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  • #31
    Originally posted by SinValentine View Post
    lies!... you told me you went to bed
    My sister woke me up on the phone at 2am demanding to know the results, stayed up till 5.
    Geez, talk about a big brother complex
    Last edited by The Dude; 11-05-2008, 02:51 PM.

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    • #32
      I cried. kind of.

      ;_;

      *because I was happy*

      Then I got mad because Prop 8 passed
      >:[
      Last edited by Vogue_Dirge; 11-05-2008, 11:57 PM.

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      • #33
        I guess the Illuminati lies are now more believable to the ethnic communities now there told by a black man instead
        Obama isn't America savior he's just a another puppet a uncle tom used to win back voters after Katrina he moves around in the same circles as Condoleezza Rice
        All Obama is being used for is to gloss around the edges to make America's image more palatable whilst keeping you from thinking about what's going on elsewhere.
        Last edited by kevstah2004; 11-06-2008, 06:20 AM.
        If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by kevstah2004 View Post
          I guess the Illuminati lies are now more believable to the ethnic communities now there told by a black man instead
          Obama isn't America savior he's just a another puppet a uncle tom used to win back voters after Katrina he moves around in the same circles as Condoleezza Rice
          All Obama is being used for is to gloss around the edges to make America's image more palatable whilst keeping you from thinking about what's going on elsewhere.
          wat

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          • #35
            They'll stop at nothing to get what they want they paint the 3rd world as
            savage and backward but the superpowers are no less corrupt they've just learned to disguise it better they fix elections too, they embezzle tax money, they go to war for resources, they fund terrorism for their own benefit and when there's enough at stake history's taught us when somebody speaks out they'll assassinate.
            If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

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            • #36
              Kevstah, I cannot even begin to try to comprehend the diarrhea you are spewing right now.

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              • #37
                Your happy with crumbs from the table?
                If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

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                • #38
                  obama economic plans are just going to cripple the economy even more plus his universal health care is a bad idea

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by kevstah2004 View Post
                    They'll stop at nothing to get what they want they paint the 3rd world as
                    savage and backward but the superpowers are no less corrupt they've just learned to disguise it better they fix elections too, they embezzle tax money, they go to war for resources, they fund terrorism for their own benefit and when there's enough at stake history's taught us when somebody speaks out they'll assassinate.
                    ...........!!!

                    This is all very funny Keep going, for our amusement.

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                    • #40
                      savage and backward
                      No offense to anyone, but parts of the Middle East are pretty savage and backwards. Women being stoned and beaten to death in the street in front of "police" is hardly civilised behaviour. Nor is beheading, hanging people from bridges or blowing yourself and a few other people up just so you can fuck a few virgins in the afterlife.

                      And extremists are the very definition of humanity gone completely fucking wrong.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ChrisRedfield29 View Post
                        Kevstah, I cannot even begin to try to comprehend the diarrhea you are spewing right now.
                        The just of it is that Obama is just another politician, that's all. All the talk and hype about him being representative of "change" is just talk. There is a change already though (Republicans no longer in charge). But if people are expecting him to be Superman and make massive changes beyond what other good politicians have done throughout the years, they may be in for a rude awakening.


                        The best Americans can hope for is an administration similar to the Clinton one. I think everyone would love that actually.

                        Let Obama prove himself first. If he can do the job as well as he speaks, a second term is guaranteed.

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                        • #42
                          America should think about issues closer to home before spinning the globe and choosing which place to rape next.
                          Then we have NASA wtf more wasted money why are we searching for life outside our solar system when can't even sustain our own where all in the same little boat drowning with one another while the fat cats are keeping dry the media controlled by them teaches us from birth to hate each over when we should really be working together.
                          If he had a brain, he'd be dangerous.

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                          • #43
                            my friend (who i agree 100% with) stated this about obamas health care plan:

                            "Healthcare... That is a major issue, but government regulation is not the right answer... There are many examples of the government attempting to regulate services and destroying them...The air industry is a perfect example.. Look at all of the companies going bankrupt and struggling to stay out of the red.. (they are not doing a good job)

                            I am in the health care profession and I am fully aware of what would happen if the government turned to a system like Canada...

                            Without a money incentive for private investors to make a buck, there will be no new health care innovation such as new drugs... new surgical equipment.. etc... This would lead to a gradual decline in the effectiveness of healthcare in general.. Why is Healthcare somewhat successful in other countries? Because the leading country in the world has a free system to innovate new technology for the rest of the world. Without us, we would have less than 75% of the drugs that are currently on the market.. the United States is the leader in drug development by far. Without the money incentive, say bye bye to spending millions on Research and development...


                            I would agree with a tax rebate for people that do not have insurance, but the government deciding how much they will pay for a procedure is just ludacris. They have no idea of the cost of drugs or surgeries...

                            Medicare part D is a perfect example. When that plan came out it bankrupted over 25% of pharmacies in the United states and continues to do so. The government my dad and I over $100,000 due to a 3 month lag time of payment... ( which began due to the slackness of government payment) I cant even imagine how bad it would be if they regulated all of our customers insurance policies... If you dont think 100,000 is a lot to a company, then you're wrong.. Having that much money to take a hit is very unlikely. The pharmacies that survied are the ones that saved their capital and didnt reinvest into new things... This is a perfect example of why innovation in the healthcare field would fail.... Of the 45 million americans that do not have health insurance, I believe over half of them choose not to have it at their place of employment. The significant number just astounds people that do not do their research and know what the number is based on.

                            The purpose of government is to protect our civil rights and liberties... not regulate them... Dont believe me? Look at the constitution.

                            Some may make the argument that it is our right to be provided healthcare, but i dont believe it is... I believe it is ONES DUTY to provide that for themselves..If they cannot secure a job that provides it, or save for it themselves, then tough luck.. Call me heartless or whatever.. My grandparents died lacking healthcare and maybe would be alive today if the had adequate access to healthcare, but they and I agreed it was their responsibility to obtain it for themselves and not be given it by the government... That squashes the argument that I dont know what its like..


                            I am not personally hating on anyone, just simply stating my opinion. The democrat party believes that government should grow while republicans do not. I personally believe the government shouldnt grow. I also feel like the free market should decide the price on everything such as healthcare... oil... etc..."

                            and the reason why his tax policy will cripple the economy instead of help it is because by increasing taxes of the corporations and small business they will have to lay off people in order to maintain the same profit margins. what happened to the american dream of working hard and getting rich? there is no longer an incentive to work hard when the gov is going to take your money and give it to people that are lazy and don't deserve it. say you are a waiter at a restaurant and you bust your butt for a good tip but instead of the guy giving you your well deserved tip he goes and gives it to a hobo outside who is chugging down bottle of alcohol. its just not right is it. besides both policies are very socialistic.

                            well thats my opinion on the topic and for now i have the freedom of speech which may change in a few years if nancy gets her way

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                            • #44
                              No health care innovation or new drug research? Do you know how much markup is made on general drugs in the US system? Most drugs cost cents or fractions of cents to produce. Even if each US citizen paid only $5 for any prescription under a government backed discount, the companies creating the drugs would still make more than enough profit to remain viable, more than profitable, and fund continued research. Check the current stats on the major companies on how much is made in the US each year in pure profit.

                              Over here some of the biggest money making companies are the smallest because their doing more direct research into new and untested territory based first on research grants and then funded by pure direct, subsidized, sales of their newly created products.

                              Universal health care works just about everywhere else in the world, it's just worries about potential of any change what so ever that has most people in the states crapping themselves in fear at this. If people have the money/insurance and dont want to wait they can still get the privatized care under the system which will still be big business, it just means people who otherwise would be thrown to the curb have the chance to at least get emergency care - not necessarily long term.

                              It's not perfect (long lines for general surgery attest to it) but it works better than the US's current stances, and it's also a misconception that it will kill private health care on it's own. Big business kills big business. The toppling of various financial institutes over the past 10 years should clearly show it can happen with or without any change in govt. backed policy.
                              Last edited by Rombie; 11-06-2008, 12:52 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mamock116 View Post
                                obama economic plans are just going to cripple the economy even more plus his universal health care is a bad idea
                                Yep! It makes my big red, white, and blue American heart fill with joy when I'm charged 500$ for a single X-Ray. God Bless America!!

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