1.5 Status Update

[surgicalhorror]

You don't know when to stop, do you. Your a fucking asshole. Go be an hero for the good of mankind.

[Stu]

It isn't about obliging help to ME, Big stu. This isn't about ME.

You're clearly the most vocal about your disdain for anyone in posession of the beta though, so obviously you're representing the whole of the community. How do you not see that?

I should stop while I'm ahead

Yes. You do that

[surgicalhorror]

It isn't about obliging help to ME, Big stu. This isn't about ME. This is about the community that wants Biohazard 1.5, it's about what the public wants to that extant and the refusal to disclose something decent to the public and thereby hiding behind a veil. It's not about obliging it to me, it's about obliging it to people like the Bioflames community. You say everything under the guise of friendly advice but your intentions are neither good nor friendly. Anyway, I should stop while I'm ahead as you have managed to really piss me off.

[Stu]

Rather than rip everything you say to shreds with my eyes closed, perhaps you could just answer me one question?

These people are idiotic, sociopathic, liars.

So tell me, if they read this now, why would they ever want to oblige and help people like you who pass judgement whilst the only thing you think you know of them is formed on the basis of your amateur pyscho-analysis?

You have consistently attacked me and I no longer find this funny.

It's there for all to see that i've offered you friendly advice from the beginning actually.

[surgicalhorror]

Big Stu, your constant choice to flamebait me is getting very tiresome. At first, I thought our little duet/play was innocent and quite hilarious. You have consistently attacked me and I no longer find this funny. Do not tell me how to choose my words although I could say you should take your own advice, some of your own medicine for once, but that would be hypocritical on my part. I don't appreciate you bringing up my donation/pledge all the time either. I never said this had anything to do with the divine, so don't bring God/gods into this. You were the first one here to mention the divine and I'd appreciate it if you left the divine out of this.

[surgicalhorror]

Ok Big Stu, you have your opinion. Those are not facts. The only fact is that the people who possess the betas are not GOOD people. They obviously do not believe in the principle of truth or disclosure to the public. The whole legal rap you keep repeating is merely an excuse. If a random torrent of a beta were given or to just pop up, there is no way of tracing it. The only way these things could be traced is either through confession of the person who leaked it or if they work for Capcom, Sony or associates. The people who leaked Manhunt 2 uncut for example were Sony employees. These people are idiotic, sociopathic, liars. They have misled people like Dot, Alzaire, etc. over and over and over again. They are absolutely shady and THIS is what gives me the right to judge if they are decent or not. Liars, misanthropes, antisocialites, sociopathy, etc. You are not gonna convince me or anyone else they are decent people given the shady behaviour they have exhibited. Nice try, but you can keep your so called "facts".

[Stu]

I'm a firm believe in the whole dark cloud/silver lining bullshit, so the best way to look at things here Dot is that we (the RE community) can regroup and perhaps make a better effort next time around?

Like a few of us have noted during this round, and as i'm sure you can appreciate, the timing couldn't have been much worse what with Christmas in a few days and family taking priorities...but i imagine a good few more people will be willing to chip in on future investments. Who knows, perhaps word could be spread a little further afield and we could gather up some sort of total that no one could possibly refuse?

We just have to hope someone with a Beta realizes the fame to be had by releasing their copy.
Why does something so valuable have to fall into the hands of sociopaths?

we would have to wait until a decent human being came into posession of it rather than the misanthropes and antisocialites that currently have it.

What a load of rubbish. Again

What gives you the right to question whether a person is decent enough?

I'm sure whoever does have it has good reason to not be releasing it to the public, not to mention the legal minefield that will probably go with it!

What has fame got to do with this? If you're so willing to sell them short and criticise them for not replying to any emails this time around, why would anyone want to come forward in the future if the community is willing to be this short sighted towards an outside?

And this isn't flamebaiting by the way, just cold hard facts. What message does it give out to the person who might be willing to sell this in future if their decency is already being called into question? Making your donation doesn't give you any devine right to criticise anyone surrounding the project, so perhaps choose your words a bit more carefully next time.

[LeonsBuddyDave]

We just have to hope someone with a Beta realizes the fame to be had by releasing their copy.
Why does something so valuable have to fall into the hands of sociopaths?

[SeiyaKou]

As a non-radical dreamer I still believe in this deal... Let's wait patiently and check ebay/yahoo.japan everyday!

BTW Merry Christmas everyone !

[surgicalhorror]

Thank you for the update, Dot. It has become readily apparent that the situation with Biohazard 1.5 is hopeless. Although several people or a dozen people have versions of it, we would have to wait until a decent human being came into posession of it rather than the misanthropes and antisocialites that currently have it. Once it gets into the hands of a decent person, they will surely disclose it to the public and their name will go down in Biohazard history. Plus, they will be popular (at least with me and everyone I know). Fame is a good thing.

[Gradon]

Well, this is a good thing then, think about it, we could get contact back around spring next year, that means that more people will be more into pledging, and thats good for us all, this is a good and a bad thing, but contact will regain soon. Hopefully.

[abbatoo]

Damn.
But I still wonder if WeskerWalker was telling the truth when he said that it will be going on sale sometime in the near future...
Anyway, my pledge still stands. Fortunately I already bought everything I need for Christmas, so I'll just put the money I saved into my 1.5 donation box.

[Dot50Cal]

No.

[surgicalhorror]

Are there other leads to follow?

[Dot50Cal]

Theres a lot of different builds, but the ones we have seen/confirmed to exist are the ones we list. I think Alzaire has around 5 unique builds ID'ed. All based on different times when it was shown.