RPD Dispatch 7 - Apocalypse & Extinction

[Becky's Butt]

I disagree with whoever said Paul can't do game-to-movies. The first Mortal Kombat movie was pure awesome.

Anyway, I'll definitely be tuning in for this new ep. Currently downloading and listening to older ones. ^^

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I've never used this Skype thing. If I do download it, what do I do when I "call" you guys?

[Mr. Spencer]

Just finished watching Extinction. God, that's two hours of my life that I won't be getting back.

[Dot50Cal]

I disagree with whoever said Paul can't do game-to-movies. The first Mortal Kombat movie was pure awesome.

Anyway, I'll definitely be tuning in for this new ep. Currently downloading and listening to older ones. ^^

EDIT:
I've never used this Skype thing. If I do download it, what do I do when I "call" you guys?

Well, normally Id either pick up or it would just keep ringing But basically, You'll be greeted by our answering service and then the call will begin recording and you can talk to us. We'll then edit that, and put it in the podcast. Or you can just send us a pre-recorded MP3.

Extinction seemed really limited in scope upon watching it again. It pretty much is about the failure of the convoy, and thats really about it. Oh, and clones. Lots of clones. If they are doing another one, it'll be really weird. They've pretty much killed off every character whos ever been in the series besides Alice. We just have her, and her clone army now.

[Archelon]

Extinction seemed really limited in scope upon watching it again. It pretty much is about the failure of the convoy, and thats really about it. Oh, and clones. Lots of clones.

The novelization is far more substantial, but then, it actually covers what happened to Jill and what she's up to during the events of Extinction.

[Dot50Cal]

Can you summarize the points? I heard that the girl they save at the end of Apocalypse dies by Alice's hand? Is that right?

[Bertha]

Can you summarize the points? I heard that the girl they save at the end of Apocalypse dies by Alice's hand? Is that right?

Angie? Yes...in the book she is killed by Alice. Isaacs has Alice under the mind control and he orders her to kill the little girl. Jill also goes her own way...but I really can't remember why. I know she finds some sort of outpost that has some survivors I think...I wish I could find my copy of the book but I think it may be in storage.

[Dot50Cal]

Is there any reason why the "lakes and rivers eventually dried up"? K-Mart (ugghhhhhhh) mentions that the convoy found her "a few years back" and the characters don't look all that aged. So I can only assume its been maybe 7 years max since the outbreak. For everything to just turn to dust sounds really stupid, and entirely unrelated to the zombie infection. Yet they reference it as if it caused it.

Is anything in the book canon? Because Alice says she left because Umbrella were monitoring her, nothing about killing Angie.

The only thing I really liked was the addition of a Tyrant. Towards the end when it gets creepy as Alice is going through the labs with Issacs hunting her. Other than that, I didn't really like this film. John and I noticed a lot of movie references. It seemed like this entire film was all one mash-up of scenes from various other movies. The super zombie training scene, straight from Bub in Day of the Dead. Rapist family from Judge Dredd or X-Files "Home" episode. Theres a couple others, which we'll mention on the podcast.

[Archelon]

Can you summarize the points? I heard that the girl they save at the end of Apocalypse dies by Alice's hand? Is that right?

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Yeah. It goes into far more depth regarding the extent of Isaacs' control over Alice. In the movie, it's briefly mentioned that Carlos and Alice split up after infiltrating the Umbrella facility in, I think, Chicago. In the novelization, it describes what happened.

Alice, Carlos, and several others infiltrated the facility, but Isaacs used a satellite to control Alice (as is briefly seen in the movie). She killed several of the other members of her group, and at Isaacs order, shot Angela point blank in the head. If I remember correctly, Isaacs did it simply as a test of how strong his control over her was.

It was then that she learned of the satellite and how Umbrella was tracking her. The watch she wears is in time with the satellite, so she knows when it's directly overhead (again, this is briefly referenced in the movie). That's why she was constantly on the move. She was staying ahead of the satellite.

As for Jill, shortly after the events of Apocalypse, the survivors from Apocalypse were holed up in a hotel trying to figure out what to do next. They were basically fugitives, and Jill was spotted by some cops when she went to get some food. She let herself be arrested so everyone else could get away.

She was held for awhile until the T-Virus spread throughout the country, and she eventually was freed. She then travelled across the country looking for survivors, supplies, etc, much like the convoy. She wound up in Baltimore and joined up with some survivors in the convention center. She took care of some unsavory types for them who were hogging all the resources and became the de facto leader of the survivors. As of the end of the Extinction, she's still at the convention center with the other survivors.

There's a lot more, but it's been quite some time since I read the novelization. This is the best I can do off the top of my head.

[Bertha]

Not sure how canon it is to the movie...but it was a major spoiler actually since it was released before the film came out. The man that wrote it did the other novelizations of the movies as well.

It's a moderately long book as well...goes into detail about Isaacs blaming Cain for some of his problems (random page I just opened up to) and it flip flops in a before/after sense. One chapter being before the movie taking place, after being during the movie.

[Dot50Cal]

Thanks for the summary, Archelon. I might have to give it a read when I'm done with the Perry novels.

[Archelon]

Yeah, the novel also explains how the T-Virus escaped Raccoon City.

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During the confusion when all the people were trying to force their way out of the gates when Umbrella was closing them, one of the doctors at the checkpoint accidentally cut his finger on a broken vial of the T-Virus. He realized he had cut his finger, but he didn't realize what he had cut it on, and by that time, he was already one one of the helicopters out of the city.

I don't remember if it goes into why the forests died and the lakes dried up, though. I don't think it does. I could be mistaken, of course.

[Bertha]

There's also a lot more from Umbrella's view as well...and a scene where the T-virus is released into the White House.

[Archelon]

There's also a lot more from Umbrella's view as well...and a scene where the T-virus is released into the White House.

That's right.

When I read it, I remember thinking to myself, "How great would it be if the President's name was Graham?" Ha ha.

[Bertha]

That's right.

When I read it, I remember thinking to myself, "How great would it be if the President's name was Graham?" Ha ha.

lol Sadly its not. Found my book so I can refernece a bit better. On page 74 of my copy....Jill refers to the RPD as the RCPD...and she also says the STARS captain is a man named Henderson, so Wesker has no ties (as of yet) to Raccoon at all.

[Archelon]

lol Sadly its not. Found my book so I can refernece a bit better. On page 74 of my copy....Jill refers to the RPD as the RCPD...and she also says the STARS captain is a man named Henderson, so Wesker has no ties (as of yet) to Raccoon at all.

Yeah, Henderson was in Apocalypse. I don't think they reference him by name in the movie, though. And if I remember correctly, Wesker was a CEO for Umbrella.