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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiley View Post
    Except that in one scenario he called her bluff. In another she admitted her love. The implications that Ada was over Leon are not suggested with the number of times she comes to his aide and vice versa. But then a scene occurs where she has a gun on him and all that goes out the window as both characters make decisions that are far from heroic.

    He has a choice to not give her sample. He was faced with a loaded gun to the head before and handled quite well in close quarters combat against her.
    In BH2. Not BH4. And the former didn't happen. Stop dealing in hypotheticals. Just because HUNK dies in a what-if scenario doesn't mean he's actually dead. Likewise with Ada losing the G-Virus, quitting the spy business and deciding to go and find Leon.

    You seem to often forget that it's fiction and logic typically is very, very strained in the entire series. But claiming two characters are evil, although both are confirmed to be "good", is just idiotic. No amount of "what-ifs" you bring up will change that.
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    Not dealing in anything the game never provides. If you desire to use supplemental material that's fine. I'm just saying that no matter the alternative the events take us to this point. Including the latter. So to change the outcome of these characters based on what RE4 and RE2 before it had established is pretty silly and in no way heroic for either of them.

    At least your confirmation that Ada is good has been noted. You can put that to rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smiley View Post
    Not dealing in anything the game never provides. If you desire to use supplemental material that's fine. I'm just saying that no matter the alternative the events take us to this point. Including the latter. So to change the outcome of these characters based on what RE4 and RE2 before it had established is pretty silly and in no way heroic for either of them.

    At least your confirmation that Ada is good has been noted. You can put that to rest.
    You're arguments are stupid as fuck.

    Anyway. Thought this would be worth sharing. Whatever comes out of the cocoon at the beginning of the trailers is female and has Ada's hairstyle. Look closely at the chest and head.

    Likewise, in the screenshot of the "C-Virus Experiment", the first and last names of the "Subject" look like they begin with "C" and "R". Try typing out "Carla Radames" and covering the name with a sheet of paper or something. Look familiar?
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    Come now. I thought we'd be mature enough to avoid the "your arguments are stupid" sort of replies. You even threw a "fuck" in there for good measure.
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    *facepalm*

    anyway...

    Anyway. Thought this would be worth sharing. Whatever comes out of the cocoon at the beginning of the trailers is female and has Ada's hairstyle. Look closely at the chest and head.

    Likewise, in the screenshot of the "C-Virus Experiment", the first and last names of the "Subject" look like they begin with "C" and "R". Try typing out "Carla Radames" and covering the name with a sheet of paper or something. Look familiar?
    I have been thinking that the being is Carla too. While I think that way the clone thing wouldnt be that bad I hope its made in a way that Wesker can not be revived via cloning

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    From "Jackpot" on NeoGAF:

    http://i.imgur.com/TWhBl.jpg

    Reconstructed the name from other letters in the screencap but with incorrect spacing.

    First name is the reconstructed name.
    2nd name is the reconstructed name with the top of the censor bar pasted over it.
    3rd name is the reconstructed name with the top of the censor bar pasted over it and the pixels of letters poking through highlighted in red (which match the positions of where the tall letters of the reconstructed name meet the censor bar)
    4th name is the original censor graphic for comparison.
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    Oh god. It's fucking true.

    Ada has a clone. Man alive.

    Really not sure how I feel about this.
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    omg Carla is Lady Gaga


    Or Kerrigan

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    She's sure not your typical clone.
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    Well the good news is we seemingly have till October before we can dissect into the final product. So like it or hate it, that's on the table.

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    Amazing work News Bot. Just wait until its revealed Wesker is alive and the Wesker that died in RE5 was a clone. xD
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    If Wesker in Resident Evil 5 was a clone and the real Wesker is still alive....

    I will bow out of this series. It would be too much.

    EDIT:

    C-Virus stands for Clone Virus, or Copy - giving the perfect copy of it's host.

    ????
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    I wouldn't mind to be honest, Wesker is my favorite character in the series but if there is a clone and the real one died, then I'll get angry.
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    I'd rather Chrysalis.

    Wesker please dont revive. You are not Natla dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vito View Post
    Amazing work News Bot. Just wait until its revealed Wesker is alive and the Wesker that died in RE5 was a clone. xD

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    Well to be fair-- News Bot posts are right. Cloning has been done quite a few times in Resident Evil with both the Ashford twins and bio-organic weapons. I for one do not have an issue with the Ada clone but

    I am probably in the minority here but I really do not see an issue with the cloning of Ada Wong or if Carla is the real lady and Ada is a clone. All of our fears is that the writers down the line may use this window and say, "Well the Albert you faced in RE5 was a clone" however I do not honestly believe that is the direction they are going with. As others on this forum here have stated before, the use of the same villain over and over again does get tiring.

    I wish I still had access to the article but I can no longer find it -- someone wrote this big essay on Albert Wesker's end game. One of the themes the writer was trying to convey is that in the RE series they use "eugenics".

    From dictionary.com,

    " the study of or belief in the possibility of improving the qualities of the human species or a human population, especially by such means as discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics)."

    Like the Wesker Project. I guess cloning can be a use of eugenics. Just food for thought.

    Only thing that could kill this game for me is if they throw in Alice....

    EDIT: Found out why. Apparently wordpress.com no longer has the article. Here is the link though where you can find it thanks to the way back time machine.

    http://web.archive.org/web/201011080...game-spoilers/
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    For gods sake, Albert Wesker is not coming back. His death was exaggerated in Bio5 to prove the point he cannot return and yet people still argue the case.
    Capcom have already stated numerous times he is gone for good. Why the hell would a clone of Wesker exist and why would a clone of Wesker try to destroy the world with Uroboros? It's idiotic.
    What was the real Wesker doing then, off on his jollies and just letting his clone do all the work for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBatMan View Post
    For gods sake, Albert Wesker is not coming back. His death was exaggerated in Bio5 to prove the point he cannot return and yet people still argue the case.
    Capcom have already stated numerous times he is gone for good. Why the hell would a clone of Wesker exist and why would a clone of Wesker try to destroy the world with Uroboros? It's idiotic.
    What was the real Wesker doing then, off on his jollies and just letting his clone do all the work for him?
    Well, yes, that's rather the point - why would a clone of Ada be running around, trying to recruit Wesker's kid? Why would she even have a Clone?

    And yeah, hopefully Wesker is gone for good, but having character clones running around makes it quite possible to bring him back. Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    Well, yes, that's rather the point - why would a clone of Ada be running around, trying to recruit Wesker's kid? Why would she even have a Clone?

    And yeah, hopefully Wesker is gone for good, but having character clones running around makes it quite possible to bring him back. Again.
    Exactly.

    That's what I've been saying since all this cloning shit surfaced... once they start cloning one of the main characters from the series, all bets are off. Anyone can be cloned. Including Wesker.

    RE becomes Dragon Ball Z... where no one really dies, they just (say it with me) they just become STRONGER.

    And I'm not kidding, if they bring back Wesker... fuck this shit, Silent Hill here I come.

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    Ironically saw the same discussion regarding Ada on Biohaze a few months back. I think the best descriptive for Ada (barring what RE6's plot means to her, because even if there is a clone what part did she play in the clones appearance) I saw was "anti-hero."

    People made a comparison to the modern edition of Catwoman. A character that does generally bad deeds but has a strong moral compass to not do anything too evil to the "good" guys and just use manipulation to get their own way.

    I was also going to say if people start blaming Anderson's films for any clone thing, he only really originally decided to use it (and the super powers Alice got at first) due to Alexia in Code Veronica. I don't like his films but I am at least not going to finger point any blame on him for this line, as News Bot said it's not entirely new.

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