Resident Evil 6

[Dracarys]

Or how about

- Part of the Wesker project
- Wesker name, obviously
- Survived the virus injection
- Knew Spencer directly
- Worked under Spencer
- Betrayed Spencer

...and that is pretty much all we know. There is only evidence that shows copies of what Albert did, where is the evidence they are completely different? Currently there is nothing that backs up that claim and that will not change until Capcom wish to proceed further with the character, but even then they may just created more similarities rather than differences.

[News Bot]

Everyone in Umbrella worked under Spencer, and almost every employee knew him directly (like you wouldn't know your own CEO). Alex worked closer with him than most (second only to Sergei Vladimir, who I guess is now also a similar character). Many also betrayed Spencer (as listed). A false surname is not really a statement of personality or character. It's an alias. Being part of the Wesker Project also does not indicate any similarities except that they were born to intelligence parents. Surviving the virus injection also doesn't indicate that they are similar. Especially since the virus doesn't always grant superhuman abilities. They share the same "special blood", but so do a couple hundred other random humans around the world. Guess they're all part of the "Wesker legacy" too.

Your logic is retarded, as always. All of your "copies of what Albert did" either apply to other characters or are simply not similarities at all. Just incidental things that have no bearing on a character's personality, characteristics, appearance, or anything else related to them.

So far, Alex has been stated to be less ambitious than Albert and less of a "neo-human", with leadership qualities and the ability to master the skills of others just by observing them (whatever that means in execution). Don't try and use "until Capcom wish to proceed" just to try and give your nonsense some vague credibility. I already stated that there's no way to tell whether or not Alex is similar in any way to Albert, I wasn't arguing otherwise. That's why attempting to make non-existent comparisons is futile, yet you carry it out anyway and ignore your own cop-out. So far, there's no evidence to support the claim that he is just a character used to keep "Wesker's legacy" alive. Ranting about a hypothetical scenario is pointless.

[Dracarys]

Right, so you have no evidence. Gotcha.

Also, knowing who the CEO is is not directly knowing the CEO. Jesus.

[News Bot]

Fuck me you're a consistent tool at the very least. I've provided evidence outlining the differences between Alex and Albert so far, and also evidence which confirms that Alex was planned from the beginning and is featured in the main game. What have you provided? Nothing, as always. Just some laughable "connections". Keep the bullshit coming.

All of the Arklay Laboratory staff knew Spencer directly. Guess Mr. Keith Irving, Jon Toleman and the fucking animal keeper are all facsimiles of Wesker.

[Dracarys]

Fuck me you're a consistent tool at the very least.

Hey look, degenerated into insults and foul langauge as usual. This is why I love your posts, the great breakdown that ends up coming when your twisting of everything fails.

[Dark_Chris]

Smiley and Dracarys two little sad persons with bad taste and zero knowledge about series, yet both try to argue with News Bot who knows about RE more than everyone here combinated. Carry on kiddies..

[Darkmoon]

Why on Earth can people not be polite when talking about a video game series? Right or wrong, you end up looking like a moron when you fall on insulting the other person.

I'll be back after I've eaten dinner to decide on whose been insulting and whose been needling and such. Until then, try and act like you're actually old enough to legally play the games.

[Smiley]

I think they call it online jousting? If not, they should.

So far, Alex has been stated to be less ambitious than Albert and less of a "neo-human", with leadership qualities and the ability to master the skills of others just by observing them (whatever that means in execution). Don't try and use "until Capcom wish to proceed" just to try and give your nonsense some vague credibility. I already stated that there's no way to tell whether or not Alex is similar in any way to Albert, I wasn't arguing otherwise. That's why attempting to make non-existent comparisons is futile, yet you carry it out anyway and ignore your own cop-out. So far, there's no evidence to support the claim that he is just a character used to keep "Wesker's legacy" alive. Ranting about a hypothetical scenario is pointless.

I was looking for the meat of your argument trying to see what makes Alex so different as an individual from Albert.

Albert had leadership qualities. So why you brought this up I haven't the faintest idea.

Mastering the skills of others by observation sounds very much like a copy cat trait for him to have. And that's a vague enough trait to give characters. Albert followed just as well to apply his skills. After all this was a man that had to do a great many things in the series like play the role of a STARS captain, make his own virus, settle in a rival position against competitors.

What Spencer defines (and in some cases praises) of Alex ends up going against him when Alex falls through being just as traitorous as Albert in the grand scheme of things. A man developing the "fountain of youth" cannot be any less ambitious especially when he steals the research from his employer.

Smiley and Dracarys two little sad persons with bad taste and zero knowledge about series, yet both try to argue with News Bot who knows about RE more than everyone here combinated. Carry on kiddies..

Okay I'll bite. Frankly because I eat up personal jabs on a fan based forum. Not going to be mad at you for calling Dracarys and I kiddies, but being the type of persons that we are, our combinated opinions should not discourage you from believing NewsBot's. I'll spare the back and forth about how much you know about the games. It matters little how much a gamer has acquired in learning about blue gems or Jill sandwiches.

I admit I don't go out of my way to get all the supplemental material because unless it's for a collection I'll never read it. Then you have the painful process of needling friends to translate for you, or thinking you're doing the translations yourself right by purchasing dictionaries and the like just to reword something that in some cases are already translated just fine. Pretty exhausting work over a video game. I don't speak Japanese... CLEARLY.

So all I fall back on are the games that I own. I have to rely on Capcom (snicker) to perform their own translations and writing to the best of their abilities for an English speaking audience. If I can get the message of the characters and narrative then that's good enough for me. But if they convey any misinformation that opposes another source that's not the fault of the fan. That's the fault of the product and the people behind it. As long as the game play more than makes up for it I generally give them a pass. Because game play is the fundamental ingredient to a video game in the long run.

Alex Wesker could be masterfully written as the golden prodigy of the series in supplemental or the Japanese text. I'm speaking on behalf of the copy I own and what's been written of him from there.

[Mr. Spencer]

It all boils down to the classic argument of nature versus nurture. I mean, would Alex already be a bad apple or (like Albert) did he have the 'ambition' instilled within him as part of the Wesker Project?

[Smiley]

That could be said for nearly any villain. Whatever shaped or motivated them to do evil deeds isn't the issue with me. Just the idea that Capcom decided to tarnish the uniqueness of Wesker as an individual by giving him a doppelganger. Now Albert was "manufactured" with a list of others, one of which repeats history with Spencer. Now Albert's dead and people are quick to say that "Alex" has to be the villain. There's no reason to say Alex "has" to be in RE6 in general. We've had lingering threats that rannged from Nicholai to Spencer yet we were still given newcomers like Saddler and Morgan. I don't see Capcom as the type of company that has a self contained story with closure planned in advance. So there's no need to progress with shoddy writing just to "bring closure". They could very well move on with a different threat all around. Hopefully something a little more creative than an Ada clone or Wesker doppelganger.

[ugh]

Smiley and Dracarys two little sad persons with bad taste and zero knowledge about series, yet both try to argue with News Bot who knows about RE more than everyone here combinated. Carry on kiddies..

get a load of this guy

[Wrathborne]

Stop trolling him.

[Darkmoon]

Justice dispensed. Maybe you guys can try being, y'know, grown ups in this now. I know, I know, it's the internet, acting like a spoiled brat is cool according to /b/, but I hate /b/ anyway.

[ugh]

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[Darkmoon]

News Bot got Ten infraction points. You, Dracarys and Dark Chris got Five each for exacerbating the situation. If you look at the bottom of each of your side bars you'll see yours has 0/1 (5) with the (5) being the number of points. News Bot, on the other hand, has 0/1 (10), as ten points is standard for an infraction insulting another member.

Next time, if you have a question about the how and why of the infractions, I suggest you use private messages rather than posting something...incorrect...on a public forum.

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why isn't newsbot banned then? considering his behavior, he should have enough infractions for 10 bans or more.

[Darkmoon]

Over his time here, News Bot has acquired a fair few points. However, unless the circumstances are exceptional, Infraction points wear off after a certain time (15 days in the four cases here today) and 30 at one time are required for a temp ban. Infractions alone won't get you permanently banned - that requires a constant level of bad behaviour that News Bot hasn't displayed, since most of his infractions come from being baited by other members into acts of anger. So long as he's not wound up he behaves well enough. Although it would certainly be helpful if he could control his temper better...

Whenever someone achieves a ban, there case is reviewed and a decision made as to whether there history means they should relieve a permanent ban. Fortunately, we've only had to do that with a small number of users...most of the people in our banned accounts list are spambots and alternative accounts of people who can't handle being banned and can't behave well enough to avoid one of us looking a little deeper into there account.

If you have any futher questions, please read this post - http://www.the-horror.com/forums/sho...What-Not-To-Do - on contact someone via PM. Please don't do it here, as I'd like this topic back on topic and away from the bickering.

[News Bot]

For the record I don't have an issue with Smiley. We just disagree, but he does raise fair points.

[Reston]

So since there is no thread for the movie DAMNATION besides being in the news update area, does anyone know what's going on? I see it was pushed back to late October for Japan but there was no mention of a U.S. or PAL release date. I thought, like others, this movie was serving as some sort of build up to RE6 but doesn't it seem sort of pointless if the movie comes out after the game is released?

I know there are three different locations: Tall Oaks, Edonia Republic, and Lanshiang for RE6. I was assuming that DAMNATION tied into Edonia Republic but each time I hear more on RE6 it seems to have engulfed more of what DAMNATION was. I'm starting to wonder if they removed stuff from DAMNATION for RE6 and decided to create different material for the movie which may explain why it was pushed further back from a summer release date to the fall.

Thoughts, comments, concerns?

[TheBatMan]

Damnation won't tie too heavily into Biohazard 6 I feel, as it has to be marketed to people who haven't necessarily played the games as well as the fans. I think it will have a tie in similar to that of Degeneration into 5. We may see the origins of the C Virus or a J'avo but nothing too heavy.

Unfortunately for us I think it will just be a standalone story with Leon.