Darkside Chronicles Character Discussion.

[Sly]

^This.

Using the original (let alone the uncut original) as a source is pretty silly. It has little relevance to the series as a whole at this point.

Saying that an information that's never been refuted up until now, as far as we know, is wrong just because you feel like it's not relevant anymore... that's what I find silly.

[Grem]

At the end, no RE character, male or female is a smoker.

The random spanish officer from RE4, Luis Sera and Javier Hidalgo are smokers, actually

Chris was changed from a somewhat rude -TSBB- and rebel guy for a guy with high principles and values with a strong sense of duty... and a no smoker. Yes, he was supposed to be one on the beginning, but that was changed... even in Code Veronica, Chris attitude was differente

Even today, Chris is a rebel.

He knocked a police officer in order to get a valid reason to be suspended from his functions at the police station (Jill's RE3 diary). He took actions on his own against Umbrella at the time of CV even though he was not a part of any organisation anymore, which is pretty much illegal. He then joined forces with an underground containment unit in 2003 and ignored BSAA's order to retreat in order to save Jill in RE5. Not a rebel anymore? I don't think so
As for the smoking thing, there's not a single element in the games that proves Chris became a non smoker. So, when I see all these pictures showing Chris smoking, even if it concerns the original RE, I assume that he is a smoker.

Chris never changed IMO

Back to DSC, I wonder if Manuela will mutate? That way, she will be the tragic character for the new scenario, just like Steve is for the CV scenario for instance.

[Ridley W. Hayes]

With REmake, Chris was changed from a somewhat rude -TSBB- and rebel guy for a guy with high principles and values with a strong sense of duty... and a no smoker. Yes, he was supposed to be one on the beginning, but that was changed... even in Code Veronica, Chris attitude was differente. At the end, no RE character, male of female is a smoker.

As News Bot said, pretty much all the lighters and stuff like that are meant to be symbolic for a certain character in the series.

[Grem]

But then you assume that the original RE1 takes precendence over... what, every other appearance of Chris? Not only the original, but the UNCUT version? Thats quite a diluted source.

Chris smoked in the first RE because Mikami at the time might as well have been 15 years old, and Chris was the typical "rebel". However, he is far from a "rebel" anymore. His history has been changed to remove any notion of that from his personality. He wasn't kicked out of the USAF anymore, he was discharged on good terms. Chris smoking is a remnant of his rebel phase which never happened.

Well, there's an RE1.5 artwork that shows Chris and Joseph smoking. I know, it's RE1.5, but it pretty much means that, even after the original RE1, Chris was a smoker in the developpers' minds.

I think that, not showing the main character smoking, has more to do with censorship than with the possible personality changes. At least, in my opinion

RE1.5 artwork

[Becky's Butt]

Uhh, you really missed the entire line if you think it's some other gum.

Silly me. Here it sounded totally like a random throwaway response but I guess we should read things into it anyway.
He just said "got gum" Saying it's nicotine gum is just pointless speculation. Really pointless.

[News Bot]

... so he did smoke. He also smoked in the uncut "sad" ending, IIRC.

But then you assume that the original RE1 takes precendence over... what, every other appearance of Chris? Not only the original, but the UNCUT version? Thats quite a diluted source.

Chris smoked in the first RE because Mikami at the time might as well have been 15 years old, and Chris was the typical "rebel". However, he is far from a "rebel" anymore. His history has been changed to remove any notion of that from his personality. He wasn't kicked out of the USAF anymore, he was discharged on good terms. Chris smoking is a remnant of his rebel phase which never happened.

Using the original (let alone the uncut original) as a source is pretty silly. It has little relevance to the series as a whole at this point.

[DarkMemories]

Okay for Leon, you have sources to back it up so I won't argue.

And if his reason wasn't enough for you: are you forgetting that Leon specifically refuses cigarettes offered to him by the police officers who take him to the village?

[aris13]

... so he did smoke. He also smoked in the uncut "sad" ending, IIRC.

Bingo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YilZg7oOKRc

[Sly]

Chris never smoked, except in concept art and the uncut RE1 intro.

... so he did smoke. He also smoked in the uncut "sad" ending, IIRC.

And there is absolutely no reason to believe Billy smoked.

There's no reason to believe he does not either. I think that if he has robbed a lighter from his guards, then he intended to use it. But maybe he took it because it was shiny, I guess it's up to your personal taste.

Okay for Leon, you have sources to back it up so I won't argue.

[News Bot]

Of course Leon smoked, he had a lighter, like Chris and Billy, who did smoke too. Typical (male) action heroes smoke, if you don't smoke you don't have a lighter, simple as that. Leon probably really had gum too : Americans always have gum, it is an old cliché, one that would certainly make Saddler giggle.

Chris never smoked, except in concept art and the uncut RE1 intro. I suppose you assume Claire smoked too because Chris handed her a lighter at some point? And there is absolutely no reason to believe Billy smoked.

And Leon's Japanese biography explicitly states that the lighter is a memento of his father, and he does not smoke.

The lighters in the games are mementos or keepsakes, they're symbolic in the series.

Who said anything about nicotine gum? He just said gum. Maybe he had a thing of Juicy Fruit for all we know.

Uhh, you really missed the entire line if you think it's some other gum.

[Sly]

Of course Leon smoked, he had a lighter, like Chris and Billy, who did smoke too. Typical (male) action heroes smoke, if you don't smoke you don't have a lighter, simple as that. Leon probably really had gum too : Americans always have gum, it is an old cliché, one that would certainly make Saddler giggle.

[Det. Beauregard]

Though personally I always thought Leon was joking. He had neither.

I have to agree. It's not that the line itself was bad, but rather Leon's cocky delivery of the line.

[Becky's Butt]

Leon doesn't smoke in general and never has. Having nicotine gum (primarily used to get OFF smoking cigarretes) is just stupid.

Though personally I always thought Leon was joking. He had neither.

Who said anything about nicotine gum? He just said gum. Maybe he had a thing of Juicy Fruit for all we know.

[Bianca]

True that.

All right, I feel slightly better now. Hopefully it'll all stay intact in the game. Thanks for the input, guys.

[News Bot]

What the heck is wrong with this line? Luis asked for a cigarette, Leon didn't have one so he offered a healthy alternative.

Leon doesn't smoke in general and never has. Having nicotine gum (primarily used to get OFF smoking cigarretes) is just stupid.

Though personally I always thought Leon was joking. He had neither.

I'm hoping it's a mistake on this Twitter campaign and not something that they've changed in Darkside Chronicles. It'd really bother me if they rearranged that, for the reasons I listed before. I mean, I know they are going to change things around, just as they did in Umbrella Chronicles, but something like this seems to do more harm than good, at least in relation to Steve's character.

I'm pretty sure its just a minor error or an on-purpose in-character mistake on Claire's part. It also says that Steve's dad was killed along with his mom which is just blatantly incorrect, evidenced by Darkside itself.

That, and "blowing the whistle" still works if its to another organization.