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  • Originally posted by LVL100 Merchant View Post
    While I agree with a lot of your points, your example of Dead Space as a good third person horror game is ridiculous. The Dead Space games are good because they're fantastic action games. The series is not an ounce scarier than RE4 or 5, it's just a lot louder and a lot gorier, which just makes for a more annoying, juvenile experience. The fact that it tries SO HARD to be scary just ultimately makes it disengaging. And in Dead Space, Isaac is just as empowered as Leon, Chris, or Sheva, and he uses even more over the top weaponry. Isaac definitely "feels" more fragile since there are a lot of sequences that put him on the ground and try to help emphasize his mortality and vulnerability (and any finishing blow will result in him falling on the floor in at least three separate pieces, which just looks goofy), which is good, but is ultimately just window dressing on a game that is fundamentally the same as RE4 and 5: a third person shooter with horror elements.
    Different strokes for different folks haha. I thought Dead Space nailed the horror atmosphere much better and at least made an attempt, while neither RE4 or RE5 got close to achieving any semblance of horror (aside from very, very isolated segments).
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    • I have to agree with Merchant here.

      I got ZERO scares from Dead Space, Hell i even got the platinum for the game.

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      • And I still say that RE4 is as much a horror game as any of the games in the series that directly preceded it. If I were being honest, however, I'd say that only Remake or RE retain any real sense of horror on subsequent playthroughs. The other games, RE4 included, kind of fizzle out with more play (RE0, RE3, RE4) or become laughable as time goes on (RE1, CV). It's really only RE5 that never had anything close to horror - even the Licker segements are more frustrating than scary.

        My opinion on the scare level of Dead Space has always been much like The Merchant's ; the horror is window dressing (mutilated bodies and gore) on an otherwise action-packed thriller.
        Last edited by DarkMemories; 01-11-2012, 09:14 PM.
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        • New multiplayer trailer, now with Crimson Heads.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=LqsbQa9Mf7c

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          • Originally posted by DarkMemories View Post
            And I still say that RE4 is as much a horror game as any of the games in the series that directly preceded it. If I were being honest, however, I'd say that only Remake or RE retain any real sense of horror on subsequent playthroughs. The other games, RE4 included, kind of fizzle out with more play (RE0, RE3, RE4) or become laughable as time goes on (RE1, CV). It's really only RE5 that never had anything close to horror - even the Licker segements are more frustrating than scary.

            My opinion on the scare level of Dead Space has always been much like The Merchant's ; the horror is window dressing (mutilated bodies and gore) on an otherwise action-packed thriller.
            How the hell RE4 has horror? i was laughing the entire time.

            Damn cant see the new MP Trailer right now.

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            • Originally posted by Vito View Post
              How the hell RE4 has horror? i was laughing the entire time.
              Let's put it in very simple terms.

              Whether you understand it or not is irrelevant - but Resident Evil 4 and Resident Evil 5 ARE horror. That's irrefutable.

              Whether they're scary though is another subject.

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              • Hi-res pictures of Spec Ops (EDIT: Complete with character bios)

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                Shona: Exposed to death at a young age, Lawrence ‘Shona’ Kimbala began treating diseases in his home country of Zimbabwe. After his father’s death, he attended Harvard medical school where he realized he had a skill for controlling viruses instead of curing them. He joined the Army’s special weapons program as their foremost expert in virology.
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                Willow: Caroline ‘Willow’ Floyd developed her skill for speed and elusion growing up alone on a reservation in Montana. She joined the Army straight out of school, excelling as part of the Special Forces. Never satisfied with herself, Willow continues to hone her skills each and every day.
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                Tweed: Marissa ‘Tweed’ Ronson has a quick tongue and a ready fuse. Originally working for the British Secret Service, she disappeared after a bomb removal operation left her scarred. Hand-picked by the government, Tweed became part of Echo Six because of her unparalleled expertise in demolitions.
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                Dee-Ay: Crispin ‘Dee-Ay’ Jettingham has been a soldier for as long as he can remember. He was the government’s top choice to be the leader of the Echo Six team. Always calm and collected, he is a true soldier and is highly skilled and efficient with his weaponry and his orders.
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                Harley: A foul-mouthed ex-biker, Erez ‘Harley’ Morris joined the service to avoid going to jail. Excelling in medicine during operation Desert Storm, Harley unexpectedly became one of the best medics in the field. Always putting other’s lives before his, he will always do his best to make sure no man is left behind.
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                Party Girl: Sienna ‘Party Girl’ Fowler got her reputation throwing wild parties in her youth for businessmen and officials. Little did they know that every party she threw was also recorded with hidden equipment, which would be sold to the highest bidder. The government hired her after she managed to dupe their top surveillance expert at one of her parties.
                Last edited by Smiley; 01-13-2012, 03:14 AM.

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                • Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City has 70 Achievements. View the full Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City achievement list at XboxAchievements.com.


                  Achivement list, beware some achievement names containt slight spoilers to overall plot. Though is the same thing that happens in all RE games one way or another.

                  Maybe of note they refer in descriptions as "the USS campaign". Suggests possibility of another campaign, Spec Ops maybe.
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                  • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
                    http://www.xbox360achievements.org/g.../achievements/

                    Achivement list, beware some achievement names containt slight spoilers to overall plot. Though is the same thing that happens in all RE games one way or another.

                    Maybe of note they refer in descriptions as "the USS campaign". Suggests possibility of another campaign, Spec Ops maybe.
                    This is great news. I honestly like the Spec Ops a lot more so hopefully we'll get to play as them in a campaign mode.

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                    • Originally posted by Smiley View Post
                      Hi-res pictures of Spec Ops (EDIT: Complete with character bios)

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                      Shona: Exposed to death at a young age, Lawrence ‘Shona’ Kimbala began treating diseases in his home country of Zimbabwe. After his father’s death, he attended Harvard medical school where he realized he had a skill for controlling viruses instead of curing them. He joined the Army’s special weapons program as their foremost expert in virology.
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]5960[/ATTACH]
                      Willow: Caroline ‘Willow’ Floyd developed her skill for speed and elusion growing up alone on a reservation in Montana. She joined the Army straight out of school, excelling as part of the Special Forces. Never satisfied with herself, Willow continues to hone her skills each and every day.
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]5961[/ATTACH]
                      Tweed: Marissa ‘Tweed’ Ronson has a quick tongue and a ready fuse. Originally working for the British Secret Service, she disappeared after a bomb removal operation left her scarred. Hand-picked by the government, Tweed became part of Echo Six because of her unparalleled expertise in demolitions.
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]5962[/ATTACH]
                      Dee-Ay: Crispin ‘Dee-Ay’ Jettingham has been a soldier for as long as he can remember. He was the government’s top choice to be the leader of the Echo Six team. Always calm and collected, he is a true soldier and is highly skilled and efficient with his weaponry and his orders.
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]5963[/ATTACH]
                      Harley: A foul-mouthed ex-biker, Erez ‘Harley’ Morris joined the service to avoid going to jail. Excelling in medicine during operation Desert Storm, Harley unexpectedly became one of the best medics in the field. Always putting other’s lives before his, he will always do his best to make sure no man is left behind.
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]5964[/ATTACH]
                      Party Girl: Sienna ‘Party Girl’ Fowler got her reputation throwing wild parties in her youth for businessmen and officials. Little did they know that every party she threw was also recorded with hidden equipment, which would be sold to the highest bidder. The government hired her after she managed to dupe their top surveillance expert at one of her parties.
                      I aprove this !!
                      :3

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                      • Originally posted by Dracarys View Post
                        http://www.xbox360achievements.org/g.../achievements/

                        Achivement list, beware some achievement names containt slight spoilers to overall plot. Though is the same thing that happens in all RE games one way or another.

                        Maybe of note they refer in descriptions as "the USS campaign". Suggests possibility of another campaign, Spec Ops maybe.
                        I'm sure there's a Spec Ops campaign, and I'm sure it's being intentionally withheld from the retail version to include later as DLC. That's just how these companies operate now. Why else wouldn't there be achievements for a Spec Ops campaign? And even if there is a Spec Ops campaign, I'll bet it's just the same maps recycled.

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                        • Just watched the multiplayer trailer...

                          Someone tell me the Raccoon Hospital features is the back entrance.... Why the fuck would they change the geography established in the main titles? It's shit like this which irks me when it's so fucking easy to do. They even had that geography created for Outbreak for crying out loud.
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                          • They can't even get the right time period for the cars and guns. You think they'll bother trying to get the geography right? Frankly, at this point you're lucky it's still called Raccoon City and not Beaver Town.

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                            • Originally posted by Darkmoon View Post
                              They can't even get the right time period for the cars and guns. You think they'll bother trying to get the geography right? Frankly, at this point you're lucky it's still called Raccoon City and not Beaver Town.
                              Please tell me there hasn't been a porno titled Beaver Town yet.
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                              • ...I can't imagine they haven't. They've done everything else.

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