

The guy who was selling the RE1.5 bought it for a mere $300, and he knew we wanted it so he baited us and Dot held a fundraiser and managed to collate $3000.

The seller said it was too little and cut all contact with the community. Tbh, it's a clusterfuck. You should go take a read if you're interested, it's very long winded though.

[Aleff]

Who cares about who has teh betaz anyway. Who cares about who bought, who sold, who had, who has, etc...? Who cares if they have Resident Evil Gameboy Color Beta, 3.5, 1.5, 3.14159265... they PAYED A LOT OF $$$$$ for it, they could toss all betas into fire, start a secret order of the Resident Evil fans, etc. because THEY PAYED FOR IT. (FIVE DIGITS. THAT'S A LOT OF CASH). They sold it for us after 4~5 years into possession, so what? Be glad that they did, we are not entitled to have anything from other people. Oh, Timmy doesn't want to let you play Super Mario Bros. 3? Sorry but you won't be playing it then.

EDIT: By the way, how many people actually took time to complete at least one cart without cheating his way through? And how many people at least tried to find hidden stuff in the ROMS? Everyone feels entitled to have it, but then when it is released only a handful of people enjoy it, at the expense of too many money. I guess it will happen more or less like that when 1.5 is released. People will find a "bug" on the 3rd room of the game and will just quit it and never play it again, even when it could be easily solved without cheats/hacks (i.e. the Control Room on RE GBC, everybody assumed to be a glitched door, when you just had to be in the right spot...

[Rick Hunter]

Some people around here are being very immature, and that's bad.

[drunkdog]

There is a new report in the news report section of THIA back in 2007.

The guy who was selling the RE1.5 bought it for a mere $300, and he knew we wanted it so he baited us and Dot held a fundraiser and managed to collate $3000.

The seller said it was too little and cut all contact with the community. Tbh, it's a clusterfuck. You should go take a read if you're interested, it's very long winded though.

The 300 bucks was a story, from we we know now if that he probably didn't even own the game and he just had time with it..... as in a person he knew had a copy of it and he let him play/record it. That is if we are talking about the same douche bag, curator. But i mean, the story behind how curator got/played changes all the time. Even if he did only pay 500, the person he bought it from clearly didn't know what he had and curator got a steal of a deal.

Why are we even talking about how much this shit costs or who had it? TWO, may i repeat TWO builds of RE GBC have been released for us to play, the guys at assembler are doing amazing work with these carts already. A fully patched version will be released very soon, letting us play threw the whole game without any items/doors not working and that's an awesome thing because right now both carts are very broken.

[drunkdog]

I actually amazes me how something like this happened, not to mention a release. I think we've seen TOO little about RE GBC through out all these years, but saw so much about RE 1.5. Don't get me wrong, this is awesome that we finally got an unofficial release for this, but RE1.5 was so damn close to us a few times and we got nothing

We will get 1.5, believe me, there are more then a few copies out there.... people just keep it under wraps because if capcom found out who sold it to the community, that person would be in deep shit. But like i said, we will get it, if the money is right and we find the right person the game will get released. it's just everytime we get close EVERYONE tries to contact the person, the owner then feels like hes being bombarded by to many people and all of the sudden the game is gone. The guys at bioflames were very close with a pretty complete version as well with curator. There are more known copies out there then just two, that's all im saying

[drunkdog]

Originally Posted by Chris' Boob
4) The fact Dot lied and said he never owned the RE GBC beta sounds a lot like BS doesn't it? But apparently he couldn't care less if people know he owns it now....
Definition of "ownership" is a bit of a tricky term. Sometimes, you get to borrow something, other times you only get to see something, and then you have the times when multiple people split the tab on something ...

So, anyway, let's entertain the idea that he said he never had it... problem being? Are you somehow entitled to having the facts there? Does it matter to you whether or not he had it? Why does it matter to anyone, actually? Bragging rights? "Told"? What about previous owners? Anonymous sources of origin?

This is not my argument but i remember a thread some years ago on a certain biohazard forum when dot said HIMSELF he's meeting with a fellow who has a copy of RE GBC and hes willing to sell it. The chances of dot never owning RE GBC are very slim to none..... But i'd do the same shit, why admit you have a game everyone wants.... just so they can hassle you every day, non-stop.

[drunkdog]

"-As far as 1.5 goes; you'd be amazed to see what we'd be able to deliver if we actually got our hands on a legit copy of that thing. It'd be unlike anything anyone's ever done before."

I'm not saying this statement is false, but to me it sounds like you guys would just release this to the community for free..... I don't see that happening. I don't even see this happening, you guys finding a copy and telling everyone you found a copy only to have everyone bug you guys for a free release. I really wouldn't doubt it if someone on these forums has a copy or had some time with a copy.

[Wrathborne]

Wacthed a complete walkthrough of the game, Its been said that they were like 90% finished with the game before cancellation and really I'm going to have to say thats an over exaggeration.

I'd say that they were most likely about 60% of the way finished with the game before it was canned. Its not just the missing cut scenes, or weapons and items a that dont work, but more so the fact that the only enemy in the game is the zombie.

No hunters, crows, dogs, Yawn, Plant 42, sharks, spiders, or Tyrant.

Now I am completely oblivious as to how much longer it would have taken to have any other enemies programmed into this game, but being how limited the zombies are already I'd say that it would have taken a hell of a lot longer to get even the crows and dogs working.

Little let down, but not too surprised.

[Anders]

With all the drama which happens every time, would you blame anybody for keeping it secret?

[Gradon]

Wacthed a complete walkthrough of the game, Its been said that they were like 90% finished with the game before cancellation and really I'm going to have to say thats an over exaggeration.

If you look on IGN's hands on, that was a way updated version and I'm assuming THAT was the version that was 90% complete, otherwise this version was before IGN's hands on.

[Carnivol]

I'm not saying this statement is false, but to me it sounds like you guys would just release this to the community for free..... I don't see that happening. I don't even see this happening, you guys finding a copy and telling everyone you found a copy only to have everyone bug you guys for a free release. I really wouldn't doubt it if someone on these forums has a copy or had some time with a copy.

I can at least tell you that you wouldn't see it the day we got it. THIA would never ask for money for it either, but we might open for donations directed to any involved third parties that for some reason could either need a reward for their hard efforts or for some reason just feels entitled to it for their contribution to the overall picture. Let's just say that some of us have the resources, skills, and connections to make some pretty cool things come to those who're patient - and we'd love for anyone who's actually on their own little rogue operation with actual results to get in touch, so that we could cooperate where possible and share with you the basic idea of what we've got in mind (and why it's possibly the most awesome thing since a meat thornado).

Anyway, let's just say that the idea, team, and talent to pull off this little spectacle we've had in mind has been in place since roughly 2007~2008, when it sadly slipped our hands once more. Let's just hope that that doesn't happen once more in the future.

With all the drama which happens every time, would you blame anybody for keeping it secret?

I honestly think you should invite every Nirvana fan to your home to come listen to your records. After all, they're fans just like you and they've got a RIGHT to listen to dead people sing into a microphone, so who are you to stop them?

[[STARS]TyranT]

We will get 1.5, believe me, there are more then a few copies out there.... people just keep it under wraps because if capcom found out who sold it to the community, that person would be in deep shit. But like i said, we will get it, if the money is right and we find the right person the game will get released. it's just everytime we get close EVERYONE tries to contact the person, the owner then feels like hes being bombarded by to many people and all of the sudden the game is gone. The guys at bioflames were very close with a pretty complete version as well with curator. There are more known copies out there then just two, that's all im saying

Capcom woudn't be arsed I don't think. Have they ever threatened anyone with any legal action for aquisition of betas?