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I... guess. Maybe the real problem for me was her voice. Why oh why did they not re-enlist her Remake VA? She was perfect. She had the whole, 'Well, everything is fucked, but oh, I'm not going to have a tantrum over it'. Coldness, I suppose. I love the bit when she goes ahead and throws up, and then gets over it right away. Real strong will. Body goes ahead and acts on the impulse of disgust, but the mind remains in check.
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I can't be assed reading through this huge thread but surely I'm not the only one who thought that:
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Jill in her birdwoman outfit looks almost EXACTLY like Nina Williams (from Tekken) especially the gear she wears in the spin off game 'Death by Degrees'!
I was like "Wow, I can't believe that Birdwoman is Nina Williams!!! I never would have guessed that!"
It a nice outfit and I was pretty impressed with Jill's brief appearance in the game. There are some GREAT fight scenes!
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Spoiler:Originally posted by Skunky View PostI can't be assed reading through this huge thread but surely I'm not the only one who thought that:
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Jill in her birdwoman outfit looks almost EXACTLY like Nina Williams (from Tekken) especially the gear she wears in the spin off game 'Death by Degrees'!
I was like "Wow, I can't believe that Birdwoman is Nina Williams!!! I never would have guessed that!"
It a nice outfit and I was pretty impressed with Jill's brief appearance in the game. There are some GREAT fight scenes!
She looks like the Terminator from T3 or a refuge from Metal Gear if you ask me...
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I feel you. I think it's finally time for me to accept Resident Evil 3 was the last game in the series. At least for me. I've made up my mind now.Originally posted by Zimdictive View PostI just looked at Rakkoon's sig and avatar just above me, and actually felt a powerful urge to vomit over my keyboard.
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Jill is not dead, as expected, but...that's not Jill...as expected.
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Spoiler:Originally posted by Rakkoon View PostI feel you. I think it's finally time for me to accept Resident Evil 3 was the last game in the series. At least for me. I've made up my mind now.
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Jill is not dead, as expected, but...that's not Jill...as expected.
I think they made her look right in an extra costume in mercenaries, but I only managed to unlock Chris' STARS version so far. If the next game is hers, which I do anticipate after finishing RE5, I hope to fucking hell she'll have got over her issues with... uh... everything.
But can you remember that cut scene in the bathroom in Remake where she finds that zombie in the bath and throws up, all casual like, after killing it, and gets over it? That, for me, epitomises all that Jill is, and I love her for it. Full of attitude. :3
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Yeah, I remember that scene. It was a good scene.
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I just really hate Jill's hair now. A blonde ponytail? This is ridiculous. Seriously, I can't stand it and I hate it they changed her hair like that. I am so disappointed, because Claire was great in Degeneration, so why did they ruin Jill? The hair is giving me a headache.
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I'm with you on that, mate. It's a serious pain. IMHO, a bob cut is the best damn hairstyle a gal can have. Oh, I can't say much because I'm in horrible destructive 4chan mode.Originally posted by Rakkoon View PostYeah, I remember that scene. It was a good scene.
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I just really hate Jill's hair now. A blonde ponytail? This is ridiculous. Seriously, I can't stand it and I hate it they changed her hair like that. I am so disappointed, because Claire was great in Degeneration, so why did they ruin Jill? The hair is giving me a headache.
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Spoiler:Originally posted by Rakkoon View PostYeah, I remember that scene. It was a good scene.
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I just really hate Jill's hair now. A blonde ponytail? This is ridiculous. Seriously, I can't stand it and I hate it they changed her hair like that. I am so disappointed, because Claire was great in Degeneration, so why did they ruin Jill? The hair is giving me a headache.
Ruin Jill? Give me a fucking break. I always thought Jill was kind of a boring character, and her retarded street walker outfit in RE3 didn't really help her appeal. However, for me RE5 made Jill very interesting all of a sudden. The part where you have to remove her chest thing is definately a top 3 epic moment in the RE series for me, and that's coming from someone who wasn't really a Jill fan before. After RE5 though her notch went up quite high in my book.
And her hair? Come on... It's grown, and she's put it in a ponytail since she's doing pretty physical stuff. It would be silly if she still had the RE1 haircut after 10 years, wouldn't it? Jesus find something real to complain about.
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"Oh, wahhh!! Capcom changed her hair! The series has died for me!" <- Give me an F-ing break!
You sound completely spoiled and narrow minded! Stop being so conservative. People change their hair.. AND, if you knew anything about the game, it is described why her hair has turned blonde!
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It wasn't dyed that way! During experimentation on her, her hair and skin lost pigment, making her extremely white and took the color from her hair. She was lost for 3 years; so, of course her hair is going to grow. A bob is fine to keep down, but nobody wants to be flipping around matrix style with hair flying in your face = it's annoying! Hence, the pony-tail.
I think she looks hot in a fair-haired vampire way!Last edited by Cellardoorsolar; 03-12-2009, 09:07 PM.
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This is my angle... Durr, and for the two posters before, the blandness hasn't just stopped at her appearance, it continued to her overall personality. Standard. Clichéd. Not Jill. If you read my earlier posts, back when I finished RE5 a couple days back, you'd get the angle. And, Sina: Learn2play RE pre-4 proper.Originally posted by ValentineKnight View PostJill is Jill regardless of hair and I still love her but I will say she looks kind of generic to me now not just the hair it's mostly the catsuit...
(Eh, 4chan, what have you done to me?)
EDIT: I'm going to flesh this out. No, wait, I'm not. I'm going to bash my head against a proverbial wall as I despair in just how widely the point was missed. It wasn't even diluted in that much sarcasm and irrelevance, guys!
Oh well, I still have hope for Capcom, if not for you lot.
I played MvC2 yesterday. Jill's combos are fancy, and she can swing a proper punch. And if you get close, she'll take a vicious swipe with a combat knife at your general midriff. That's before you summons mutant dogs and crows on you. :3
Last edited by Zimdictive; 03-13-2009, 08:09 AM.
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Right, because the only reason you couldn't like Jill is because you didn't play RE1/RE3 enough?Originally posted by Zimdictive View PostAnd, Sina: Learn2play RE pre-4 proper.
In RE1 she didn't really have any defining personality traits, she was just the token heroine. A master of lockpicking doesn't count as a personality trait.
In RE3 I didn't really find her to be an appealing character personality wise, and making her dress like a lady of the night just made sure anything she said or did in the game couldn't be taken that seriously, especially her little attempt at poetry in the intro... ugh. But her one virtue was that she was the original RE character, but other than that she's always been pretty bland.
The direction they took with her now was the only sensible thing they could've done to evolve the character and make her interesting.
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