Prometheus

[Wrathborne]

Of course, it's no secret that Anderson's film also put paid to a Scott directed Alien 5 produced and written by Jim Cameron.

Um....what?

[Darkmoon]

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/686/686746p1.html

[Wrathborne]

I remember the old news, I just cant figure out Batmans sentence structure...Its driving my dyslexic mind crazy, I cant tell if its me or the sentence!

[[STARS]TyranT]

I remember the day I read Alien 5 got put on indefinate hold an AVP got greenlit, a dark day for cinema.

Nice to see Ridley say that - does he include Alien 3 though would we say? At least to see Ripley go through a trilogy - or is he specific and say that for all intents, the Alien saga ends with Aliens?

[Dark_Chris]

For Ridley and Cameron ALien saga ends with Alien 3. While back I read an interview with Cameron somewhere (can't remember where right now) where he said that.

[rehunk88]

I dont think alien 4 is a bad movie... specialy that underwater scene ... amazing filmed.

[Dracarys]

None of these people have any say over what is canon.

[News Bot]

None of these people have any say over what is canon.

The creators of a franchise have no say over what their storyline is?

[Darkmoon]

The creators of a franchise have no say over what their storyline is?

Quite possibly not. As I understand it's the owner, not the creator, who decides...although of course many fans will take the creator's word as W.O.G regardless of what the owner says.

So Mikami could say RE5 is non-cannon, but Capcom would point and laugh. Fans would be divided.

[News Bot]

Quite possibly not. As I understand it's the owner, not the creator, who decides...although of course many fans will take the creator's word as W.O.G regardless of what the owner says.

So Mikami could say RE5 is non-cannon, but Capcom would point and laugh. Fans would be divided.

If the owner is dumb as fuck, I'd be more inclined to go with the creator.

[Darkmoon]

Agreed, but such is the reality - the owner decides.

Which is why I intend to keep owning any works I create...

[TheBatMan]

None of these people have any say over what is canon.

Except they do. Fox has given Scott and Jon Sphatis free reign to create an Alien prequel. At no time did Fox say they had to abide by what happened in the AVP films. If they had then there is no way Scott would have took the job given his feelings on the subject. They have re-written the backstory of Weyland Yutani and thrown Anderson's contributions out of the window, thus thankfully consigning it to the realms of irrelevancy when it comes to Alien canon.

As much as I despise resurrection, unfortunately it has its place in the canon, but thanks to Prometheus the AVP films do not. Even if Prometheus turns out to be bad, we will always be thankful for that at least.

[[STARS]TyranT]

Spoilers folks spoilers.

There has been no announcement, and I don't think it would be that obvious anyway so I would say no.

[Rick Hunter]

Less than 2 days left. I can hardly wait.

[[STARS]TyranT]

It opens the first? Or do you mean till the premiere?

[TheBatMan]

I know people from AVPGalaxy are seeing it tomorrow so the spoiler floodgates will open then. This will be your last warning to stay the hell away from anything Prometheus related on the net if you don't wanna be spoiled.

[Rick Hunter]

The premiere is on tuesday the 29th in Switzerland. So yeah, my ticket is already booked for tuesday

[Rombie]

Re: owner or creator, I can tell you in the case of Alien seems to be Fox who decide. And seem to just roll with it as it comes along. As I posted a few pages back they have decided that the upcoming Colonial Marines game sits in established canon. That's a decision made without Messrs Cameron or Scott.

[Rick Hunter]

What FOX considers canon or not doesn't matter, and the public doesn't care. Ultimately it's what people like Scott or Cameron say that matters. FOX just want to make shittons of money, even by producing awful movies like Avp. Scott and Cameron on the contrary have some integrity when it comes to such popular franchises, and seem to care about what they are doing.

It's like saying Dragon Ball GT is canon even though it wasn't made by Akira Toriyama. It's not canon. And Toriyama himself dismissed it afterwards by producing short stories/video games with different events.

There's nothing to really debate about, it all comes to what people want to believe in.

[[STARS]TyranT]

Okay guys am bowing out of this thread until Friday Enjoy it those that see it early, and I really hope it lives up to expectations!