Wrestling

[valentinesdead?]

Not that I watch wrestling anymore, but. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2OS9wZGb_3g

I would like to think that this company would be better after Vince McMahon is dead, but the fact is, it's gonna get taken over by his idiotic daughter, and his doofus son-in-law, and the rest of his stupid family.

Fuckin' shit just got real. Most likely a worked shoot, but goddamn, the truth was truly spoken tonight. CM PUNK is GOD as far as wrestling is concerned. I knew they would never treat him right in WWE. He should have been launched to main event status the first day he was in WWE. His work in Ring for Honor with Raven, and his 60 min matches with Samoa Joe, along with his "Straight-Edge" gimmick, was top-of-the-line. Nobody could touch that shit. All they had to do was let him be CM Punk. It's so simple.

Not that I care much. WWE is dead. It'll never recover because of the system they have in place(scripted garbage vs letting the guys wing it with the promos and respond to the crowd), and the things CM Punk mentioned are absolutely dead-on.

Favorite part is Steph and Triple H getting called out for being what they really are. CM Punk--love you!

[Shadow Stalker]

Someone should send that to Vince. McMahon, Russo...all the Vinces.

I agree.

[Darkmoon]

Someone should send that to Vince. McMahon, Russo...all the Vinces.

[Shadow Stalker]

I just wanted to share this link with everyone on here. (It's about tips on to be a pro-wrestling booker)

Personally I think it's a good read, but I like to see anyone's thoughts on it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ntTo/BeABooker

[Darkmoon]

I suspect a full indy worker will be more prepared for a WWE contract than someone whose simply been through a feeder federation, purely because they'll have run into more people, had to play more politics and seen more styles of wrestling. Some indy workers are amazing, and while a fair whack wouldn't go near the WWE because they do love to squander talent, others are happy for the steady income.

[Stu]

You're using "grand stage" and "WCW and ECW" in the same sentence?

REALLY?!

[kevstah2004]

Indies or developmental territories aren't a grand enough stage imo everbody knows WWF best talent came from WCW and ECW.

[Stu]

you cleary missed my point.

You mean you had a point other than the one i made clear you couldn't be more wrong about? The one where you said it was impossible to see whether wrestlers could succeed, this despite the various indie feds that exist, the WWE's own developmental territories as well?

I'd love to see what your point really was then

[BrionIrons]

No it's not, WWE still has it's own development feds.

yup FCW(Florida Championchip Wrestling)and OVW(Ohio Valley Wrestling) i think.

[kevstah2004]

you cleary missed my point.

[Stu]

He should of gave WCW to Shane and ECW to Stephanie the way it was in the Invasion angle and carried on both comapnies, WCW and ECW both served as a training ground for upcoming stars before making their big break in WWF now it's much harder to see if a wrestler will cut the mustard.

No it's not, WWE still has it's own development feds.

[Beanovsky Durst]

So EDGE had to retire due to spine injures. Damn... I'm gonna miss him. He was my favorite heel wrestler along with Randy Orton, and his run as face was also good. What a shame, I think he had a lot of good matches left.

[kevstah2004]

He should of gave WCW to Shane and ECW to Stephanie the way it was in the Invasion angle and carried on both comapnies, WCW and ECW both served as a training ground for upcoming stars before making their big break in WWF now it's much harder to see if a wrestler will cut the mustard. TNA is gonna end up as passing fad if it's not careful the same as Backyard Wresting. Simply put wrestling suffered a massive blow with the breakdown of WCW, Hogan Russo 's doing laying down in matches wtf

[Darkmoon]

Yeah, I gotta admit, I only watch TNA because it's free (incuding the PPV's) in the UK. With Vince 'I'm a huge Fuckup' Russo writting and getting ideas from Eric 'I'm a Genius!' Bischoff and Hulk 'My Spot is Eternally Mine Even when I can't Wrestle for Fear of my Old Man Hip Popping Off' Hogan it's just being utter drivel. The only bright moments are Anderson's rants (and matches) and whenever they find a whole 2 minutes of air time for some of the better wrestlers.

[GuardhouseMusic]

If ROH can get a new TV deal and play on a channel that more people actually have access to, I'd be a lot more excited to watch wrestling every week. I'm sure for the WWE it's just the "necessity" of WM buildup, but the last few weeks have been a good promo here and there, maybe a good match or two, but mostly just repetitions of the previous week.

For now, I can watch with the hope that talent such as CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler, Sheamus, and others can get the recognition and ring time they deserve. In TNA's case the booking is just sewage right now. Kevstah mentioned a yearly rotation of Joe, Styles, and Sting but I'd take the first two out. Joe is in a pointless angle with Elijah Burke (another clump of wasted potential) and Styles has been kayfabe shelved.