1.5

[Borman]

Because prototypes were distributed on CD-rs Pressed disks are more for retail things, and are pretty rare to see. And there are almost always ways to tell if a disk is original or a copy, whether it is the handwriting, or just knowing how a company labels the disks. Sure there are ones where you really can't tell, but then you need to know the source.

[Enrico Marini]

All I was saying is if its a blank cd without anything, and there isn't much of a source to back it up or no sources will admit to it being direct from capcom, then it really is no different to a copy. I don't mean to be kicking a fuss or anything, especially since none of us have seen the leaked discs up close and personal. All I'll say is the handwriting could just be done by anyone though. Find someone who can write japanese and just get them to write some biohazard 2 v1.245221 with a date and you wouldn't really know much different. Except for carbon dating on the ink itself.

[Anders]

Erm...how are you so sure they're on CDRs?

Because protos are on recordable media, CD-R, DVD-R, NR, GD-R, etc. These are limited, it's too expensive/time-consuming to manufacture pressing plates just to press 20-50 discs. There ARE some protos on pressed discs, I think I've seen that for Xbox and PSP (not promo games, these pressed discs are not meant to be leaked). All PS1 protos I've ever seen have been on CD-R.

Just to clarify what I ment. Of course if there is some kind of logoing or something on the disc that shows its a Capcom CD-R it will retain some value. If its some kind of generic CD-R, to me, it pretty much looses its value since how do you prove it was burned by Capcom? As it could just be a copy of a copy of a copy. Now if its a plain CD with the directors/Coders/Artist sig or name then it'll retain some value.

For PS1 discs, I doubt there will be a Capcom logo. PS1/2 discs are mostly on generic CD/DVD-Rs (though I do believe I've seen some Sony PS1 printed CD-Rs), though they sometimes do have paper labels with artwork/ logos. I've seen Xbox 360 and PS3 protos with paper labels with Capcom logos. Dreamcast protos are pretty nice, they can only be burned on GD-Rs supplied by Sega, so they have a printed Sega design (no paper labels). Same with NR discs (GameCube).

As for knowing if it's an original disc copied by the game manufacturer/ publisher, you'll have to go by who the disc originally leaked from, or experience (risky, I suppose).

[Rick Hunter]

If it was on a CDR, wouldn't it be dead by now? They don't really have a very long lifespan.

[psx-collector]

If it was on a CDR, wouldn't it be dead by now? They don't really have a very long lifespan.

I have a CD-R from 1996. It has a scratches. 0% of C2 errors.

Old CD-R's had very high quality. They were made in Japan.

[Enrico Marini]

All my old CD-Rs work fine. Its just how you treat them. They are easier to damage but if they aren't abused, they'll last a while.

[kevstah2004]

http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

http://www.digitalfaq.com/forum/showthread.php/software-media-id-393.html

http://www.imgburn.com/

You can check the disc manufacturer and burn date quite easily although some companies fake disc id's to make them look like Vertaium and Taiyo Yuden.
I had some cheap 7p discs once that warped and leaked and a Sony one that warped around the edge that still plays fine.

[Rick Hunter]

When I see that:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAPCOM-Resident-Evil-2-BETA-SUPER-RARE_W0QQitemZ290397185517QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_23?hash=item439d0565ed

I can't help but wonder why it's a pressed CD, and if the same goes to other versions as well. I find it rather strange. I wonder if it's legit.

[Carnivol]

When I see that:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAPCOM-Resident-Evil-2-BETA-SUPER-RARE_W0QQitemZ290397185517QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_23?hash=item439d0565ed

I can't help but wonder why it's a pressed CD, and if the same goes to other versions as well. I find it rather strange. I wonder if it's legit.

That's not a pressed CD. It's just a black dyed CD-R, probably with a printable surface (you can get CD-Rs in almost any color you want). Though, I guess it could be pressed... if it's a Hong Kong silver (HK bootleg), of course. But I don't recall ever seeing one on anything but a disc with a standard blank surface.


When I'm not busy being lazy, I can see if I can show everyone a picture of what a standard Sony PlayStation CD-R looks like (not that most people used those on the PS1. Especially after other manufacturers probably got cheaper than Sony's and their attempt at open street robbery through sale of overpriced recordable media ended.)

[Anders]

When I see that:

http://cgi.ebay.com/CAPCOM-Resident-Evil-2-BETA-SUPER-RARE_W0QQitemZ290397185517QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_23?hash=item439d0565ed

I can't help but wonder why it's a pressed CD, and if the same goes to other versions as well. I find it rather strange. I wonder if it's legit.

I never knew ESRB rated betas

[Harry Mason]

Well we don't really know if the ones being passed round are pressed releases (official discs) as they could just be burned CDs, and if they are just burned CDs then a Release would just kill their value stone dead. Why pay lots of money for the leaked burned CD when you could just burn one yourselves for free and it would still be almost as official?

I never really thought about that..I guess or assumed that retail developers just paid a chunk of cash to Sony for some type of pre-formated PSX bootable CD-R's not standard retail CD-R. If the originals are nothing more than retail trash I can see why the value would drop.

[kevstah2004]

http://www.zshare.net/audio/7209744020694c00/

I can't but think of this every time 1.5 is brought up

[RetroRain]

Guys, I need to ask you something.



How come that third line from the bottom on the left side doesn't go to that point?

[Enrico Marini]

would help to see the untouched image.

[kiedistidus]

Im still half and half over wether the 1.5 discs exist I mean for them to be circulating and none of us, who've searched everywhere for it, to have found one is unusual to say the least.
If they do exist I can imagine they where only released to members of the press or people in that clique who have either signed something or have agreed for the discs not to go public.