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  • Nomad9026
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    Ah... forget it...

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  • SinValentine
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    you sound like you're sorta contradicting yourself

    i guess just drop it, everyone's gonna judge for themselves when it comes out anyway

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  • Nomad9026
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    Damn people! The resident evil that we call "clasic" is gone. Gone forever, damn it! And I feel sad about it. I liked it. But now there is no chance for Capcom to make a new RE in an oldschool style. If you expect something really scary from RE5 you shoud better play SH or the first part of RE. Because you will not get anything from Re5 but action and maybe tense about low health and no bullets when you are soraunded. It sucks in some ways, yes. But I can leave with that. Because RE5 is gona be a great game. And I play games in order to have some fun. We just have to face this facts and wait till the games release.

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  • Guest
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    Re5 looks awesome!
    Last edited by Guest; 05-25-2008, 09:24 PM.

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  • SinValentine
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    i do agree with what umon said about the puzzles though, i like onimusha puzzles. i remember when the puzzles were harder and thought provoking, re 4 just threw it at you.

    some tigers have red eyes and some have blue!

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  • Umon Daisuke
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    Alzaire says something about people mocking, and then someone jumps in and does just that. Brilliant. Sorry, but I'm gonna go through some of the finer points, then I'll start ignoring.

    Originally posted by LeigiBoy View Post
    [B][COLOR="Green"]Ding ding ding

    We Have a winner!!!!!
    Really? Then horror movie creators can hang it up, because of the possibility that some group out there might be desensitized? SHO had the intensity of the a typical SH game, despite being a 5th game in the series.

    RE 3.5 looked like horror despite using a different approach, while maitaining the same formula. There are other ways to explore the horror theme, but it's about market trends and what sells a game nowadays. Hence what we have here.


    I say: not the whole world was built by George Trevor
    What kind of nonsense is this? Almost every single game out there has puzzles that are more complex than RE4's. Ninja Gaiden and Onimusha had more complex puzzles, despite being straight up action.

    Simpler puzzles were made to make the series more casual and mainstream. Less thinking required compared to all of the previous puzzles.


    I say: more than 10 years have passed, they survive more than an outbreak and know that it is capable people like weskern... but you are right it's better if the characters not be prepared and pretend surprise and fear in this kind of situation, despite what lived since before....
    Right, you may have a point if it's a state of constant horror for 10 years, and not just some key incidents. Despite what you see in movies or the media, even veteran soldiers experience fear but hide it well in real life.

    Trying to make sense out of a fictional game is downright idiotic. Let's explore this further and try figuring out what the T and G-viruses really were. More importantly, what resurrected Wesker really.. I would love to know the virus he was injected with to achieve mortality.

    i say: yeah shoot against a dead dude who can barely walk and an alive thinking man reinforced by a parasite its the same thing...
    There are more to the old games than just shooting. Ammo conservation was key, and having done speed runs, you can avoid shooting the vast majority of them. Shooting is a mere part of the formula, and not the focus.

    It's not the same thing by a long shot. You don't get points rewarded or ammo or money in the old games. In RE4, that was the focus. You can theoretically run past them but then you don't have money to upgrade weapons. If it's the same thing, go play the average FPS or Gears of Wars or Uncharted. They're the same thing as the old RE games.


    I say: Strategy? maybe the 2 or 3 first time you play... when you dont know the amount of ammo per enemy and once you have the shotgun all things are much more simple(especially against zombies). Afraid of what's behind the door? again maybe the 2 or 3 first time you play, the amount of enemies in each room barely changes in every game. Like in RE4...
    So let's discount the possibility that we'll see new enemies in each game, despite the fact that every single game had them. Even Zero had new ones that required a different approach, with more of them at the same time (the monkeys for example).

    But when the music start rolling like DMC's Lock & Load in RE4 alarming you of enemies around to start shooting, that's horror.


    For the record I love every game of RE with their pros and cons and i dont wanna be a asshole(or sound like one) o something like that but i dont like when there is senseless complaints like "is not a god game/a survival horror/a Resident evil because i say it"
    Then may I suggest avoid posting stuff like that in the future? Don't dismiss the reasoning provided of why some of us don't like the current direction. No one on this thread laid out their preference without an explanation, so it's not a case of "because I say so"; read them through.

    Love the direction? Outstanding. As I said, with enough changes to cater to current market trends, they may be able to replicated the commercial success they had with the PS1 series.
    Last edited by Umon Daisuke; 05-24-2008, 11:43 AM.

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  • U and S
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    I didn't say it would pop-out of a volcano, neither does the information from the preview. It says volcanic activity releases it. And viruses HAVE been know to survive being frozen and all I added was that volcanic activity could melt its ice cap and release the virus. Doesn't need to go through lava heat.

    Anyway, there's prehistoric viruses infused in our DNA. Viruses are thought to be the originators of the ability for self replicating DNA. What's more cool, there's chunks of data in our DNA from other prehistoric creatures we evolved from.


    --- Also, the new gameplay RE4 style doesn't mean the game can't be old school scary. It's just that RE4 had really unscary, crappy monsters -- especially the ganados. RE series prior perspective had enemies appear off screen a lot and you could only hear them coming, which was scary. But RE5 could replicate that by having more enemies creep up on you from behind, which is a blind spot for the camera system of RE4/RE5. Ad to that some more horrific enemy design, then it could be much scarier than RE4.
    Last edited by U and S; 05-24-2008, 09:00 AM.

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  • Dot50Cal
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    Oh my god LeigiBoy, Bravo! Hahaha.

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  • LeigiBoy
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    Originally posted by SinValentine View Post
    ... but maybe it's just becoming harder to scare us because we're all getting older? the old techniques will become mundane after awhile, so they had to spice it up somehow..
    Ding ding ding

    We Have a winner!!!!!


    Pliiiiiiis

    i hear the same thing since the comeout of RE4

    "Its not scary", "its not survival horror", "its not dark"

    pfffffffffffffffffff

    Its evolution Baby

    You say: RE4 and 5 have the same scenario

    i say: RE1 2 3 and CV have the same escenarios (a girl,a guy, a traitor , etc etc), Why you dont complain abut this?

    You say:there is no puzzles

    I say: not the whole world was built by George Trevor

    You say:RE4 Its not SH because it not dark

    I say:no one of the RE games is dark, the only that i can say is dark is the remake and its not like "WTF i can´t see anything". RE IS NOT Silent hill

    you say: RE about normal guys in the wrong place and now are action heroes

    I say: more than 10 years have passed, they survive more than an outbreak and know that it is capable people like weskern... but you are right it's better if the characters not be prepared and pretend surprise and fear in this kind of situation, despite what lived since before....

    you say: if a players of 2002 that goes in the future and sees RE4/5 will recognise the saga?

    I say: and you think if he see the exactly same thing that in his time it would make him happy?

    you say: Its a shooter because you shoot a lot

    i say: yeah shoot against a dead dude who can barely walk and an alive thinking man reinforced by a parasite its the same thing...

    you say: RE is about strategy and be afraid of what's behind the door

    I say: Strategy? maybe the 2 or 3 first time you play... when you dont know the amount of ammo per enemy and once you have the shotgun all things are much more simple(especially against zombies). Afraid of what's behind the door? again maybe the 2 or 3 first time you play, the amount of enemies in each room barely changes in every game. Like in RE4...


    Scary you say? i fell the despair when nemesis chaseme an when the doc salvador screem at my back "detras de ti idiota!" while I'm reloading my gun.
    If you do not feel fear, does not mean that the game is not scary.

    like i say before its evolution baby

    For the record I love every game of RE with their pros and cons and i dont wanna be a asshole(or sound like one) o something like that but i dont like when there is senseless complaints like "is not a god game/a survival horror/a Resident evil because i say it"
    Last edited by LeigiBoy; 05-24-2008, 09:42 AM.

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  • TheSelfishGene
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    Originally posted by Darkmoon View Post
    There are creatures, called extremeophiles, that can survive in such tempreatures. A virus couldn't, though. If I remember correctly the enzymes of a virus will be warped out of shape by extreme tempreature conditions, and they no longer function.
    But viruses don't have enzymes. A virus is just a protein shell with a nucleic acid inside (RNA or single strand DNA or double strand DNA). However the protein casing can warp into an unusable form, just like any other protein molecule. It depends on what organism the virus parasitises. If it's an organism that lives in hot places, then the virus will have co-evolved to tollerate the high temperatues, and have thermally stable proteins too.

    THAT SAID: All molecules are subject to the laws of physics. And so extreme temperatures (such as those found inside a volcano) will destory the information stored in organic molecules. And as such, this is why you don't see bacterias or other organisms living inside of a volcano. 80 degrees celcius seems to be the cut off point (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroth...al_communities)
    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermus_aquaticus)

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  • Mr.Jackal
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    i'm a little -a lot- worried about the game ...
    Resident Evil is a part of me , and i don't like it to be like "what have you done with me ? where is my Resident Evil?"
    RE4 was a great game , and RE5 will be a great game , the question is , will it be a good Resident Evil too ? can they bring the lost horror of Resident Evil back ? ( i was going to write honor ) RE was a game , known with it's horror elements ... and now it's gone ... who is scared of a infected biker ? or some human-like intelligent creatures ? they even don't look like a monster ! ... i still hope they can make horror out of this one , we had horror movies that went through sun ... and they were scary though.
    i liked other Takeuchi's game , they were like Modern yet Classic games.
    i really liked the RE4 gameplay , the action was awesome , the over shoulder mechanism rocked but ... i missed all the old good horror !
    and i can just wait for the new trailer too see the game in real-time gameplay , we can judge about how is the game after that

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  • Darkmoon
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    There are creatures, called extremeophiles, that can survive in such tempreatures. A virus couldn't, though. If I remember correctly the enzymes of a virus will be warped out of shape by extreme tempreature conditions, and they no longer function.

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  • Stu
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    Originally posted by Krispy View Post
    These compounds will deteriorate under extreme conditions, like say a volcano.
    LOGIC FAILURE.

    Different compounds respond in different ways to different extremities. Where one such compound could be destroyed by said condition, an entirely seperate compound could thrive under it.

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  • Krispy
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    Originally posted by U and S View Post
    A volcano releasing a virus is not silly --

    A virus is not a living organism. They can be frozen in ice for hundreds of years then be defrosted and infect someone. Perhaps the volcano melted its ice cap and released the virus via precipitation. Not very likely, but not impossible.

    Actually, I just talked to my friend and learned that there's a movie comimg out this year with a similiar premise; a frozen mammoth is found and in a melting glacier -- but, it contains an prehistoric parasite that infects the people who find it and they begin to turn on each other. Seems like it rips-off The Thing. It's called 'The Thaw'. Here's its poster, familiar, huh?
    A virus may be under discussion over whether it is truly living or not, but it is certainly still composed of organic compounds. These compounds will deteriorate under extreme conditions, like say a volcano. Have a prehistoric parasite live through defrosting is just laughably dumb.

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  • Stu
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    all of the Resident Evil games have been scary
    RE4 isn't scary
    Eh?

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