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    "Did he lie ver.2.0"... haha, wow. Pure gold.

    Yeah, seeing the 'one-click haxx0r', aka, hack.exe in a television show is especially annoying as hell. The producers of such nonsense are total morons if they expect people to actually believe that lame crap.


    Jesse... well... bad things always happen to good people, and I do believe this shows captures that harsh truth very well. It's pretty extreme, in his case, but still just a fucked up fact of life.

    Walter White is far beyond redemption. There's nothing he or anyone else can do for him to be redeemed, and it's been that way since season one. After all, he said it best: "If there's a hell, I'm pretty much going there." - at least he admits it.

    Yes, he is a horrendous human-fucking-being, a true monster... but still, he deserves his victory. I didn't fall in love with Walter White, hoping that he'd someday be nominated for a Nobel Peace prize.

    ...and the downward spiral continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGrass View Post
    Yeah, seeing the 'one-click haxx0r', aka, hack.exe in a television show is especially annoying as hell. The producers of such nonsense are total morons if they expect people to actually believe that lame crap.
    I see what you mean.. that two-way trojan on Vogel's laptop retroactively destroyed the previous seasons.

    I came across this Breaking Bad Gomez tribute image the over day, it made me laugh.. hard.. while also simultaneously invoking feelings of immense sadness. Amazing work. Rofl



    Poor Gomie!

    Oh, I think Walter will still try to redeem himself before being killed by "something". It can really go many ways, too much damn symbolism (in a good way, not Prometheus-like BS) in that last episode.. I see faces in everything... hard to predict what exactly is going to happen. Nothing will beat that last episode though IMO.

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    Quick rant on Dexter, being that it's been mentioned (Spoilers ahead):

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    Kind of got distracted there, but there's my opinion on it, I use to be a big fan but this Season really feels like a let down for me. As for Breaking Bad:

    I got to say, this season is getting more intense by the second. It's strange when you compare the Walter from the very first season to now, as mentioned in an interview, he's gone from geeky father to Scarface. I'm kind of expecting the "Say Hello to my Little Friend!" line, haha. Last episode was crazy though, totally a great cliffhanger for the next two episodes, I heard they're going to be longer.

    Also, they're going to auction all of the props from the show.

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    lol at that gomie picture!
    i'm just gonna get into this spoiler here lol:

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    Oh wow, what an episode and what a setup to the final episode.

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    Breaking Bad also won an Emmy in Best Drama

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    Wow, the ending of Dexter was complete shit.

    Breaking Bad is shaping up to be amazing though. The theme playing at the end of the last episode, god. Just amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdz View Post
    Wow, the ending of Dexter was complete shit.
    I respectfully disagree, sir.

    I'll be the first to admit that I was fairly disgusted with this season... but the final episode totally redeemed it, Dexter and the series as a whole. Also, the visuals and music were astounding.

    Everything that led to the final moments have been building up since the very first season, it's just sad to see that fellow fans failed to see that.

    Dexter arguably deserved the humanity he sought after, and the only sensible solution is self-imposed seclusion, isolation. After all, Dexter said himself, "I live my life in hiding" at the end of the first season. He yearned for true humanity, something that he thought was unattainable... and yet he finally realized that perhaps the only thing human about him is wanting to protect the ones he loved. Added to the long-past revelation that he is a psuedo-psychotic monster, it only makes sense to disappear.

    Furthermore, the realization that he can't truly deal with having a conscience ("All my life, I've wanted to feel what other people feel, but now that I do, all I want is for it to stop") only fueled his decision to leave Miami behind.

    He finally received the thing he sought after the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGrass View Post
    I respectfully disagree, sir.

    I'll be the first to admit that I was fairly disgusted with this season... but the final episode totally redeemed it, Dexter and the series as a whole. Also, the visuals and music were astounding.

    Everything that led to the final moments have been building up since the very first season, it's just sad to see that fellow fans failed to see that.

    Dexter arguably deserved the humanity he sought after, and the only sensible solution is self-imposed seclusion, isolation. After all, Dexter said himself, "I live my life in hiding" at the end of the first season. He yearned for true humanity, something that he thought was unattainable... and yet he finally realized that perhaps the only thing human about him is wanting to protect the ones he loved. Added to the long-past revelation that he is a psuedo-psychotic monster, it only makes sense to disappear.

    Furthermore, the realization that he can't truly deal with having a conscience ("All my life, I've wanted to feel what other people feel, but now that I do, all I want is for it to stop") only fueled his decision to leave Miami behind.

    He finally received the thing he sought after the most.
    I was about to post a similar thing well said. Nothing could save the season, but the ending, knowing it will turn out like that whenever you see a Dexter repeat or whatever, saves the series IMO. It also opens the door to either a darker new series with a new actor (pretty sure Michael Hall don't want to do it anymore), or some other sort of spin off.. "Dark Dexter" would be nice

    Though I'm pretty sure one reason Dexter turned out as it did was because of some idiots being influenced by the first few seasons (I vaguely recall Michael Hall mentioning something like that). He maybe didn't want his career heading in such a direction, which kinda makes me understand his bad acting a little more

    As for the finale itself, the storm coming in was pretty nice visually, though most of the story elements and characters matched the rest of the season, the ending made up for it.

    As for Breaking Bad I'd really love to see a Scarface ending with just all out mayhem haha. Walt could use his own product for the first time (I don't think he's tried it?) to make him go just psycho with that M60. Perhaps it will end how it started with Walt staring down the barrel while cops arrive, with his drug money all around him lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scream View Post
    Perhaps it will end how it started with Walt staring down the barrel while cops arrive, with his drug money all around him lol.
    Oh god, another Sopranos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdz View Post
    Oh god, another Sopranos.
    I never watched the Sopranos The "wrap around" ending would be a little predictable.. which is not Breaking Bad's style at all. I think Vince said all loose ends will be dealt with... there's also an alternate ending on the bluray (possibly a comedic one?).

    IIRC, Walt's father died on a hospital bed from some illness and he told that story to Walt Jr, wonder if that means anything.. It'll be interesting to see how Walt uses the ricin, will he use it on Jesse after "rescuing him"? The same way you would kill any other rat.. with poison..

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    i've heard some theories on the ricin going to lydia or even walt himself. i think walt might die of the cancer naturally though, that would be a happy ending to me because his time just ran out and it's not like anyone's caught him.

    i'm wondering what grey matter has to do with this story now, it really brings things around full circle bringing them up again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SinValentine View Post
    i've heard some theories on the ricin going to lydia or even walt himself. i think walt might die of the cancer naturally though, that would be a happy ending to me because his time just ran out and it's not like anyone's caught him.

    i'm wondering what grey matter has to do with this story now, it really brings things around full circle bringing them up again.
    http://tv.yahoo.com/news/breaking-ba...153505871.html

    Basically they added it because a dying kid suggested adding more background on Gray Matter.. not sure if that means they will be in the final episode or not. Probably not. I think Gray Matter just serves as a way to motivate Walt to fight for his legacy as Heisenberg rather than give it up and become nothing. I want to see the scene in the promotional photo with Walt and the stacks of money, addressing the nation on TV about who he has become, that would be kick ass and sort of a spin on the start of the series when he recorded his confession for his family.
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    wow, that was really nice of them to fulfill a dying boy's wish. now that you put it that way, it does make sense for gray matter to just serve as a reminder--because there's way bigger fish to fry for the last episode than gretchen and elliot imo lol. i wonder if the money will truly see it through to his family or not at the very end, i want to see what ingenious way he'll pull that off since mike didn't do so well at that kinda thing (granted walt is smarter than mike).

    i also think jesse's gonna live at the end--guess we'll know 2 days from now .

    i want to pick up another show after this one, not really sure which though--this one's hard to beat


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    Maybe he does it through the money Gray Matter mentioned ($28 million dollars to help the drug problem). Now that I think about it, it doesn't seem too insignificant a detail Not sure how exactly it would work but this is Heisenberg we are talking about - a guy who can take out people like Gus Fring. I'm pretty sure he will do something clever before dying.. that is after getting the money back in the first place.

    Not long now till we find out! Gonna open the whiskey early before watching it, I have a bottle of Wild Turkey ready for the finale, Mike's whiskey of choice

    I don't think I'll watch anymore TV shows after BB. Seen enough of them.. I'll finish Walking Dead (which kinda sucks at the moment). It helps to of seen a couple of TV shows in your life, but it reaches a point where it no longer does anything for you. Especially after the 10/10 that is Breaking Bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scream View Post
    Wild Turkey
    Excellent choice, mate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scream View Post
    I don't think I'll watch anymore TV shows after BB. Seen enough of them.. I'll finish Walking Dead (which kinda sucks at the moment). It helps to of seen a couple of TV shows in your life, but it reaches a point where it no longer does anything for you. Especially after the 10/10 that is Breaking Bad.
    I was kinda thinking the same, myself.

    I'll definitely finish Californication, which seems to have been dragging it's ass for years. The relationship between Karen and Hank is pretty stale, at this point, and there's only so many wild/crazy scenarios Hank can find himself getting into before it becomes "meh, again?".

    ...same for Walking Dead, but I haven't really enjoyed that show too much. The first season was decent, and then, the second season just went by sooooo sssllllloooowwwwllllyyyyy. And then, came that God-complexed, assface Governor. Ugghk.

    Other than that, I really don't care. I only like to watch tv on Sunday nights, anyways.


    As for Breaking Bad, I have no idea what's going to happen, but if it ends like The Sopranos, I will certainly be pissed off. And I definitely wouldn't be the only one.
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    walking dead has been disappointing me for a while now its sad because it had a lot of promise. i think you could recap an entire season in 1-2 paragraphs lol. but i'll still watch it, i don't know why... i guess i just hate leaving something unfinished

    i used to watch californication years ago but stopped; by what you've said up there mark, i take it hank still didn't get back with karen? is his daughter still the same? lol

    honestly, i'm looking forward to game of thrones, that's one of my favorite shows!

    and as for breaking bad, i should do something to celebrate the last ep too--the only thing coming to mind is meth, but i'm not that crazy maybe i'll just bake a pizza instead


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    Quote Originally Posted by SinValentine View Post
    walking dead has been disappointing me for a while now its sad because it had a lot of promise. i think you could recap an entire season in 1-2 paragraphs lol. but i'll still watch it, i don't know why... i guess i just hate leaving something unfinished
    Yeah. No point watching this far, and then just ditching it... but you mentioned a great point, "you could recap an entire season in 1-2 paragraphs".

    It's amazing that so much, yet so little happens in this series. It's a great human drama, but for the most part, people just talk. And talk. And then, they talk some more. It's so bad, the only things I really look forward to are when the group takes down a group of zombies... but even that has somehow lost it's charm.

    Quote Originally Posted by SinValentine View Post
    i used to watch californication years ago but stopped; by what you've said up there mark, i take it hank still didn't get back with karen? is his daughter still the same? lol
    Nope, not yet.

    In the last episode of last season, Hank had yet another epiphany while he was touring with a rock star and groupie-chick he shacked-up with, which led him back to Karen. The season ended on yet another cliffhanger, where he knocks on Karen's door, waiting for her to open/response.

    As for the daughter, she seems to be the same emo chick, only aged and a bit more mature. That, and she really doesn't get much airtime. Last season, she spent some quality time with Marilyn Manson (as himself), trying to learn life lessons.

    Same bullshit, different season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkGrass View Post

    It's amazing that so much, yet so little happens in this series. It's a great human drama, but for the most part, people just talk. And talk. And then, they talk some more. It's so bad, the only things I really look forward to are when the group takes down a group of zombies... but even that has somehow lost it's charm.
    agreed! and if it's not them talking, it's them taking up airtime staring off into the distance or showing them walking for a few minutes--last season seemed to do that a lot. my expectations for this season aren't very high, but who knows maybe there will be a come back the new season starts soon right?

    lol as for californication, i think hank's always gonna end up with karen anyway--i remember them having big commercials on "who will hank pick", though the choice was obvious to me. also, i think there's only so much sexcapades hank can do before it gets dull? i first started watching that show with a guy i was dating years ago, but to be truthful i was only watchin it for the softcore porn


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    Hmm, well that was kind of a boring, predictable finale to be honest. It didn't feel like Breaking Bad at all. It felt hurried and rushed.. They extended the run time yet filled it with junk - Walt waiting in the car while police go by, Jesse and his box, Skyler crying. So much filler.. Too much went unseen, like finding Hank's body etc.. This should of been over 2 hours easily. And too many plotholes - why would they let Walt drive in there lol, and especially without even checking his car properly for guns/explosives (they probably know he is dying of cancer I imagine, and that they have 70 mil of his money). I see they tried to make him more human than drug dealer, yet when he talks to Skyler he says "I did it for myself".. honestly, I would of preferred him going back to Heisenberg rather than Walt

    Oh well, overall the season was excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scream View Post
    I see they tried to make him more human than drug dealer, yet when he talks to Skyler he says "I did it for myself".
    Felt that was more or less a case of him more or less being in a conflicting state of realizing he actually enjoyed the success and thrill of it all and also realizing he'd put the blame for his actions onto his family by more or less saying he did it for them (which, of course, is true, but in telling them that ... they'll feel guilty/responsible for his actions.) -- So ... only "good" way out is to put blame back on himself.

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