Thoughts on Heavy Rain

[valentinesdead?]

[QUOTE=WeskerIncarnate;125210]But if you pass a little sex scene (like the Mass Effect scandal. Fux News will forever be unwatchable for that.) with some tasty nudity, all of a sudden it's on every major news network.

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Eh, any news network would have pulled the same type of stunt. I actually saw it when the segement aired. Poor Geoff Keighly. But honestly, does anyone really expect most the people of any news network to be "in the know" about video games? IT's rather silly to saw "screw that network" when the bias is everywhere to begin with, and something that time will eventually fix, just lke rock n roll and comic books you can say. And besides, I don't watch Fox News for their video game accuracty.


(And yeah, that segement was WAY FUCKING RIDICULOUS! However drummed up that story shoulda been fired on the spot for such a ridiuclous item.)

[WeskerIncarnate]

Even more amusing about the sex in video games is just that. I've played a few LSL games. They are completely meant for nothing but raunchy humor. And yes...they are pretty damn funny in some cases. But they also seem to sexualize and objectify women. Sex in games like Mass Effect isn't different from what you'd see in an R or even PG-13 movie. It really is idiotic how people make a big deal over such a small thing.

Hmm...I've never played them, so I wouldn't know. But I definitely believe you.

And if parents weren't the lazy, irresponsible (redundant insult warning) douche bags that they seem to be, they wouldn't want to have certain games banned because their kid can't play it.

Parents have a lot of nerve to say ANYTHING regarding violent video games. Why should I not be able to play a game that allows me to kill people in violent ways because the parents of some 10 year old kid don't want THEIR kid playing it? Or have sexual relations with in regards to the game's story (e.g. Mass Effect and Heavy Rain. That game will lose much of its potential if parts are cut out. The developer is right to fight for the content he so freely created and put in it.)

Perhaps I'm getting a bit ahead of myself, as I'm only 14, but come on people. If you're so concerned about what your kids are playing, how about putting the minimal effort into MONITORING them occasionally instead of waiting for someone else to do it for you (banning a game).

Because when a game gets banned, it automatically is regarding the rest of us, no matter of age, as immature, naive brats who can't play a violent game without going out and killing someone (in which no correlations have been found so far anyway between video game violence and crime).

I could rant on this for days, man. I hate it so much.

This really gets me worked up...sorry.

Eh, any news network would have pulled the same type of stunt. I actually saw it when the segement aired. Poor Geoff Keighly. But honestly, does anyone really expect most the people of any news network to be "in the know" about video games? IT's rather silly to saw "screw that network" when the bias is everywhere to begin with, and something that time will eventually fix, just lke rock n roll and comic books you can say. And besides, I don't watch Fox News for their video game accuracty.


(And yeah, that segement was WAY FUCKING RIDICULOUS! However drummed up that story shoulda been fired on the spot for such a ridiuclous item.)

I don't like Fox News for many other reasons, but you're probably right.

I could imagine CNN or MSNBC dumping out a turd like that.

[REmaster]

^ AGREED. I don't understand why they would make a ratings system if they censor games anyways, M games are the same as R, obviously only adults can legally buy them so they should leave it at that. I'm almost 23 and everytime I buy a game the cashier cards me just for the security camera even though he sees me almost everyday lol...they might as well censor rated R movies while their at it because kids might somehow see them ( wouldn't suprise me ).

[WeskerIncarnate]

Well, if you were under 18 (note: the M rating is supposed to be for 17 and up), you could buy an M rated game so long as there is a person there of legal age. I couldn't have gotten Fallout 3 if my dad wasn't there to flash his I.D. card.

And you are exactly right. They make a ratings system, yet censor the games anyway? How much sense does that make, considering it is just as easy to watch such films without parents around (the internet and that barely turned 18 year old who is the brother of your friend, also underaged)?

And you shouldn't be surprised. At all.

And what REALLY gets me mad, is that they want to go so far as to censor sexuality in video games, which cost MONEY and won't have your average kid running into a Gamestop store by himself with 60 bucks in cash, whilst page after page of hardcore pornography is just one Google search away.

They know there is no way of stopping the internet, so they put their foot down on video games.

And I don't believe the UK is quite safe from this either...

[Darkmoon]

Well, we seem to get less of this stupid over these games than America does, but then again there was that game (Rule of Rose) where 'child' and 'abuse' were both mentioned, and so it was banned for child abuse...despite, as I understand it, only having the kids abuse the adult main character.

IT's rather silly to saw "screw that network" when the bias is everywhere to begin with, and something that time will eventually fix, just lke rock n roll and comic books you can say. And besides, I don't watch Fox News for their video game accuracty.

Here's the thing though...if they were to report 'Britney Spears inspires bank robbers' purely because someone wore a Britney mask to rob a bank they'd be shot. It would be even worse if they said she did it herself. So they research the story, check the facts, and make sure they're right...before spinning it out. With video games they don't seem to bother, they just stick it on the news and assume anyone who watches the show isn't likely to play games so they'll never know.

[WeskerIncarnate]

I stand corrected then. It would make sense that it is much harsher in America.

Which is why I got the PC version of Indigo Prophecy for easy un-censoring.

[Mr_Zombie]

If parents would actually follow the rating system and not pussy out when their kids whine and buy their 12 year olds M/18+ games, maybe people wouldn't have any need to bitch about mature content being in a mature game.

But then most of us couldn't have played RE games on PSX when they were released (I've played RE1 when I was 11)

And about media overreacting over sex in video games because they think games are for kids only... Few years ago, here in Poland, one TV station made a report about child sexual abuse in "Dragon Ball" manga . It was about the scene when Master Roshi asks Bulma (they were telling that Bulma is little girl, because she looks like one) to show him her panties, so she picks her skirt up and then remembers that she has forgotten to wear panties that day... or something like that. The funny thing about the report was how they kept showing little kids - I dunno, 4-6 years old - skimming through the manga with words "sex" constantly whispered in the background. I tell you, it was worse than the whole Fox News attack on ME :|.

[Bertha]

But then most of us couldn't have played RE games on PSX when they were released (I've played RE1 when I was 11)

That really wasn't the point I was trying to make. I was also just a kid when I first played RE. However, if a parent buys an M rated game for a child under 17/18 or whatever, it suddenly becomes the fault of the game and its creators for being too violent, sexual, etc. A parent should have the common sense to look at the rating, see what the game contains, and if in doubt, ask about it. I mean...we're living in the internet age. It doesn't take too much effort for someone to simply google a topic and read up on it. If they think the game isn't suitable for their child, then they shouldn't buy it.

Parents that buy mature games and then make complaints really have no one to blame but themselves. They weren't forced into a video game store and held at gunpoint to buy a game for their underage child. And if they did find it to be so bad, they should simply return it or sell it. There are mature young people and their parents don't care what they play.

I think the only game my mom had any misgivings about was some ultra violent fighting game (not Mortal Kombat), but she never once told me or my brother that we shouldn't play it. She just said that she didn't know they were making games to be so gorey (this was back in the 90's). I can't remember what game it was now. The only one that's coming to mind is Thrill Kill, but that wasn't ever released.

[nemesiswontdie]

I think the only game my mom had any misgivings about was some ultra violent fighting game (not Mortal Kombat), but she never once told me or my brother that we shouldn't play it. She just said that she didn't know they were making games to be so gorey (this was back in the 90's). I can't remember what game it was now. The only one that's coming to mind is Thrill Kill, but that wasn't ever released.

Killer Instinct?

[WeskerIncarnate]

That really wasn't the point I was trying to make. I was also just a kid when I first played RE. However, if a parent buys an M rated game for a child under 17/18 or whatever, it suddenly becomes the fault of the game and its creators for being too violent, sexual, etc. A parent should have the common sense to look at the rating, see what the game contains, and if in doubt, ask about it. I mean...we're living in the internet age. It doesn't take too much effort for someone to simply google a topic and read up on it. If they think the game isn't suitable for their child, then they shouldn't buy it.

Parents that buy mature games and then make complaints really have no one to blame but themselves. They weren't forced into a video game store and held at gunpoint to buy a game for their underage child. And if they did find it to be so bad, they should simply return it or sell it. There are mature young people and their parents don't care what they play.

You are correct. All the blame falls on the parent for purchasing the game in the first place.

I believe one mother had bought a game that was M rated for her kid, then returned it the next day wondering why they even exist and requested a full refund or some crap like that.

HELLO. THERE IS A RATHER LARGE M STAMPED ON THE GAME IN THE CORNER. CAN'T MISS IT.

All this unnecessary controversy around video games is a sign that games are just barely becoming a known part of pop culture and society and many people simply do not understand them. To be more broad, what society calls "geeky/nerdy". And from the looks of it, its got a long way to go to complete acceptance like movies and music.

I think the only game my mom had any misgivings about was some ultra violent fighting game (not Mortal Kombat), but she never once told me or my brother that we shouldn't play it. She just said that she didn't know they were making games to be so gorey (this was back in the 90's). I can't remember what game it was now. The only one that's coming to mind is Thrill Kill, but that wasn't ever released.

The only thing my mother has ever said regarding the games I play is that she doesn't understand WHY I play them. She thinks they're all about blood and gore.

I'm sure other parents shared this very skewed perception of violent video games. Most violent video games aren't violent to be senseless at all. It's a part of life, for crying out loud. For many games, it just HAS to be there (i.e. BioShock).

[Canas Renvall]

I find it hilarious that when my grandma watches me play stuff like The Umbrella Chronicles, my grandma on my mom's side asks me why I play that "silly, shoot-'em-up blood'n'guts" game. Then my grandpa picks up a Wiimote and we tear stuff up.

[aris13]

TGS 2009 Trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-heavy-rain/56577

[aris13]

Trophies and Death Interview

Interactive Story Interview

[WeskerIncarnate]

Could this game ever see a port to the 360 or PC?

I just can't shell out $300 for a PS3. Not now, not anytime soon either. Or will be like MGS4 in which porting it would apparently become too "hard" because of the PS3's bitchy Cell architecture?

[Mr_Zombie]

X360 - never, because as far as I know, Sony is sponsoring the game, so why would they publish one of their hottest exclusive game on rival's console?

PC - there might be a slightly chance, but I really doubt it. And it's not because of the Cell's architecture, it's because that's the reason exclusive titles exists - to "force" the customer to buy a console/PC they are released on.