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  • #31
    Originally posted by ValentineLover View Post
    What if Ada got multiple personality disorder?
    Just what i thought and was going to say , You see the man voice in beginning says :"Just Something i think you would benefit from knowing" perhaps a new Virus or something infects her then she gets multiple personality ....

    Possible cause at the end when Chris was about to shot her she was almost scared .... "Which i don't think evil person like Carla would do" and she was almost shocked just as if she was Ada , but then when Chris shots the wall because of Leon , if you paused you see her looking evil and in creepy way at them , and why's Leon protecting her ? or maybe its just Carla and hes protecting her cause she reminds him of Ada and hes not sure ?
    Last edited by Mrox2; 04-14-2012, 04:23 AM.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Smiley View Post
      Dodging the fact that Leon may just be worse than Ada Wong? Figures.

      And spare me the writing. Our last outing with Leon and Ada together wasn't exactly sensible either. Not "introduce a clone" bad, but.....!

      I'll give you this though. If Capcom continues to lure in the mack daddy of cliche's I can only assume it has to do with appeasing sacrificial Gods from wreaking chaos upon mankind.
      There's nothing to dodge, your comment is retarded. The writers say she isn't evil. So she isn't evil. Unless they have changed their minds. That's all there is to it. You over-complicating the issue by throwing out a bunch of hypothetical situations and goofy logic doesn't mean much of anything.

      CODE:Veronica has two central antagonists that are fully functioning human clones, cloned from a mummified corpse that was dead for at least two centuries. They even explained the cloning process in full.

      [1971]

      ► Alfred and Alexia are born.
      - If your infer from the description in the "CODE:Veronica Report", those two were made in the process of manufacturing a clone of one person, that is, a duplicate of Veronica, and they aren't Alexander's children*. Moreover, he added to Veronica's genes that were used as a template to achieve an intelligence higher than the original.
      (*) ... If a specific gene is electrically fused with a mature oocyte with nucleus removed, the ovum enters the process of fertilization, begins to divide and the same genes are fused = become a clone of the owner's genes (cloning process). Alexander also incorporated the genes (he prepared) of Veronica to the mature oocyte of a surrogate mother creating brother and sister, and his sperm was not introduced. Furthermore, it has been said to be currently impossible to create clones from genes of the deceased.
      Umbrella also cloned all of their B.O.W.s, and were able to speed up the maturation process.

      The T-Virus is essentially a mutagen virus that is capable of inducing sudden mutations on the subject. Upon infection, it rewrites the DNA of the subject and mutates it into a creature with different properties. By figuring out how to carefully control this mutagenic property, Umbrella was able to craft their various bio-weapons. Even so, because each creation is the result of a mutation, if one wanted to reproduce an identical result, the use of cloning was necessary.
      And you're telling me it can't be used again? Give me a break. As long as it fits and makes sense in the storyline, there is no issue.
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      • #33
        The writers say she isn't evil (or rather the character's description of herself) despite what she does as a spy manipulating and even threatening characters like Leon just to achieve her goal.

        If you want to say she's good then by all means state that she is a protagonist stealing samples and holding up cops in order to save the world. I won't think any differently of you.

        But you can't back out of Leon in support of Ada taking these samples to Wesker. That was a fact based on his character.

        And bringing up situations of cloning kept in the background of the narrative doesn't excuse it from being poor additions. If they use it again to clone a character who has no place being cloned in the first place then that's even worse. Especially as a main plot point if that be the case.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Smiley View Post
          The writers say she isn't evil (or rather the character's description of herself) despite what she does as a spy manipulating and even threatening characters like Leon just to achieve her goal.

          If you want to say she's good then by all means state that she is a protagonist stealing samples and holding up cops in order to save the world. I won't think any differently of you.

          But you can't back out of Leon in support of Ada taking these samples to Wesker. That was a fact based on his character.

          And bringing up situations of cloning kept in the background of the narrative doesn't excuse it from being poor additions. If they use it again to clone a character who has no place being cloned in the first place then that's even worse. Especially as a main plot point if that be the case.
          Who knows why is she doing this , perhaps thats the only way she can live or she is forced to ... No one knows , but her intentions are good and she never intended to hurt anyone ....
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Smiley View Post
            The writers say she isn't evil (or rather the character's description of herself) despite what she does as a spy manipulating and even threatening characters like Leon just to achieve her goal.

            If you want to say she's good then by all means state that she is a protagonist stealing samples and holding up cops in order to save the world. I won't think any differently of you.

            But you can't back out of Leon in support of Ada taking these samples to Wesker. That was a fact based on his character.

            And bringing up situations of cloning kept in the background of the narrative doesn't excuse it from being poor additions. If they use it again to clone a character who has no place being cloned in the first place then that's even worse. Especially as a main plot point if that be the case.
            Again, why you keep trying to Leon in relation to this laughable argument is beyond me. Her motives are unknown and she is very much in a gray zone when it comes to her actions, but she is not an antagonist and has never done anything evil. Writers say she's not evil. She's not evil. Unless they have changed their mind or there is a reason in the story that she is heavily involved with bioterrorism, that's all there is to it. Your Leon example is completely irrelevant.
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            • #36
              A gray zone is not a "good" zone. If the writers claims she's not evil then you should have no quarrels categorizing her as a protagonist.

              You can't even acknowledge how Leon is in the wrong here either. I find that amusing simply for the fact that this is supposed to be our hero.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                A gray zone is not a "good" zone. If the writers claims she's not evil then you should have no quarrels categorizing her as a protagonist.

                You can't even acknowledge how Leon is in the wrong here either. I find that amusing simply for the fact that this is supposed to be our hero.
                Leon gave her the sample because she had a gun to his head. If he called her bluff and happened to be wrong, he'd be dead, and she'd have the sample anyway. When he realizes her bluff, he runs after her. She gets away. LEON IS SUCH A VILLAIN. He questions her intentions throughout the entire game and ends up being completely dumbfounded by her. She's someone he hasn't seen for six years and is under the impression that she's working for a murdering bastard. None of that makes him a bad person. Doesn't even make Ada a bad person since it wasn't the case, and she never did a single antagonistic thing the entire game except manipulating a bunch of villains into destroying themselves and supporting the protagonist while using him to accomplish her own objective. Your "argument" if you can even call it that, is completely irrelevant.
                Last edited by News Bot; 04-14-2012, 08:30 AM.
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                • #38
                  Actually it does. Leon is dumbfounded alright. Either he can't call her bluff despite how much Ada wuvs him or he intentionally let her take the sample to a murdering bastard. And after all Ada does she still takes her samples back whether it be Wesker or her own rival organization.

                  And if she did have it in her to kill Leon then that's threatening the safety of the President's Daughter damning her fate and ending the life of a police offer turned U.S. agent.

                  None of this spells heroics to any of them.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                    Actually it does. Leon is dumbfounded alright. Either he can't call her bluff despite how much Ada wuvs him or he intentionally let her take the sample to a murdering bastard. And after all Ada does she still takes her samples back whether it be Wesker or her own rival organization.

                    And if she did have it in her to kill Leon then that's threatening the safety of the President's Daughter damning her fate and ending the life of a police offer turned U.S. agent.

                    None of this spells heroics to any of them.
                    There's no indication for Leon that Ada has the hots for him once in the game. In fact, it's implied that she mostly got over her feelings for him after BH2 (her scenario in UC also implies this). He lets her take the sample because he has no choice.

                    Again, you are dealing in purely hypothetical shit. In other words, irrelevant.
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                    • #40
                      Except that in one scenario he called her bluff. In another she admitted her love. The implications that Ada was over Leon are not suggested with the number of times she comes to his aide and vice versa. But then a scene occurs where she has a gun on him and all that goes out the window as both characters make decisions that are far from heroic.

                      He has a choice to not give her sample. He was faced with a loaded gun to the head before and handled quite well in close quarters combat against her.
                      Last edited by Smiley; 04-14-2012, 08:53 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                        Except that in one scenario he called her bluff. In another she admitted her love. The implications that Ada was over Leon are not suggested with the number of times she comes to his aide and vice versa. But then a scene occurs where she has a gun on him and all that goes out the window as both characters make decisions that are far from heroic.

                        He has a choice to not give her sample. He was faced with a loaded gun to the head before and handled quite well in close quarters combat against her.
                        In BH2. Not BH4. And the former didn't happen. Stop dealing in hypotheticals. Just because HUNK dies in a what-if scenario doesn't mean he's actually dead. Likewise with Ada losing the G-Virus, quitting the spy business and deciding to go and find Leon.

                        You seem to often forget that it's fiction and logic typically is very, very strained in the entire series. But claiming two characters are evil, although both are confirmed to be "good", is just idiotic. No amount of "what-ifs" you bring up will change that.
                        Last edited by News Bot; 04-14-2012, 10:26 AM.
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                        • #42
                          Not dealing in anything the game never provides. If you desire to use supplemental material that's fine. I'm just saying that no matter the alternative the events take us to this point. Including the latter. So to change the outcome of these characters based on what RE4 and RE2 before it had established is pretty silly and in no way heroic for either of them.

                          At least your confirmation that Ada is good has been noted. You can put that to rest.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                            Not dealing in anything the game never provides. If you desire to use supplemental material that's fine. I'm just saying that no matter the alternative the events take us to this point. Including the latter. So to change the outcome of these characters based on what RE4 and RE2 before it had established is pretty silly and in no way heroic for either of them.

                            At least your confirmation that Ada is good has been noted. You can put that to rest.
                            You're arguments are stupid as fuck.

                            Anyway. Thought this would be worth sharing. Whatever comes out of the cocoon at the beginning of the trailers is female and has Ada's hairstyle. Look closely at the chest and head.

                            Likewise, in the screenshot of the "C-Virus Experiment", the first and last names of the "Subject" look like they begin with "C" and "R". Try typing out "Carla Radames" and covering the name with a sheet of paper or something. Look familiar?
                            Last edited by News Bot; 04-14-2012, 02:58 PM.
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                            • #44
                              Come now. I thought we'd be mature enough to avoid the "your arguments are stupid" sort of replies. You even threw a "fuck" in there for good measure.
                              Last edited by Smiley; 04-14-2012, 03:01 PM.

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                              • #45
                                *facepalm*

                                anyway...

                                Anyway. Thought this would be worth sharing. Whatever comes out of the cocoon at the beginning of the trailers is female and has Ada's hairstyle. Look closely at the chest and head.

                                Likewise, in the screenshot of the "C-Virus Experiment", the first and last names of the "Subject" look like they begin with "C" and "R". Try typing out "Carla Radames" and covering the name with a sheet of paper or something. Look familiar?
                                I have been thinking that the being is Carla too. While I think that way the clone thing wouldnt be that bad I hope its made in a way that Wesker can not be revived via cloning

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