Bin Laden is Dead, nee Gay topic

[Canas Renvall]

I'm well aware. That's why I think they will fail, because we will be on our guard.

[Trent]

However, with our defenses up, I think they will all, or almost all fail.

Exactly this attitude will make a retaliation possible on your soil. You must not be naive, and you must be on your guard at all times.

[ANDYARKLAY]

And some countries make people believe that Osama is alive - another point of view in press.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sanAt4NbCYw

[Canas Renvall]

Oh, I agree - I'm pretty sure that most politcians don't classify as white men because when the skin is peeled off they're actually reptillian people with fangs for sucking blood and cash from the lower classes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO8zsGvV4QQ

[Darkmoon]

How many are idiots who are out for the quick buck? Pretty much all of them. And facts and figures won't explain overall intention.. They do not represent me and they do not represent you either. As I said earlier, being honest and doing what needs to be done is never popular in this type of system.

Oh, I agree - I'm pretty sure that most politcians don't classify as white men because when the skin is peeled off they're actually reptillian people with fangs for sucking blood and cash from the lower classes.

But that being said, in situations like this, you can only work in broad degrees. They'll be white folk who've suffered hideous racial abuse and black guys rolling in money there parents gave them - but the simple truth is that the majoirty of the time it's the other way around. And it shouldn't be.

This suddenly reminded me of a news article I saw recently: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-2278522.html what a bastard!

...I'm going with yes, he is an asshole. 'Get out there and go yay for the guy who sexually violated you, now!' doesn't seem to be right. And I can't believe that a judge actually upheld that. I'm not a big fan of human rights, since asshats seem to abuse the shit out of them, but this seems like a case where they should be involved. If it's against prisoner's rights to not be allowed to vote in General Elctions, it's gotta be against someone's rights to be forced to cheer on there own rapist.

[Zombie Fred]

[ANDYARKLAY]

You're the reason gay people get bashed, because you believe every single gay person is a sex-crazed demon. You just lost all credibility, and yes, you do sound very stupid saying that. People like that make me sick.

I'm not too tolerant, that true. Thats just my opinion . Most of people i know not too tolerant - some of them really hate gays like nazi used hate.

You're the reason gay people get bashed, because you believe every single gay person is a sex-crazed demon.

Well i just think so. I read it and i understand that few of them are "demons"(thats a right logic) but when i see them - "Demons"(that logic disappear)! This is one of key things why most of people people hate gays.

[Canas Renvall]

A. [maturity]Andy, I respect your opinion, but I do not agree with it.[/maturity]

You're the reason gay people get bashed, because you believe every single gay person is a sex-crazed demon. You just lost all credibility, and yes, you do sound very stupid saying that. People like that make me sick.

B. How in the hell did this derail so fast?

C. I feel like yes, there will be retaliation for what we've done. However, with our defenses up, I think they will all, or almost all fail. I suspect nothing major will occur, though every small tragedy can quickly add up.

[ANDYARKLAY]

Natural selection makes the gays stronger and better!

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Truth is, natural selection has left gays in the world for a reason and now science is trying to work out what makes someone gay

Well everyone had a chance to be gay - its genes. But i think its not a natural selection left gays - maybe some random "genes glitch" make it.
As for me i don't care about all gays which are not close than in a 15 meters from me.
I don't like that in some countries gays trying to build communities to archieve political power in order to get privelegies.
Sorry for being so stupid about this but if i'm in one room with gay and some normal people - i think that he wants my ass or wants to be f***ed here and now.
And i hate and unrespect "people" who became (don't care how) gays(in prison/army etc.).
In brief i'm more negative than neutral.

what a bastard!

Is there anyone who thinks that its better to be such bastard than gay?

Hm, what do you think - in which country you can be thrown in jail if you said sth against gay community?

On topic: Well, there will be no new info till sth happens...

[Scream]

Then we have politics. How many white, male politicans are there in the UK?

How many are idiots who are out for the quick buck? Pretty much all of them. And facts and figures won't explain overall intention.. They do not represent me and they do not represent you either. As I said earlier, being honest and doing what needs to be done is never popular in this type of system.

Well, for a start, very few rapes ever actual result in a conviction, and women are often treated in those cases like it's all there fault. Women still work more for less pay than there average white male counterpart. The same goes for most non-white groups.

This suddenly reminded me of a news article I saw recently: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-2278522.html what a bastard!

[Trent]

Well, the first sentence is false. The rest is correct. This is a situation where a quote has been used to prove one's point/view, even though the quote is about something entirely different. Basically, the quote was used out of context.

[WeskerIncarnate]

Go back a few pages, we already discussed this.

Indeed, and I hold Dr. MLK's views on the matter, if you recall the quote Darkmoon posted... which was an altered quote that was mostly false, apparently.

Doesn't change the fact that those are the views I hold, however.

[Darkmoon]

Yeah, I saw that. Made me go Doh.

[Bertha]

I love how this has gone from a debate about bin Laden to a discussion on gender and homosexuality. Off topic much?

Also Darkmoon....just because you quoted MLK you may want to check out this link.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/social.media/05/03/quotes.twain.mlk/index.html

Don't you just love when people misquote or alter famous phrases?

[Darkmoon]

She can pull the gender or rape card on me and I'm screwed. Simple as that. What do I have?

Well, for a start, very few rapes ever actual result in a conviction, and women are often treated in those cases like it's all there fault. Women still work more for less pay than there average white male counterpart. The same goes for most non-white groups.

Then we have politics. How many white, male politicans are there in the UK? I'd bet a pound to the penny that in terms of percentage there are way more white male politicians than there are white males to represent. So, the laws of the land are made by white males.

Look at it like this, dude - most of the western world is geared towards the norm, which is white hetero guys. Other races, sexes and such are simply yelling louder to get heard now, which is a good thing. Despite what the daily mail claims, imigrants aren't stealing all the council houses, you don't get more money if you aren't white when you're on the dole, and while there are sometimes targets in large buisnesses and unis for minority placements it's rarely proportional to the actual population - an intake of 5% coloured students in an area with 12% non whites and such.

Things are still pretty sweet for white guys. We're unlikely to get discrimiation from the cops, ambulance workers and such. We're less likely to get arrested, full stop, and far less likely to get arrested for something we didn't do. In the media, the bulk of the people on TV are white with token female and minority parts - it's my sole criticism of Firefly. In a Unverise where chinese is the main tounge there's no Chinese on the damned ship.

If you want, you can try arguing this with my wife. She knows a lot more than I do, including facts and numbers.

Three years sociology in uni, good god. How about three years living in the real world..

Left to fend for herself as a kid, physically, mentally and sexually abusive homelife, escaped by literally flying to a different continent when 18...then got married, made homeless, got a home, had three kids, got a degree and is currently setting up her own buisness. Real enough for you?