The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[missvalentine]

That might explain an increase in speed, strength and stamina but it dosn't really explain the highly technical high kicks and wrestling moves...

Unless they downloaded stuff, directly into her brain (Like Keanu Reeves in the Matrix). Maybe Jill opened her eyes and said, "I know kung fu". (that part was later cut out of the game)

well since Wesker was controlling her, something like downloading is quite likely, or Wesker just made her fight like that with his brain or something or he trained her.

also i was just wondering, does anyone know if capcom, or anyone has a render of both RE5 Jill models, and Claire's Degeneration model?

[Vector]

That might explain an increase in speed, strength and stamina but it dosn't really explain the highly technical high kicks and wrestling moves...

That's that good ol' P30 for ya!

[Mr. Spencer]

Jill's melee moves and knifing animation in mercs is the best. i love her in mercs, but the problem is i hate mercs mode.

i only liked RE3's mercs.

also Rakkoon i haven't read the entire topic, but i agree about Jill's hair, i really cannot stand her being blonde, even if it is just temporary. i liked how she was brunette again in mercs though.

so im hopeing for her to appear in RE6 with her normal hair again, also i think she looks cuter with shorter hair.

I give up.

First you kids bitch about Jill being dead, then when she's confirmed as alive you then complain about her being evil, then when she's turned good you THEN complain about her hair colour being blonde. It's utterly preposterous.

[News Bot]

That might explain an increase in speed, strength and stamina but it dosn't really explain the highly technical high kicks and wrestling moves...

Basic training courses. With P30, she already had all of the "skill" available.

[Bertha]

I give up.

First you kids bitch about Jill being dead, then when she's confirmed as alive you then complain about her being evil, then when she's turned good you THEN complain about her hair colour being blonde. It's utterly preposterous.

It's like I said before....there's just no pleasing a fanatic unless you give them exactly what they want, which is the unrealistic ideas they got about their character in the first place. People are going to keep bitching about what they get no matter what.

[Jill's Boob]

I'm still trying to understand the "appeal of Jill." (Tao of Jill?) I mean, I've played RE1, REmake, RE3, REUC, and RE5...and I just don't see how she is this life-altering character.

She's as developed as pretty much every other RE hero, which is to say, not much. You know next to nothing about these characters, but merely guide them through a game. I can see favoring them a bit, but there isn't much substance to become "obsessed" with them.

Jill escaped from a mansion, escaped from Racoon City, and helped form the BSAA. Along the way she never really achieved any great character transformations or displayed any significant personality traits.

She is just a "cute lil' woman in a blue outfit." Why then do I get the impression some folks would off themselves if Jill was actually slain in her fictitious realm?

[BadWolfX]

It's like I said before....there's just no pleasing a fanatic unless you give them exactly what they want, which is the unrealistic ideas they got about their character in the first place. People are going to keep bitching about what they get no matter what.

Agreed. I don't even see why her hair color would matter - besides it's explained. If she returns it's likely that it'll be reverted to her normal hair. Changing the style and making her paler seemed to be a way of saying that this isn't our Jill anymore.

[ValentineKnight]

I give up.

First you kids bitch about Jill being dead, then when she's confirmed as alive you then complain about her being evil, then when she's turned good you THEN complain about her hair colour being blonde. It's utterly preposterous.

Hey now...I don't mind Jill being pale and blonde...I think it makes her hotter I was just worried people wouldn't recognise her if she was blonde

[Bertha]

I'm still trying to understand the "appeal of Jill." (Tao of Jill?) I mean, I've played RE1, REmake, RE3, REUC, and RE5...and I just don't see how she is this life-altering character.

She's as developed as pretty much every other RE hero, which is to say, not much. You know next to nothing about these characters, but merely guide them through a game. I can see favoring them a bit, but there isn't much substance to become "obsessed" with them.

Jill escaped from a mansion, escaped from Racoon City, and helped form the BSAA. Along the way she never really achieved any great character transformations or displayed any significant personality traits.

She is just a "cute lil' woman in a blue outfit." Why then do I get the impression some folks would off themselves if Jill was actually slain in her fictitious realm?

I think people have a hard time dealing with the idea that Jill is really a sidekick for Chris. Yes she gets her own game, yes she's the RE darling that gets thrown into any other Capcom crossover...but the entire time she's not with Chris, she's looking for him, and when she's with him, she's providing back up. I'm willing to bet that if Chris had just given up after the events in CV, we'd never see Jill again.

[Vector]

I think people have a hard time dealing with the idea that Jill is really a sidekick for Chris. Yes she gets her own game, yes she's the RE darling that gets thrown into any other Capcom crossover...but the entire time she's not with Chris, she's looking for him, and when she's with him, she's providing back up. I'm willing to bet that if Chris had just given up after the events in CV, we'd never see Jill again.

Well...fucking...said. Seriously. Her appearance in RE5(as a shitty plot device) was because Chris was the main character. No other reason. Now, you've got me thinking. And I'm thinking about one thing in particular. Follow me if you will...


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Jill's diary in RE3:

August 7th

Two weeks have passed since that day. My wounds have been healed, but I just
can't forget it. For most people, it's history now. But for me, whenever I
close my eyes, it all comes back clearly. Zombies eating people's flesh and the
screams of my teammates dying. No, the wounds in my heart are not healed yet...

August 13th

Chris has been causing a lot of trouble recently. What's with him? He seldom
talks to the other police members and is constantly irritated. The other day,
he punched Elran of the Boy's Crime department just for accidentally splashing
Chris's face with coffee. I immediately stopped Chris, but when he saw me he
just gave me a wink and walked away. I wonder what happened to him...

August 15th

Midnight. Chris, who has been on a leave of absence for a "vacation,"
called me so I visited his apartment. As soon as I walked into his room, he
showed me a couple of pieces of paper. They were part of a virus research
report entitled as simply as "G". Then Chris told me that "The nightmare still
continues." He went on to say that "It's not over yet." Ever since that day,
he has been fighting all by himself without rest, without even telling me.

August 24th

Chris left the town today to go to Europe. Barry told me that he would send his
family to Canada and then he would follow Chris. I decided to remain in Raccoon
City for a while because I know that the research facility in this city will be
very important to this entire case. In a month or so, I'll be joining with
them somewhere in Europe. That's when my real battle begins...

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Notice a trend here?

Oh God, that's it. The floodgates have opened. The first shot hath been fired.
This topic will soon get very interesting again.

[BLSR1]

And then a thousand fanatics cried out in agony...

[blaze]

Well...fucking...said. Seriously. Her appearance in RE5(as a shitty plot device) was because Chris was the main character. No other reason. Now, you've got me thinking. And I'm thinking about one thing in particular. Follow me if you will...


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Jill's diary in RE3:

August 7th

Two weeks have passed since that day. My wounds have been healed, but I just
can't forget it. For most people, it's history now. But for me, whenever I
close my eyes, it all comes back clearly. Zombies eating people's flesh and the
screams of my teammates dying. No, the wounds in my heart are not healed yet...

August 13th

Chris has been causing a lot of trouble recently. What's with him? He seldom
talks to the other police members and is constantly irritated. The other day,
he punched Elran of the Boy's Crime department just for accidentally splashing
Chris's face with coffee. I immediately stopped Chris, but when he saw me he
just gave me a wink and walked away. I wonder what happened to him...

August 15th

Midnight. Chris, who has been on a leave of absence for a "vacation,"
called me so I visited his apartment. As soon as I walked into his room, he
showed me a couple of pieces of paper. They were part of a virus research
report entitled as simply as "G". Then Chris told me that "The nightmare still
continues." He went on to say that "It's not over yet." Ever since that day,
he has been fighting all by himself without rest, without even telling me.

August 24th

Chris left the town today to go to Europe. Barry told me that he would send his
family to Canada and then he would follow Chris. I decided to remain in Raccoon
City for a while because I know that the research facility in this city will be
very important to this entire case. In a month or so, I'll be joining with
them somewhere in Europe. That's when my real battle begins...

----

Notice a trend here?

Oh God, that's it. The floodgates have opened. The first shot hath been fired.
This topic will soon get very interesting again.

Chris, Chris, Chris. She's like a broken record.



I think it's cute that she was all about Chris (man, her boyfriend must've been suspicious x] ).

In REmake they were pretty much equal though, as both got their scenarios, but Jill's journal entries made it obvious that Chris was the one that lost the most sleep over what happened, and it was mostly HIS goal to go after Wesker and Umbrella.

I think you're right... she remained in the fight more in support of him than anything. She wanted stay in because she wanted to help him. Aw.

As for the 'stand offish' vibe between Chris and Jill, when she was finally rescued: I think it's because Jill saw that Chris had hooked up with the younger and sexier Sheva. She must have been pissed off.
I understand where Chris is coming from. Jill is nice but after hanging with the exotic Sheva for a while, I was ready to trade in and upgrade too.
Although Jill does get some extra points for dressing up in that catsuit.

There was so no Chris/Sheva hookupage... Chris made it hard for there to be any. I imagine Sheva secretly wanted to push him off a cliff because Chris was all "Jill?! Where's Jill?! Gotta find Jill! Can I see Jill now?! How bout now?! JILL?!" the whole game. I would've smacked him out of annoyance or something if I were her

And Chris didn't even want the "upgrade" that is Sheva. That was clear when he only had eyes for Jill's sick, colorless, tired form, and eternally scarred chest, when he finally found her. D'aww.

[Bertha]

Well...fucking...said. Seriously. Her appearance in RE5(as a shitty plot device) was because Chris was the main character. No other reason. Now, you've got me thinking. And I'm thinking about one thing in particular. Follow me if you will....

I was actually going to use that to further my argument but you beat me to it. Thanks partner.

And then a thousand fanatics cried out in agony...

NOOO! NOT TEH JILL!

There was so no Chris/Sheva hookupage... Chris made it hard for there to be any. I imagine Sheva secretly wanted to push him off a cliff because Chris was all "Jill?! Where's Jill?! Gotta find Jill! Can I see Jill now?! How bout now?! JILL?!" the whole game. I would've smacked him out of annoyance or something if I were her

And Chris didn't even want the "upgrade" that is Sheva. That was clear when he only had eyes for Jill's sick, colorless, tired form, and eternally scarred chest, when he finally found her. D'aww.

I agree. There was never any sexual tension/romantic connections between Chris and Sheva. Josh and Sheva obviously had a deep seeded relationship, something it seemed Chris picked up on. Besides...all he was thinking about was finding Jill and killing Wesker.

[A-J]

And then a thousand fanatics cried out in agony...

the prophecy has come true :O

[Irontrooper]

I give up.

First you kids bitch about Jill being dead, then when she's confirmed as alive you then complain about her being evil, then when she's turned good you THEN complain about her hair colour being blonde. It's utterly preposterous.

The sad fact is, no one will ever be completely pleased and everyone tries to find something to complain about. Unfortunate, but that's the way of the world.