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I like how right in the middle of a heated debate, Zombie turns up and is all, "sup guys, trailer. Go watch k?"
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Don't you think you're overreacting just a bit?
I imagine the reason why they've been showing Leon is because they really want to demonstrate to people that they're serious about killing popular characters in this game. Right now, about the only character who is arguably more popular than Leon is Wesker, and we know that he wasn't even in Raccoon City at the time.
If you can kill someone like Leon, then it proves that everyone is fair game. Saying, for example, that you could kill someone like Ada or Sherry, it probably wouldn't be that big of a deal for most people outside of a small group of RE fans. But everyone knows Leon. It's a much more effective way of getting your point across to a much larger group of people.
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I liked Leon in RE2, but he's hideoulsy over saturated at this point. It feels like you can't zip your fly up in the RE world without having him, Jill or Chris making comments on it because they're everywhere. Given that Leon isn't even mentioned as playable at this point it's annoying the hell out of me to see him featured in so much media.
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...That's a lot of hate there on #2. xDOriginally posted by Darkmoon View PostTwo things from that trailer.
1 - It looks glorious. You can suck that atmosphere through a straw and it would taste like depair. I would have liked a bit more gameplay rather than those short clips though.
2 - What is it with Leon? Seriously, he's not even confirmed as a playable character and we've had more promo images featuring him than any of the four main ones. I know Capcom wants to make sure people are interested, but right now you need to make me give a crap as to why playing a bunch of evil psycho mercernaries is going to be fun. Leon is none of these things. If he was more of a white knight he'd have come to Raccoon City on a fucking white horse. I only care if I can blow his nuts off and see him crying and begging not to die. Then killing him anyway.
Well, they said you'll be able to meet and kill main characters if I remember right.
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Two things from that trailer.
1 - It looks glorious. You can suck that atmosphere through a straw and it would taste like depair. I would have liked a bit more gameplay rather than those short clips though.
2 - What is it with Leon? Seriously, he's not even confirmed as a playable character and we've had more promo images featuring him than any of the four main ones. I know Capcom wants to make sure people are interested, but right now you need to make me give a crap as to why playing a bunch of evil psycho mercernaries is going to be fun. Leon is none of these things. If he was more of a white knight he'd have come to Raccoon City on a fucking white horse. I only care if I can blow his nuts off and see him crying and begging not to die. Then killing him anyway.
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I'm with NB on this one. I knew the coat is BF back in 1998 and without any guides too. It's OBVIOUS. And DSC and UC argument is pointless. You are confusing GAMEPLAY mechanic with canon. They rarely match.
The coat is bulletproof, explosion proof and is also a limiter. Case closed.
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Reston - Most people here would give him more kudos not because of the number of posts or the website he posts on, but that he reliably has translated numerous pieces of information from Capcom's Japanese books for a number of years, numerous pieces that have frequently also then become more relevant when other games in the series have been released. Due to that, if he has read in several places a piece of info then given his track record we're more going to listen to his explination. If you don't agree or want to listen, I think everyone is fine with that... but for some reason you're both until now been too stubborn over a silly point.
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Am I the only one thinking who cares about a stupid coat? For all we know it could house little elves that tell it where to go
As for the stealth camo I'm pretty sure it was a gameplay first idea and they'll find a way of implementing it into the story
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I'm not looking for people to side with me though. I already expected people to side with someone over someone who has "21" posts and never has been heard of before by most of you. And since this will turn into a "popular" contest, I'm cool with that.
But re-read the entire thing. It was just a limiter coat. It was changed later to be bulletproof in UC/DC.
The coats were never ALWAYS BULLET PROOF/EXPLOSIVE PROOF from the original release of RE2. And he said they were and all I asked was for him to prove it. And all I got back was some strategy guides with no publishers or authors.
Just saying. I respect his work. I appreciate what he has done but I don't agree with him what-so-ever on this.
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I know it was in the book, I own it myself. Two copies, actually.Originally posted by Reston View Post@ Canas
I didn't state that as a personal reference in the (). That was in the book. And yes, they even mis translate biohazard to Resident Evil. But I already talked upon this subject. And it's where it's at.
I'm saying that A. that's more or less helping NB's point by the book saying it's a defense coat and not just a limiter, and B. if you seriously use that as a viable source when they can't even get something as simple as UBCS translated properly then... eh. You're a better man than I.
Not meaning to derail, just going by what I see as well. Personally, especially from seeing his past stuff and from what I've heard in the past on my own, I have to side with NB.
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@ Canas
I didn't state that as a personal reference in the (). That was in the book. And yes, they even mis translate biohazard to Resident Evil. But I already talked upon this subject. And it's where it's at.
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^ K
See I heard that it was a limiter as well in the past so now I'm confused ;) Well it does not matter anymore as RE's canon is blown apart. It in shambles now so meh. Capcom can change what ever they like it seems.
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Limiters aren't defense coats. They'd just be limiters.Originally posted by Reston View PostAdditionally, if its life support reaches a critical point, it will remove its power limited (defense coat) and transform into a Super Tyrant."
Besides, everyone knows Archives in English is the shoddiest translation ever and shouldn't dare be trusted. Hell, they translated the UBCS as the Umbrella Resident Evil Countermeasure Service. Seriously?
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Quoted on page 157 of Archives for you Zombie X and anyone else interested:
"Code number T-103 is the subsequent model that was developed using the results of the T-002 performance tests. The T-103 has a higher recovery rate due to its increased metabolism. Compared to the T-002, the T-103 has a considerably more humanoid form. This means that a product capable of meeting our ultimate goal of infiltrating enemy territory is much closer than anticipated. Additionally, if its life support reaches a critical point, it will remove its power limited (defense coat) and transform into a Super Tyrant."
So the coat is nothing more than to withold it from morphing and only used as a last resort when removed and this is after it takes DAMAGE. And since Archives was released before UC and DC.
But I wasn't trying to argue. I clearly made a point earlier in the previous section about people whining over cloaking ability and compared it to the T-103 units and then he tried to correct me.
That's all that happened. As far as I am concerned, there is nothing to state otherwise that during the development of BH2 the coats were always supposed to be bullet and explosive proof.
But my apology on MY PART for derailing the discussion of Raccoon City game.Last edited by Reston; 03-29-2011, 09:29 PM.
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