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    Apparently today the worlds first glimpse of this movie is today at the comic con.

    It astounds me that for a film that wrapped filming before Prometheus there's still no trailer or behind the scenes footage? What is going on?

    All we know is that this is Akira Yamaoka last legacy on the series, and it's based on Silent Hill 3, but features aspects of the Silent Hill (1) movie.

    So... I don't know what else to say... I just hope the trailer knocks us for six.
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    Well the director's blog basically explained a lot of why it's been delayed releasing after shooting wrapped, it needed proper distribution channels and then once that was done a properly decided release date - which ended up being Halloween 2012. He said the publicity was out of his hands, the fact it was even at Comic Con almost surprised me at first when I read that it was scheduled earlier this week.

    I'm waiting for the footage to hit the net, can't be too much longer... the film will be out in just over 3 months.

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    BAM! First clip!





    Anyways, I enjoyed the clip. I've seen mixed opinions from:

    - Adelaide Clemens accent slips in (She sound fine to me )
    - Looks like a TV movie (LOL, just no)
    - The Nurses don't stay completely still (They didn't in the first movie either)
    - The Nurses also look too different (They look practically the same lol)
    - Too bright (I can kinda agree)
    - Camera and editing sucks.
    - Wasn't scary (Horror films of today rarely scare me, but if I can feel some tension then I'm good)

    I don't know what people were expecting. Personally, I thought the scene played out great and was sad it stopped in the middle of the action.

    The only critiques I have is that the scene is a little bright and the fact it was filmed digitally. Digital films can look a little clean and sterile, which is why film based shooting worked well for the first film. It had a hazy dream quality to it.

    Adelaide was a great choice for Heather. Happy with what I've seen of her so far.
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    So is Sean Bean still in it?
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    ^ Sean Bean is indeed in the film.

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    51 seconds into the clip and I stopped. This is gonna fail hard, its repeating the same mistakes the first film did. Also...Yeah this films story is a continuation of the first films nonsense, but with the silent hill 3 story getting butchered now.

    The nurse designs look terrible, and the actress they got playing heather looks like a Mary Sue in real life.

    Heather herself was never drop dead beautiful in the game, which was something that made her stand out more than any other female protagonist I've played. I was really hoping they'd find an actress who still had some of Heathers 'plainness', but instead they got another 'beauty queen' actress.

    Not surprised, but am disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlier00 View Post
    ^ Sean Bean is indeed in the film.
    Sweet, thanks for the confirmation. I love that guy, such a great actor. Perhaps we'll have another death to add to the highlight reel.

    http://youtu.be/zEhtsgu6bJg
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    Uhh, Wrathborne? I always thought Heather could be considered at least cute, despite her weathered, slightly aged look and half-modest/half-skimpy dress. You're nitpicking the fuck out 100 seconds of this, and while I wouldn't doubt that the film will turn out as good as your expectations, your initial problems with it are frivolous in my opinion. The nurses look fine, despite being SH2 inspired it's a necessity from this being a continuation of the first film. Plus, you're forgetting that with the first movie's lackluster turnout the budget wouldn't be generous for this. While I agree that casting directors should look out for talent and fittingness first and foremost, they want to attract an audience through an appealing looking lead girl. Video games (especially those developed before they became as blockbuster-oriented as films) and movies are two different ballgames.

    Plus, I find the idea of being not surprised but disappointed contradictory. Disappointment denotes something going against your expectations in a negative way, kind of impossible if your expectations lead towards the final result in the first place.

    When the movie turns out shitty however, I'll be the first to say "Howard Johnson is right!" in your general direction.

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    You can be not surprised and disappointed. Disappointment is going against your hopes, not your expectations. I hoped RE5 would be a good game, but I was not surprised it was a can of shit.

    Was the black-haired guy meant to be Vincent? I watched this minus sound. I recall him being cast as a young, pretty apparent love interest rather than his game persona (I guess he's getting the Dahlia Award for Least Sensible Character Change) but, still, that guy seemed...very wrong if he's meant to be Vincent.

    Nurses looked OK. Although I never got the whole they won't move unless you do thing.

    I seem to recall all the decent people in the crew, such as the original's director who seemed to love Silent Hill, being replaced with the writer's mates from various Anderson movies, so my hopes are pretty low really. This doesn't change much.

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    I always thought Heather could be considered at least cute, despite her weathered, slightly aged look and half-modest/half-skimpy dress.

    Heather in SH3 was proof that you didnt need to have a video game heroine look drop dead gorgeous. She just looked like a normal girl for the most part, how often do you find that in games? Rarely because in games all women are super models who are 'drop dead' most of, if not all the time.

    You're nitpicking the fuck out 100 seconds of this, and while I wouldn't doubt that the film will turn out as good as your expectations, your initial problems with it are frivolous in my opinion.

    I nitpick the fuck out of this because it looks bad. It looks really bad,The nurses act dumber than a bag of hammers, the make up on their heads just looks like they covered the actresses heads with silly putty.Same as the first film, the distorted warped faces dont look scary,they look silly. How can a live action movie with a budget of millions of dollars fail to make the same monsters from the games, look scary?

    I had some hopes for the fist film, even though I knew what I was getting into and that the story was changed because 'the games story is too confusing', but it was fucking horrible. Had the dumbest characters I've seen in years written and performances that made me cringe(mostly based off the horrible script).

    It was a boring film that looked like silent hill...but thats it.

    Plus, you're forgetting that with the first movie's lackluster turnout the budget wouldn't be generous for this.

    ...when is a 50 million dollar budget film making 97 million dollars gross lack luster? -_-
    Its not thet $130 million blockbuster that would have streamlined a sequel instantly, but this isn't a lackluster box office figure dude.

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    While I agree that casting directors should look out for talent and fittingness first and foremost, they want to attract an audience through an appealing looking lead girl. Video games (especially those developed before they became as blockbuster-oriented as films) and movies are two different ballgames.

    This just goes to show how shallow Hollywood is as well as how the audience is becoming because of it. An actress like Ellen Page would have been a great choice for heather because she similar qualities. Cute girl next door type who looks like a regular woman.Also helps that Ellen Page is a damn fine actress. This actress kind of has the 'girl next door quality' that Heather has...But not really. That's a real pisser, I knew someone like this would be cast, but it still is annoying as fuck.


    Plus, I find the idea of being not surprised but disappointed contradictory. Disappointment denotes something going against your expectations in a negative way, kind of impossible if your expectations lead towards the final result in the first place.


    My expectations aren't too high at all. Here are my expectations for a video game adaptation: Use the goddamn source material. Use the story, use the characters, use the monsters. You don't have to use everything, but at least 60% of whats been established in the game you're adapting, needs to be used for the film. The remaining 40% is yours to play with as a filmmaker.

    Worked for Mortal Kombat(only due to the MK developers helping write the script) everyone other game adaptation hasnt followed this rule and has failed because of it. Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Hitman, super mario brothers, the list grows.

    When the movie turns out shitty however, I'll be the first to say "Howard Johnson is right!" in your general direction.

    Mark your calender now. The story on this turd is worse because its Silent Hill 3...using the first films story as its background.We have the witch hunter cult back, and the guy that Heather is trying to save there? Thats Vincent, ya know, this guy.
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    I have an AA in film making dude, I know how to read a script and a film. I'm not just your average iffy video game fan who hates video game adaptations. I know my shit. Despite having a new director who has some potential as a story teller, no. Just no.

    This is going to be more of the same, it will have more action as this director likes his action(Solomon Kane 2009), its atmosphere will be on par with the first film,it might even have some more scares too, but the story is going to be a mess. Because hes using the same continuity from the first shit fest film, and that's the Achilles heel of this movie.

    Just because its going to be a little better than the first film, doesn't mean its going to be any good.

    Take my opinion with an extra grain of salt if you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathborne View Post
    I have an AA in film making dude, I know how to read a script and a film. I'm not just your average iffy video game fan who hates video game adaptations. I know my shit. Despite having a new director who has some potential as a story teller, no. Just no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kei_M View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kei_M View Post
    One scene. Full movie review.
    Glad you read the rest of what I said about why the film will fail and didn't focus on what I said about the half a scene clip that was posted, nice to have people not focus on one segment of an argument.

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    Meh, I've had a crush on Radha Mitchell since Pitch Black. I'm in I guess. Also, for da Bean.
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    "The executioner". Wat.

    Still wanna go to it though... But it's so far away! D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmoon View Post
    Was the black-haired guy meant to be Vincent? I watched this minus sound. I recall him being cast as a young, pretty apparent love interest rather than his game persona (I guess he's getting the Dahlia Award for Least Sensible Character Change) but, still, that guy seemed...very wrong if he's meant to be Vincent.
    Its Vincent. Michael Bassett thought that Vincent from the game, while an interesting character, would be a throw away character in the movie. He's trying to make him a more relevant character in the film.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathborne View Post

    Heather in SH3 was proof that you didnt need to have a video game heroine look drop dead gorgeous. She just looked like a normal girl for the most part, how often do you find that in games? Rarely because in games all women are super models who are 'drop dead' most of, if not all the time.

    You are making Adelaide Clemens seem like a drop dead gorgeous bomb shell. She isn't, she is cute though.
    So she doesn't have freckles or extreme under eye bags, is that really a big deal? Its not like Heather is ugly, she could look like this too if she just iced those eye bags lol.




    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathborne View Post
    This just goes to show how shallow Hollywood is as well as how the audience is becoming because of it. An actress like Ellen Page would have been a great choice for heather because she similar qualities. Cute girl next door type who looks like a regular woman.Also helps that Ellen Page is a damn fine actress. This actress kind of has the 'girl next door quality' that Heather has...But not really. That's a real pisser, I knew someone like this would be cast, but it still is annoying as fuck.
    Ellen Page would be considered by plenty of people to be drop dead gorgeous or the girl next door.

    What about Ellen would make her the better choice over Adelaide? Have you seen any of her work to make that claim? Adelaide seems to be a pretty good actress based on the few movies of hers I've seen. So I'm happy with the choice.

    As for looks, Adelaide herself isn't perfect. Her laugh lines, for example, can be pretty pronounced sometimes. She does have nice skin though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathborne View Post
    My expectations aren't too high at all. Here are my expectations for a video game adaptation: Use the goddamn source material. Use the story, use the characters, use the monsters. You don't have to use everything, but at least 60% of whats been established in the game you're adapting, needs to be used for the film. The remaining 40% is yours to play with as a filmmaker.

    Worked for Mortal Kombat(only due to the MK developers helping write the script) everyone other game adaptation hasnt followed this rule and has failed because of it. Street Fighter, Resident Evil, Hitman, super mario brothers, the list grows.

    Mark your calender now. The story on this turd is worse because its Silent Hill 3...using the first films story as its background.We have the witch hunter cult back, and the guy that Heather is trying to save there? Thats Vincent, ya know, this guy.
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    I have an AA in film making dude, I know how to read a script and a film. I'm not just your average iffy video game fan who hates video game adaptations. I know my shit. Despite having a new director who has some potential as a story teller, no. Just no.

    This is going to be more of the same, it will have more action as this director likes his action(Solomon Kane 2009), its atmosphere will be on par with the first film,it might even have some more scares too, but the story is going to be a mess. Because hes using the same continuity from the first shit fest film, and that's the Achilles heel of this movie.

    Just because its going to be a little better than the first film, doesn't mean its going to be any good.

    Take my opinion with an extra grain of salt if you will.
    You haven't looked up anything on this film have you? lol

    Michael J Bassett has said time and time again why he is doing what he's doing. He needed to make a sequel to the first movie, before all else. Silent Hill 3 is where he would need to go next, but he can't just ignore the first movie as much as some people would like that.

    The witch burning cult will be back.....for like 5 seconds. The Order is being brought in like they should have been in the first place. Claudia will be running that show.

    I don't know what changes he has made for Vincent yet, besides his age and look.

    From his blog he has said he is trying to make it as faithful as possible, but there are changes that had to be made so that it fits with the first movie's story. Guess we will see if they work when the films out in October.

    You have the right to not like the film, but there are explanations for why somethings aren't the way you expect them. Bassett, to me, seems like he is trying to fix some things wrong with the first movie. So I commend him on that.



    Anyways, here's a new picture. Looks like Heather is on a carousel. Spoiler:


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    Its Vincent. Michael Bassett thought that Vincent from the game, while an interesting character, would be a throw away character in the movie. He's trying to make him a more relevant character in the film.

    Yes, I already said this was Vincent. Relevant as in love interest relevant? Because thats where this appears to be headed.

    You are making Adelaide Clemens seem like a drop dead gorgeous bomb shell. She isn't, she is cute though.
    So she doesn't have freckles or extreme under eye bags, is that really a big deal? Its not like Heather is ugly, she could look like this too if she just iced those eye bags lol.


    "This actress kind of has the 'girl next door quality' that Heather has...But not really." -me

    Ellen Page would be considered by plenty of people to be drop dead gorgeous or the girl next door.

    So, by your opinion then?

    What about Ellen would make her the better choice over Adelaide? Have you seen any of her work to make that claim? Adelaide seems to be a pretty good actress based on the few movies of hers I've seen. So I'm happy with the choice.


    Lets see...Inception, Super, Hard Candy and Juno.

    As for looks, Adelaide herself isn't perfect. Her laugh lines, for example, can be pretty pronounced sometimes. She does have nice skin though.

    Your opinion, that's fine but this shows a lot of bias towards Heathers character design in SH3. Which is to this day, incredibly unique for a lead protagonist in a video game.

    You haven't looked up anything on this film have you? lol

    So when I said I was a guy with an AA in film who knows his shit, what makes you think I haven't checked IMDB a few times as well as read articles about the films development in some hopes that they would get their shit together this time around?

    Michael J Bassett has said time and time again why he is doing what he's doing. He needed to make a sequel to the first movie, before all else. Silent Hill 3 is where he would need to go next, but he can't just ignore the first movie as much as some people would like that.


    The first film was fuck awful, as an adaptation, and as a movie. It was flat, empty, boring and had some of the stupidest characters written on the screen I've seen in years. Using that story as a background for a sequel is just horrible. getting away with just referencing it is more than enough, but including the same stupid mother from the first film in the sequel is bad.

    The witch burning cult will be back.....for like 5 seconds. The Order is being brought in like they should have been in the first place. Claudia will be running that show.

    You haven't looked up anything on this film have you? lol Your words.

    Ok then, heres some facts for you:

    Claudia is played by Carrie Ann Moss, Claudia father is played by Leonard Malcolm McDowell. Both these characters are a big part of SH3s story(Leonard, not so much but hes back story important) both these actors are not people you;d cast for '5 se4conds' of film.


    I don't know what changes he has made for Vincent yet, besides his age and look.


    I'm not even sure you've played SH3 or know what you're talking about anymore. Vincent from SH3 is Claudias rival in the Order, unlike Claudia who is obsessed with creating paradise in the afterlife, Vincent is just interested in Carnal pleasure.

    Hes helping Heather defeat Claudia for his own purposes.

    This Vincent is most likely a love interest who is part of the order/witch hunter cult, who is going to betray Heather to the Cult and then try tosave her at the end, or is just going to betray her and get killed by Claudia anyways.

    From his blog he has said he is trying to make it as faithful as possible, but there are changes that had to be made so that it fits with the first movie's story. Guess we will see if they work when the films out in October.

    Never believe a director when they say this dude.This is a studio film, the studio is the one who tells him what to do. Hes only allowed so much creative freedom on the script.Unless this is an independent film and the director is also the producer and has a good budget saved up, hes going to conform to the studios demands.

    As for this being a faithful game...How? By just adding in more characters and Valtiel? Not likely. SH3 was a sequel to SH1, it used similar settings that all had meanings.

    The flaming carrousel? Pointless. Its just a special effect to look cool. But in SH1 its where Harry had to Kill Sybil(not sure if this was cannon or not) and it was also in the carnival(Dark Silent Hill) where Harry had to fight Sammael and the game had its finale. The games have a depth that the films never will in their environments.

    But the fact that the first film we had the DeSilva family, in which the father was left alone after his stupid wife killer herself and their daughter going 85 MPH in poorly unlit mountain roads in the first film, and now all of a sudden we have Heather and Harry Mason from the first game, which was the basis of the first SH film...how is this faithful? This sounds like a mess.

    You have the right to not like the film, but there are explanations for why somethings aren't the way you expect them. Bassett, to me, seems like he is trying to fix some things wrong with the first movie. So I commend him on that.

    So...you say I have the right to not like the film, but are challenging it with silly immature comments surrounded by opinions based off interviews by the director and your own guesses? Fine.

    I said before I do know what I'm talking about on these things, I may not know the industry in and out, but I do know how it operates. I've also been keeping up with this films development for the past few months, read up on Michael J Bassest IMBD page, watched some of his work, read some of the interviews you have and also keep an eye on what type of film this is starting to look like.

    And you know what? The outlook doesn't look good.

    Whats the one thing a studio pushes for when they get enough dailies and looped audio?
    They push for a trailer, they push to get a good looking trailer out fast because its an advertisement. You want as many people out there to know your product, and you want them to know as soon as possible.

    This film has been in production in some form, for about a year now. While it most likely will be due to making the film look 3d, the fact of the matter is, why is this film that's about 13 weeks away, not had a trailer yet? Not even a teaser?

    Even low to medium budget films get trailers and teasers cut as fast as they can, but this film is just now showing off a clip with 3 months to go. Thats incredibly suspicious, while it could be due to them still playing around with effects and stuff in post production, It still raises an eyebrow.

    Generally the 5-6 months away from release date is when a trailer is released, as a common practice is case anyone is wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrathborne View Post
    Its Vincent. Michael Bassett thought that Vincent from the game, while an interesting character, would be a throw away character in the movie. He's trying to make him a more relevant character in the film.

    Yes, I already said this was Vincent. Relevant as in love interest relevant? Because thats where this appears to be headed.

    You are making Adelaide Clemens seem like a drop dead gorgeous bomb shell. She isn't, she is cute though.
    So she doesn't have freckles or extreme under eye bags, is that really a big deal? Its not like Heather is ugly, she could look like this too if she just iced those eye bags lol.


    "This actress kind of has the 'girl next door quality' that Heather has...But not really." -me

    Ellen Page would be considered by plenty of people to be drop dead gorgeous or the girl next door.

    So, by your opinion then?

    What about Ellen would make her the better choice over Adelaide? Have you seen any of her work to make that claim? Adelaide seems to be a pretty good actress based on the few movies of hers I've seen. So I'm happy with the choice.


    Lets see...Inception, Super, Hard Candy and Juno.

    As for looks, Adelaide herself isn't perfect. Her laugh lines, for example, can be pretty pronounced sometimes. She does have nice skin though.

    Your opinion, that's fine but this shows a lot of bias towards Heathers character design in SH3. Which is to this day, incredibly unique for a lead protagonist in a video game.

    You haven't looked up anything on this film have you? lol

    So when I said I was a guy with an AA in film who knows his shit, what makes you think I haven't checked IMDB a few times as well as read articles about the films development in some hopes that they would get their shit together this time around?

    Michael J Bassett has said time and time again why he is doing what he's doing. He needed to make a sequel to the first movie, before all else. Silent Hill 3 is where he would need to go next, but he can't just ignore the first movie as much as some people would like that.


    The first film was fuck awful, as an adaptation, and as a movie. It was flat, empty, boring and had some of the stupidest characters written on the screen I've seen in years. Using that story as a background for a sequel is just horrible. getting away with just referencing it is more than enough, but including the same stupid mother from the first film in the sequel is bad.

    The witch burning cult will be back.....for like 5 seconds. The Order is being brought in like they should have been in the first place. Claudia will be running that show.

    You haven't looked up anything on this film have you? lol Your words.

    Ok then, heres some facts for you:

    Claudia is played by Carrie Ann Moss, Claudia father is played by Leonard Malcolm McDowell. Both these characters are a big part of SH3s story(Leonard, not so much but hes back story important) both these actors are not people you;d cast for '5 se4conds' of film.


    I don't know what changes he has made for Vincent yet, besides his age and look.


    I'm not even sure you've played SH3 or know what you're talking about anymore. Vincent from SH3 is Claudias rival in the Order, unlike Claudia who is obsessed with creating paradise in the afterlife, Vincent is just interested in Carnal pleasure.

    Hes helping Heather defeat Claudia for his own purposes.

    This Vincent is most likely a love interest who is part of the order/witch hunter cult, who is going to betray Heather to the Cult and then try tosave her at the end, or is just going to betray her and get killed by Claudia anyways.

    From his blog he has said he is trying to make it as faithful as possible, but there are changes that had to be made so that it fits with the first movie's story. Guess we will see if they work when the films out in October.

    Never believe a director when they say this dude.This is a studio film, the studio is the one who tells him what to do. Hes only allowed so much creative freedom on the script.Unless this is an independent film and the director is also the producer and has a good budget saved up, hes going to conform to the studios demands.

    As for this being a faithful game...How? By just adding in more characters and Valtiel? Not likely. SH3 was a sequel to SH1, it used similar settings that all had meanings.

    The flaming carrousel? Pointless. Its just a special effect to look cool. But in SH1 its where Harry had to Kill Sybil(not sure if this was cannon or not) and it was also in the carnival(Dark Silent Hill) where Harry had to fight Sammael and the game had its finale. The games have a depth that the films never will in their environments.

    But the fact that the first film we had the DeSilva family, in which the father was left alone after his stupid wife killer herself and their daughter going 85 MPH in poorly unlit mountain roads in the first film, and now all of a sudden we have Heather and Harry Mason from the first game, which was the basis of the first SH film...how is this faithful? This sounds like a mess.

    You have the right to not like the film, but there are explanations for why somethings aren't the way you expect them. Bassett, to me, seems like he is trying to fix some things wrong with the first movie. So I commend him on that.

    So...you say I have the right to not like the film, but are challenging it with silly immature comments surrounded by opinions based off interviews by the director and your own guesses? Fine.

    I said before I do know what I'm talking about on these things, I may not know the industry in and out, but I do know how it operates. I've also been keeping up with this films development for the past few months, read up on Michael J Bassest IMBD page, watched some of his work, read some of the interviews you have and also keep an eye on what type of film this is starting to look like.

    And you know what? The outlook doesn't look good.

    Whats the one thing a studio pushes for when they get enough dailies and looped audio?
    They push for a trailer, they push to get a good looking trailer out fast because its an advertisement. You want as many people out there to know your product, and you want them to know as soon as possible.

    This film has been in production in some form, for about a year now. While it most likely will be due to making the film look 3d, the fact of the matter is, why is this film that's about 13 weeks away, not had a trailer yet? Not even a teaser?

    Even low to medium budget films get trailers and teasers cut as fast as they can, but this film is just now showing off a clip with 3 months to go. Thats incredibly suspicious, while it could be due to them still playing around with effects and stuff in post production, It still raises an eyebrow.

    Generally the 5-6 months away from release date is when a trailer is released, as a common practice is case anyone is wondering.


    Good lord, you misunderstood so much of what I wrote its not funny.

    - That quote about the guy in the picture being Vincent wasn't directed at you, because I didn't quote you. So why you tried to acknowledge that you had "firsties" on saying it was him first, is beyond me. Anyways his supposed love interest role is hearsay at the moment till the film actually comes out.

    - When I asked if you had seen "her" movies to make that judgement about Ellen Page being a better choice, I meant Adelaide's films. Have you? (I'll admit my wording wasn't as specific as it should have, but I figured you have obviously seen an Ellen Page film since you brought her up)

    - So you are saying that its better to be judged on looks and not based on their acting ability? Because even if Adelaide's the better actress than some girl who looks like she hasn't slept in days with a million freckles, the other girl should get the part because she looks more like Heather. I'm really not trying to argue with you, but you make it seem like Hollywood hired some pretty WB generic "pretty" actress to play Heather. I think that is far from the case.

    - Ok, I get that you got an Associate's related to film, but it doesn't mean you are somehow more credible to discuss a game based movie than the rest of us.

    - "You haven't looked up anything on this film have you? lol Your words."

    Yeah, they are my words...

    I will say it now: The witch burning cult IS NOT The Order in the original film. They are two separate groups. Claudia will be in charge of The Order in this film. Leonard will still be her exiled Father. Bassett has stated this a few times already.

    Glad you know what actors are in the film though. IMDB and your Degree come through again

    - "I'm not even sure you've played SH3 or know what you're talking about anymore."

    Did you even read what I wrote? I said I don't know what changes he has made of Vincent in this movie besides his age and look....YET. Meaning I don't know what else he did to him besides those two things. He could be a traveling circus flunkie now for all I know. OR he could be in a similar role he was in the game. I can't say till the movie is out.

    - I'm taking Bassett at his word because what choice does anyone have? This is his first try with the series so I can only hope and pray for the best that he knows what he is doing. His other films have been ok, so I have no reason to fault him yet. Its not like its Paul Anderson and his "vision" of RE.

    - You do have a right to dislike the films, but I have to point out that sometimes what you post is wrong. Its a different story when all the facts are right.


    Also just to note, the original Silent Hill didn't get a theatrical trailer until about 3 months before it came out. Which is about the same time until this one does.

    And the reason for the film not being out so fast, was the lack of a distributor. Which Open Road films stepped up to plate for. Look at "Cabin in the Woods", took 3 years for Joss Whedon to find one.

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    The reason the film too so long to make was due to Christophe Gans leaving the sequel, followed by Roger Avery about 7 months later(and vehicular manslaughter). After that various names were attached to the project during its development hell.

    Glad you know what actors are in the film though. IMDB and your Degree come through again

    Yeah, its funny how going to college teaches you to do research.

    Did you even read what I wrote? I said I don't know what changes he has made of Vincent in this movie besides his age and look....YET. Meaning I don't know what else he did to him besides those two things. He could be a traveling circus flunkie now for all I know. OR he could be in a similar role he was in the game. I can't say till the movie is out

    And this is where I can say that I'm damn positive Vincent is a love interest character for Heather in this film. I could explain why, but in all honesty you wont care if I do or dont, so I wont get into it.So we'll just leave it at this, this is the same problem that the Resident Evil films have...They have someone called 'Jill Valentine' but isnt really like the character from the games at all. Just one or two basics from their personalities and that's it.

    I will say it now: The witch burning cult IS NOT The Order in the original film. They are two separate groups. Claudia will be in charge of The Order in this film. Leonard will still be her exiled Father. Bassett has stated this a few times already.


    Never trust what the director says, unless hes the writer, producer, and has 'final cut' of the film. While Basset is the writer as well as the director, he doesn't have final cut of the film. Thats the studios choice and if they want to cut out the 25 minutes of the film that explain everything and make sense, in exchange for more monsters thats their call. They also can do this to the script unless its locked.

    If the order is in this fine, but I highly doubt its going to be that close to what the order from the games is. Most likely there will be a huge goofy sacrificial ceremony with cultists praying to a giant statue of Valtiel, and that will be the studios compromise.

    Ok, I get that you got an Associate's related to film, but it doesn't mean you are somehow more credible to discuss a game based movie than the rest of us.

    I am more credible to discuss a game based movie,because its a game based movie. Its something I spent years learning. What you just said was "Just because you know more about movies, doesn't mean you're more credible to discuss movies". Would you say to Newsbot "Just because you can read Kanji, doesn't mean you're more credibly than we are when discussing translating Kanji"? Course not.

    I'm not going to say I know everything, because that's as asinine as Uwe Boll, but I know several story arcs and character types by heart now dude.
    This isn't just random speculation, its a formula. Once you learn to recognize formulas, you know whats coming before it happens on the screen. It takes a lot of the 'magic' out of movies when you know these things, but it makes filmmakers movies who think outside the formula and do their own thing, all the more special.

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