Biohazard 2 Beta 2 Unlocked Debug Menu?

[ANDYARKLAY]

Borman, it will sounds a little bit crazy but why some preview/review builds are having so many of debug options (which are mostly useless for review), some builds having no debug or debug options and some got some reviwer-useful features like "infinity health" "room jump"? Is it depends on how much lazy devs were? I mean that it takes a time to delete folders unfinished rooms&delete some stages,fix bugs(like with bh 1 alphas).
And what do you think - bh 2 beta 2 was confedential "testers only" WIP or review build?

[Upaluppa]

Before you guys jump on him and to clear up the confusion, I believe Borman collects other protos besides RE ones. He's probably talking about those.

Thought so too...
Haha, every time people smell Resident Evil protos they go all crazy.

[Alzaire]

Before you guys jump on him and to clear up the confusion, I believe Borman collects other protos besides RE ones. He's probably talking about those.

Nearly half of the disks with debug options that I have has debug text displayed by default. And thats a lot of disks.

Nearly half of the disks with debug options that I have has debug text displayed by default. And thats a lot of disks.

Sorry what?

[Borman]

Nearly half of the disks with debug options that I have has debug text displayed by default. And thats a lot of disks.

[ANDYARKLAY]

but displaying random memory addresses and the like on the screen during gameplay is distracting more than it helps.

There are many press builds with useless "WIP only" features - its strange but it is a fact.

Or at least it should have been turned off by default.

Who said that it was not turned off by default?

[Ridley W. Hayes]

I don't understand what's the issue here. IGN didn't manipulate any kind of media to make it look like they had a build with some debug features. The thing seems pretty legit to me. The reason why would they turn the thing on/off before they get the pictures and the video is beyond me, as well as any of us.

The build is also a very close to the final game, and it's not the first time they got one of those. On the video provided by Biohazard_1995 (which actually dates from Jan 02, '98) you can notice that the big stuffed Bear that was on the Torture room on previous builds is no longer there. Although I'm aware it's not proof enough to say it's a later build, ANDYARKLAY pretty much have a accurate timeline on the build dates.

On the other matter, the one of the Claire full menu debug build, I haven't seen or heard it was actually legit. A lot of people think it is for the solely reason that there's a Leon one, so there should be a Claire one. Which is not actually a good enough reason. I could have missed some kind of proof posted in whatever forums in the past, so can anyone provide said proofs about its existence? For all I know there's only two more betas out there of RE2, one before and one after the one we all have. At least, as far as I know.

It's very possible they could of turned the debug info on for those pictures/videos... It seems weird that they would do that but it's still very possible.

The quality of this 2 Videos is (160X120) I download in 1999 (for free).The original upload Data was July 29, 1998.-
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Here is the Link 22Sec (Version Reencoding in 640x480) with normal audio.
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Wow, thanks!

Perhaps it's worth asking IGN? Is there any way to find out who was about back in those days?

[Upaluppa]

You have to think though, why would IGN need debugging features in a review build?

Exactly!
I can understand the Room Jump/Weapon Mugen/No Death etc. options but displaying random memory addresses and the like on the screen during gameplay is distracting more than it helps.

It does not belong into a press review build of a game. Or at least it should have been turned off by default.
(I doubt IGN triggered this stuff willingly through the debug menu for the sake of taking these screenshots)

The quality of this 2 Videos is (160X120) I download in 1999 (for free).The original upload Data was July 29, 1998.

I can't thank you enough for sharing all these things with us!
IGN decided it would be fun to restrict those video downloads to members only not too long ago.

[Biohazard 1995]

But where are these 2 videos? Does anyone here got them?

The quality of this 2 Videos is (160X120) I download in 1999 (for free).The original upload Data was July 29, 1998.-
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Here is the Link 22Sec (Version Reencoding in 640x480) with normal audio.
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trial edition(1997-08-06)<shared beta(1997-10-31)<this build(i guess december 1997)<final build (Released 27 Jan 1998)


it would be strange to receive this build in october 1997 and finish review in january 1998.


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So you don't have a claire "beta 2" build to compare features and possibly it just "different build with different features".

See my discussion with Alzaire earlier in thisd thread.

Will you please fix the link in your post? It's broken...

You have to think though, why would IGN need debugging features in a review build?

[Upaluppa]

So you don't have a claire "beta 2" build to compare features

Nobody I know of has any beta build with Claire's scenario.
Obviously all I got to compare these between two builds are the leaked "Beta 2" with Leon's scenario and IGN's footage of the other build which isn't exactly much.

What puzzles me is that IGN appears to be the only source of information about this beta on the entire net.

Doesn't it seem weird to you guys that none of the other game magazines/websites had any info on this?
IGN can't have been the only one out there to get a chance to play this build/obtain media of it from Capcom.
Usually preview discs and other media are given to numerous game critics all around the world, not just to one single media group.

[ANDYARKLAY]

trial edition(1997-08-06)<shared beta(1997-10-31)<this build(i guess december 1997)<final build (Released 27 Jan 1998)

2.01.98

http://psx.ign.com/dor/objects/504/r...page=mediaFull

so i guess it was december 1997 build

it would be strange to receive this build in october 1997 and finish review in january 1998.

A lot of what I'm hearing suggests it's earlier..

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The fact that this build has debug options not available in "our" beta makes hints at the possibility that Beta 2 is a later build than the IGN one.

So you don't have a claire "beta 2" build to compare features and possibly it just "different build with different features".