I'm Angry

[Mr. Spencer]

Be proud of yourself, what you have accomplished instead of being proud of what others have done.

[Darkmoon]

Proud of what? I mean, you yourself didn't do anything. Neither have I. We're proud of things we haven't done, that's what nationalism is. Hell with the Royal Family, bunch of tourist magnets the lot of them.

There's no reason you can't be proud of what your nation and ancestors have achieved. You can be proud of actions other than your own, and take them as inspiration for better actions in the future.

Of course, I'm not especially proud to be British because of the stuff we're pulling at the moment politicians screwing over the poor in the name of cuts, but never touching the rich (which would include themselves) despite the fact it's there policies, or there predecessors, that have left us in this position but we get to suffer for there mistakes. Then we have hideously biased press, often doing illegal things to dredge up the worst possible bits of gossip to peddle, usually telling us how terrible everything is because of A) Political party they don't support B) Young people who don't buy there paper or C) random race/religion/nation/immigrants. Just peddling misery and hate to make money...there's good news in the world, but they never show that. People have to know that Paris Hilton blew some guy instead.

I'm proud of some of our past. I'd like to think I'll be proud of most of our future. But I'm not impressed by the present.

[Shadow Stalker]

Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious, according to Oscar Wilde.

*(Francis X. Hummel elbows John Mason in the back of the head)*

John Mason (Sean Connery): *(grunts)* Thank you for proving my point.

Brig Gen. Francis X. Hummel (Ed Harris): Where are the guidance chips?

*(pause)*

Hummel: *(whips out pistol)* Where are the guidance chips!?

Mason: I destroyed them.

Hummel: That was a bad move soldier.

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... Sorry ... I couldn't resist. The quote from Wilde reminded me of an childhood favourite action flick.

[Mr. Spencer]

We're not all like that btw. I'm in London right now, busy place but it is nice, I'm proud to be English, I don't love the Royal family but I don't hate them. On the Royal Wedding day, I was one of many Brits who were very proud of their country and celebrated.

Proud of what? I mean, you yourself didn't do anything. Neither have I. We're proud of things we haven't done, that's what nationalism is. Hell with the Royal Family, bunch of tourist magnets the lot of them.

[Wrathborne]

We're not all like that btw. I'm in London right now, busy place but it is nice, I'm proud to be English, I don't love the Royal family but I don't hate them. On the Royal Wedding day, I was one of many Brits who were very proud of their country and celebrated.

I wish we had something like that to celibate here in the US...Stupid MTV, congress, Obama, and Hollywood in general ruin everything.

All I can say is, I'm glad I didn't watch the video from China with the toddler getting hit by a van. I know I'd be in a rage after that don't need to put that on myself as there is already so much anger caused by a stupid selfish prick who was driving. Hes got himself a nice spot in hell though.

[Alexia_Ashford]

We're not all like that btw. I'm in London right now, busy place but it is nice, I'm proud to be English, I don't love the Royal family but I don't hate them. On the Royal Wedding day, I was one of many Brits who were very proud of their country and celebrated.

[Ununoctium]

Check that link I posted.

I watched the video and that guy is a tool and he gives libertarians a bad name. He said himself that he wants to remove all forms of history, nationalism, pride, culture, and tradition from the world and replace it with European Union-style globalization. To which the only reply can be:

[Mr. Spencer]

Check that link I posted.

[Ununoctium]

Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious, according to Oscar Wilde.

So you would rather have everyone be like the European Commission and communist politiburo?

[Mr. Spencer]

Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious, according to Oscar Wilde.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPDT5qHtZ4

Watch that, since you seem so keen on posting youtube videos.

[Ununoctium]

Yes. Yes I am. A dead man can't answer for anything.

But Americans, so blinded by their burning rage for vengeance will happily celebrate the death of someone who apparently wronged them. Them personally, even if they knew NO-ONE in the World Trade Center on September 11th. Nationalism and such, just means you take pride in things you didn't do or get offended by things that have no real effect on you.

You hate patriotism and nationalism? One of the many things that makes America so great is that we love our country, unlike the Europeans who absolutely hate freedom and sovereignty, and they trade it for handouts and the European Union.

[Mr. Spencer]

Yes. Yes I am. A dead man can't answer for anything.

But Americans, so blinded by their burning rage for vengeance will happily celebrate the death of someone who apparently wronged them. Them personally, even if they knew NO-ONE in the World Trade Center on September 11th. Nationalism and such, just means you take pride in things you didn't do or get offended by things that have no real effect on you.

Before you go hurling out the "fuck Europeans" arguement, I should mention that my opinion remains the same about my own country. When the bombings happened on July 7th, didn't bother me one bit. Didn't give a fuck what happened to those responsible, didn't affect me personally, hell I hate London. You're never more than two metres away from an arsehole. Horrible place, horrible people.

[Ununoctium]

You could tell it was a botched operation, he could have been taken alive in order to answer for himself but the rebels are a bunch of cowboys firing from the hip.

Are you also of the camp that believes that Osama bin Laden should have put in a UN court?

[Mr. Spencer]

I'd say being shot in the head and still walking around was pretty badass.

You could tell it was a botched operation, he could have been taken alive in order to answer for himself but the rebels are a bunch of cowboys firing from the hip.

[Scream]

That video you saw is full of shit. There was not even clean water in that city, you had to drive miles in the heat to get water. The government payed 50 % of your car? LOL.

Yeah I would tend to agree, I didn't look into it too much.. I suppose Gaddafi did his part for Libya over the years and now they no longer have any use for him. He should of stepped down earlier to reform things.. and because he didn't he'll now always be known as an evil dictator..