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  • #46
    I dig The Horror Is Alive today, and it seems, to my surprise, some of the stuff I said were already discussed here: http://www.the-horror.com/forums/sho...-know-this-man . So I'm not the only one being ridiculous here.

    Anders, I need a link, the iso for the trade demo perhaps? It's funny because I already searched all over the internet, even the deep web, and I couldn't find it, even one of my friends who has a lot of beta from games that were never released publicly had it or knew anything about it. So... it would be amazing to proove with the actual game or build, not a screenshot. And like I said, I had no conclusive evidence regarding SH beta, since some people says exactly what you're saying, while others, don't.

    "Just because something ridiculous cannot be/ have not been disproven, does not automatically make it true." Such a nice excuse indeed. I already said I can't proove anything, and I said it's up to people to believe it or not. Now to tell me I'm lying, is different. I never said I was telling the truth, I said I believed in it thanks to my research. To send me links with faulty, unrelated or incomplete information and to tell me this is the proof, that's so ridiculous.

    Hum... Drake, I know you're not trying to treat me like some others, you're telling your point respectfully, and I appreciate it, really, thank you =) The thing is, people start calling me liar and I really feel bad about it. I mean, to call someone a liar you gotta prove the person is indeed a liar. Now, I don't have to prove anything, I never asked anyone to believe me, I only told my research. Then, after telling it, the point of this thread would be to know if my research brought correct facts with people showing some proof. I just want to search even more to know if the people I got information from were correct. I wish the Resident Evil community could help with that, but it seems it will not happen.

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    • #47
      You stated as fact that the Trade Demo was a very early build. That's why I told you to keep your lies to your self, because it has been said numeruos times on SH Community and SH Forum that the file date is 16-JAN-1999. But hey, no big deal, it's just a game.
      Last edited by Anders; 07-29-2014, 03:58 PM.
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      • #48
        All I will say is that the info you have provided about 3.5 (the elements that are correct) are years old and quite well known anyway. People who frequent this very site and its affiliates were the ones who discovered it in the first place.

        Some other elements you mentioned are just plain false.

        Basically if you don't even know your own sources are correct then why come on here and post it all? Surely you must realise why you're getting the criticism? You don't even know yourself whether you are lying or not.

        Also your 'source' about the RE5 beta has basically just taken public information from the Art of RE5 book and twisted it.
        Last edited by TheBatMan; 07-29-2014, 04:18 PM.
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        • #49
          This is why a Drunk History: RE 3.5 (and Drunk History: RE 1.5) would be hilarious, watch the bullshitters with their false sources spout their bullshit after 12 shots or so of hard liquor, then show a clip of News Bot throwing his hands up at the end. Everyone would be pissing themselves with laughter.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by MarvieT View Post
            It's funny because I already searched all over the internet, even the deep web, and I couldn't find it, even one of my friends who has a lot of beta from games that were never released publicly had it or knew anything about it.
            Proof that you're full of shit. Haha I love how you searched "the deep web", you treat it as if it were the briefcase from Pulp Fiction. You don't know what's inside but it must be something real awesome according to people who also don't know shit about it right? As if the deep web were a magical place where you could find the answer to every question, every line of code ever produced, all the ISO images for the much hoarded and unknown "betas" etc. when in reality it's a barely usable server network without knowing direct "urls", which in content are basically 99% drugs and child pornography.

            Believe it or not, I'm walking on air: I never thought I could feel so free. And don't give me shit if you don't believe it ok? I already said I can't proove anything, and I said it's up to people to believe it or not.
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            • #51
              C'mon Marvie, the research on the deep web make the situation even more hilarious
              You can't post some info regarding your source ?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by MarvieT View Post
                I dig The Horror Is Alive today, and it seems, to my surprise, some of the stuff I said were already discussed here: http://www.the-horror.com/forums/sho...-know-this-man . So I'm not the only one being ridiculous here.

                Anders, I need a link, the iso for the trade demo perhaps? It's funny because I already searched all over the internet, even the deep web, and I couldn't find it, even one of my friends who has a lot of beta from games that were never released publicly had it or knew anything about it. So... it would be amazing to proove with the actual game or build, not a screenshot. And like I said, I had no conclusive evidence regarding SH beta, since some people says exactly what you're saying, while others, don't.

                "Just because something ridiculous cannot be/ have not been disproven, does not automatically make it true." Such a nice excuse indeed. I already said I can't proove anything, and I said it's up to people to believe it or not. Now to tell me I'm lying, is different. I never said I was telling the truth, I said I believed in it thanks to my research. To send me links with faulty, unrelated or incomplete information and to tell me this is the proof, that's so ridiculous.

                Hum... Drake, I know you're not trying to treat me like some others, you're telling your point respectfully, and I appreciate it, really, thank you =) The thing is, people start calling me liar and I really feel bad about it. I mean, to call someone a liar you gotta prove the person is indeed a liar. Now, I don't have to prove anything, I never asked anyone to believe me, I only told my research. Then, after telling it, the point of this thread would be to know if my research brought correct facts with people showing some proof. I just want to search even more to know if the people I got information from were correct. I wish the Resident Evil community could help with that, but it seems it will not happen.
                You've gotten a considerable amount of help from news bot in this thread alone. Not that i'm kissing his ass either but he's been considerably kinder to you than other people i've seen get things wrong in the past. He has connections to the right people and hes proven it with info that matches up along with the occasional artwork thats not available to the public. You're starting to backtrack and act like you know your info might not have a leg to stand on when you started this thread acting like it was solid fact. Honestly theres no way theres someone who's this thickheaded and stubborn unless they were doing it on purpose.

                It's funny, you kind of remind me of an annoying bird who used to fly around these forums until he got banned.

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                • #53
                  Dude, I'm not a NB follower, but he has a website to backup virtually everything what he says, so even if he doesn't post links or whatever here to prove his point, most people here will take what he says as the truth. Not to mention Ridley W. Hayes and TheBatMan who also known a lot about RE and had shared a lot of useful info in all these years.

                  If it's up to people to believe or not, then you should be fine if people choose to not believe, as you can see some people will argue with you in a good manner, some others will be a dick, this allways happen. But you're not in the position to ask for proofs when you've said you can't share your sources, and you also said you got info from someone who has the 3.5, and that's almost impossible to believe. Many people in all these years claimed that they have either the 1.5 or the 3.5 (or have a friend who has it) and it turned to be a lie in every case, so it's natural if people don't believe that things anymore.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by News Bot View Post
                    I'm sure you have no malicious intent or are purposefully trying to lie, but you are just flat-out incorrect on almost everything you say due to in part to gullibility.
                    Now who is the gullible one? XD

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                    • #55
                      Thank you Lanzagranadas, you've been very kind. Oh btw, I'm a girl u.u lol Indeed you're right. It's been quite sometime, after reading this old topic again after so long I feel sad some people misunderstood me. The intention I had when I created this topic was never to spread false information, I just wanted to shed some light to this beta and its obscure plot. What I posted here was the result of some long research I've made in the past with a friend who lives in Japan where we discovered some info regarding this beta. The info we discovered however, was never meant to be concrete facts, and many of them might be wrong, since we could never find any one willing to share their sources. However, we indeed found a person who claimed to have a copy of the beta, and another who gave detailed information about other elements from the unreleased game. I honestly believe on the people who gave me these information, however, in the end, everything is only speculation since we never had any solid proof. That's why I wanted to share this information with the fans, even if some things are false about this topic, it would be very good for the RE community if there was people willing to proove those things to be wrong with solid stuff. However, many people criticised me for my actions instead of giving definitive proof that the things I said were not right. Me, as a genuine fan of this series, only want for people to discuss in a healthy way about this topic I created and like I said shed some light into this amazing unreleased game. I'm not a troll and it is really very sad some people made allusions of banning me from this site only because I wanted to debate about what is really true and wrong about this beta. Anyway, it doesn't affect me, I'm just sad to know there are fans out there not able to discuss about this game in a concrete way.
                      Last edited by MarvieT; 03-07-2015, 09:20 AM.

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                      • #56
                        In regards to the plot, we already know the majority of the Castle version's scenario, while the Hallucination version never had a plot.
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                        • #57
                          Oh I see. I've heard even without a plot, the Hallucination version had some ideas behind the backgrounds and scrapped concepts, like I said previously in this topic. A friend of mine said she heard that all the versions for this beta was actually in the same disc, what do you think about that, is this really truth?

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                          • #58
                            The Hallucination version was just a very short test of different approaches to horror, there was nothing really in it. Games can't be developed on the same disc.
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                            • #59
                              I see, to be honest I'm not sure if I believe there was only a disc either, however I do believe the later versions included the earlier ones on the disc files, just like I've been told. Hum, as you might be familiar with, a staff from CAPCOM said there was no plot, but even so, when you're a game creator, it feels weird for a game not to have at least a concept, specially because they already failed in what later became DMC. I think he meant by that, that there was only some few scattered ideas about what the game would be at that point, and they later developed those ideas in the next betas. Even without a plot, the concept of escaping from the Hooked Man is present, and the hallucination etc. There was even a trailer.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by News Bot
                                In regards to the plot, we already know the majority of the Castle version's scenario
                                I've always wondered what was the plot for this game.

                                You said Spencer didn't appear in that game. There was no Ada appearently. All we know is that HCF attacked the castle with some kind of early version of Uroboros, right ?
                                Also, I always thought that this game was a big step toward the fall of Umbrella, but it seems that it's not really the case afterall. I mean, Spencer was not going to be the final boss and all.

                                So my questions are : Aside from Leon, were there other returning characters in that game ? And, to be frank, is the final version of BIO4 that much of a departure from the mythology as how it appeared back then ?

                                Because I'm starting to think that the plot wasn't going to be that important or, should I say, interesting in the castle version. With the few information we have now, I've got the impression that the story was running in circles...
                                Last edited by Grem; 03-07-2015, 01:26 PM.

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