Resident Evil 2 Remake, how would you like yours?

[News Bot]

I thought crimson heads were a pre-licker mutation state, were they not? And wasn't part of Raccoon's infection caused by the mansion leaks filtering down through the Arklay mountains as well as Birkin spreading it through the sewers?

Crimson Heads are created by a similar process to the Lickers and have similar attributes, but the mutations are completely separate. A Crimson Head will never evolve into a Licker, and the "Suspended" (or Regis Licker as it's incorrectly known) is not an actual Licker, it's a freak mutation. Outbreak's boss enemies were originally meant to be freak mutants such as the Giant Leech, Two-Headed Zombie Dog, Megalodon Neptune and so on.

Very little of the infection actually spread from the mansion. Traces of the virus leaked into the sewer from the mansion (the mansion, hospital and laboratories are all connected via the sewer system, which is in turn connected to the underground carrying-out tunnels) and infected a few people within the vicinity, but the infection wouldn't have spread. The cause of the zombies which appeared in August came from the leak caused by Birkin at the abandoned plant, and these ones began to spread very slowly. It was the attack on Birkin on September 23 that caused a huge leak and was ultimately responsible for the city's destruction, which was made worse by the fact that most of Raccoon City was in one place at the time: the stadium. It became a zombie domino effect at that point.

But ORC? If a base in Russia could have a strain, and now the mansion incident.... Why can't Raccoon City? I want my Crimson Heads back!!! I want them back DAMMIT!!!

It's not impossible but it is very, very dumb if you try to explain it away in the plot, in my opinion. It worked in the BH1 remake, it wouldn't work with any other visit to Raccoon City since we've seen enough of it already and they have refused to use Crimson Heads. It would seem tacked on at best. The Crimson Heads in Umbrella's End are there because the strain was most likely sent there. Research in Raccoon City was focused on Birkin's refined strain that created Lickers, Tyrants and Hunters, while the mutant strain was shipped elsewhere to be cultivated for, presumably, mass-production (which is what the base in Russia was explicitly for). Since Arklay (according to BH1 remake) focused heavily on the Crimson Heads and initially discovered them, samples of the mutant strain were still there, which is why it spread when the Queen Leech attacked.

The mutant strain is however purchased from Umbrella and used by Javier to create the faster and stronger "Javier Zombies" in Darkside Chronicles. These weren't true Crimson Heads apparently since their state of suspended animation was artificially induced. Actually receiving damage seems to make the mutation more aggressive, which makes sense since the V-ACT process reconstructs tissue.

EDIT: Of course I'm talking from the perspective of a new game based in Raccoon City, rather than a remake. It could work in the latter but good luck trying get even remotely the same quality as the BH1 remake. The time for remakes of any of the older games has long since passed and nothing good will come out of remaking them now.

[Smiley]

Nothing except $$$

[MiLØ]

I'd sell my last pair of drawers and give Capcom all my money if only they did this remake... the right way

[randomwab]

Does PU have a timeline that covers the various incidents that occurred leading up to the Raccoon outbreak? It might be selective memory, but I honestly can't remember anything about two seperate leaks by Birkin.

[News Bot]

Does PU have a timeline that covers the various incidents that occurred leading up to the Raccoon outbreak? It might be selective memory, but I honestly can't remember anything about two seperate leaks by Birkin.

We have the Chronology of Evil I wrote but I'm not sure if I extensively covered them enough. I am currently working on a major revision of that timeline and will have them included soon, though. We just keep discovering new things to add or change.

[Grinder]

A two headed zombie dog? That's the first I heard of this? I played outbreak alot but don't remember that.

[News Bot]

A two headed zombie dog? That's the first I heard of this? I played outbreak alot but don't remember that.

Never materialized since Outbreak is incomplete. We'll be doing a full feature on it soon.

[Grinder]

Ah I see so it's from what was going to be file 3 but how big was this dog if it was the same size as the others it wouldt really make a good boss really. Also this feature your doing does it include the in game model of g birkin that was seen in the early trailers for file 1??

[News Bot]

Ah I see so it's from what was going to be file 3 but how big was this dog if it was the same size as the others it wouldt really make a good boss really. Also this feature your doing does it include the in game model of g birkin that was seen in the early trailers for file 1??

Yup, as well as a few extra Tyrants and a beta Thanatos.

[randomwab]

God, I just love Outbreak so much.

[News Bot]

Here's an unfinished peek at the unused Tyrant.

[Darkmoon]

Yet another Project Umbrella article I'll need to read, given my love of all things beta. Oh, Outbreak File #3, if there's one game I wish to play then...well, that's 1.5 But after that it's...3.5. But you're a solid third!

I do wonder if some of the Outbreak events could be referenced in a RE2 Remake. It would also be nice to visit more of Raccoon City than we did in RE2. And just like that, I smoothly slide us back on topic.

[randomwab]

That Tyrant looks like the original one from the first game combined with Thantos.

[News Bot]

Oh yeah, they had BH2 Lickers in there as well, which confirms that the ones seen in Outbreak are "infants".

The U.S.S. also had gray uniforms. There's actually a very old screenshot of Miguel and Rodriguez with them. There is also another U.S.S. member, who is older and balding than even the "unlockable" U.S.S. members that are playable.

The "two-headed Cerberus" is pretty interesting. There are models for an uninfected golden retriever, and an uninfected doberman. Apparently, they somehow fused like something out of The Thing.

[randomwab]

Anything on cut scenarios?

[Grinder]

Oh yeah, they had BH2 Lickers in there as well, which confirms that the ones seen in Outbreak are "infants".

The U.S.S. also had gray uniforms. There's actually a very old screenshot of Miguel and Rodriguez with them. There is also another U.S.S. member, who is older and balding than even the "unlockable" U.S.S. members that are playable.

The "two-headed Cerberus" is pretty interesting. There are models for an uninfected golden retriever, and an uninfected doberman. Apparently, they somehow fused like something out of The Thing.

Show me and tell me everything about file3/beta! From scenarios to bows please I love outbreak to bits and it's a shame it never was fully complete. Sorry that this is off topic .

Also wasn't uss luke in the grey uniform?