Official Resident Evil 5 Spoilers Topic (READ FIRST POST)

[Vector]

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The figures in the tube look more masculine than feminine. Remember what Wesker said?

"Uroburos is on the eve of its appearance."

Those things in the capsules could be more of them. I've heard that Chris and Sheva fight 2 Uroburos in the game. Why couldn't TriCell be manufacturing them? Especially when Excella and Wesker are working so closely together. TriCell could be the ones manufacturing BOWs for Wesker 'new world'.

My thoughts exactly. I expressed these thoughts in the News Archive thread about the commercial:

http://www.the-horror.com/forums/showpost.php?p=79937&postcount=19

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it wouldn't really be cloning, would it? It would just be more mass-production of more B.O.W.'s.

[Vogue_Dirge]

My thoughts exactly. I expressed these thoughts in the News Archive thread about the commercial:

http://www.the-horror.com/forums/showpost.php?p=79937&postcount=19

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it wouldn't really be cloning, would it? It would just be more mass-production of more B.O.W.'s.

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Why would Excella just let Chris and Sheva fight Uroburos? If there was only one, Excella would throw it into a potential fight that it could be destroyed in. The way she says: "You've spent so much time looking for Uroburos, well, here you go." makes me feel like she is really saying "Go at it, have fun, we have A LOT more."

[P Anderson DIE]

Regarding spoilers and total gameplay time.

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As far as the spoilers go I find it hard to imagine we are going to get anymore new footage. Untill it's released in Japan of course. They have shown quite alot but the total cutscene time is 80 minutes and the gameplay is round 8 hours I hear. Still though thats about 10% at most we have seen so don't worry I'm sure theres gonna be loads of suprises for us even if you are up to date with all the spoilers so far.

[Vogue_Dirge]

Not really a 'spoiler' but here it goes:

I've found out some background information on Uroburos and it's mythology that is quite interesting, and might give us a clue as to what role it will play in Resident Evil 5.



The Ouroboros (spelled in RE5 as Uroburos) often represents self-reflexivity or cyclicality, especially in the sense of something constantly re-creating itself, the eternal return, and other things perceived as cycles that begin anew as soon as they end. It can also represent the idea of primordial unity related to something existing in or persisting from the beginning with such force or qualities it cannot be extinguished.

In psychology the term is also used to represent a pre-ego, or "dawn state".

Plato described Uroburos as a self-eating, circular being as the first living thing in the universe—an immortal, perfectly constructed animal.

Certainly interesting how similar the mythology of Uroburos seems to match, eh?

[Wesker's Shadow]

That's some really interesting information on Uroboros there, Vogue_Dirge. Thanks for sharing. I'm intrigued to see how that would work into the game.


About the syringe:

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Perhaps it means the following:

PG = Progenitor or Project G
67 = The year the mother virus was deemed successful, or the subject's test number
AW= Albert Wesker perhaps?

[Vector]

To be fair, a lot of people knew what Ouroboros was before RE5, and I don't think there's any coincidence that the 'doomsday project' in RE5 is named what it is. Nevertheless, thanks for posting that, because a lot of people apparently didn't know about Ouroboros before RE5.

[P Anderson DIE]

Spoilers regarding the Total cutscene time and total cutscene time shown in trailers.

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Ok so I had a go at counting the total time of cutscenes shown in the trailers. Give or take a 1 minute or 2 each way, The rough number I got was 14 minutes. Out of 80 minutes total cutscene time it is quite alot actually more than I thought but still we have around 66 minutes of unseen cutscenes thats over an hour so I'll settle for that. I think I got every trailer, this is not including the viral videos. I may have missed one or two of the 15 and 30 second tv spots but like I said give or take a min or two. Dont ask about gameplay shown because I dont really care about that dont consider it spoilers.

[fkn SeeOhDeeWhy]

as long as jill doesnt die..

she was the only reason i made it through resident evil GC.

and shes a main character to capcom i believe since she was the only RE character in marvel vs capcom 2..

but what do i know

[Darinl1979]

as long as jill doesnt die..

she was the only reason i made it through resident evil GC.

and shes a main character to capcom i believe since she was the only RE character in marvel vs capcom 2..

but what do i know

She could still die, considering theres going to be a "reboot" of the franchise and that we dont know if that includes story or just gameplay...this game could be the end of the storylines of all the characters we know. Jill dying could really add alot to the storyline, if done right. At least shes seemingly an integral part of this game.

[CubedSphere]

I think people are looking too deep into these "reboot" comments. We're not going to see a complete abandonment of the character we've seen to this point. RE5 is just likely going to close the lengthy chapter that was the Raccoon City/Umbrella incident. It's clear to me that 5 will be the last mention of Umbrella and all the major events that stemmed from Raccoon City. I'm betting on Excella, Tri-Cell and Kijuju becoming the new Wesker, Umbrella and Raccoon City in terms of their roles (main antagonist, evil corporation, and starting place of the events that are to unfold in the future).

Basically, I think gameplay is the reboot they speak of and not the storyline so much. It seems quite far-fetched to expect them to drop Leon, Chris, Ada, etc. from future titles. Hell, even Takeuchi just said in a brand new interview that he'd like to see Barry of all people in a future title. If he can see Barry in the fanchise's future then I'm sure the lead characters will remain a part of the series.

That said I do hope Degeneration officially retired Claire from the series and that Jill dies in RE5. Not because I dislike them, but because the series is starting to create a monstrous cast rather than focusing on and developing deep stories for a select few. Frankly, by the end of RE5, I'd like Jill to be off'ed, Claire to leave the fighting to Chris and Leon, and at least one other character to be revealed as dead (even if that means Chris or Sheva being killed in the last cinematic of the game).

[trist]

^^^ Well I don't think Chris or Sheva or Claire die, they've all been featured in the viral vids, and even the actress for Sheva says she would like to see her play a role in future games.

I tend to think that article about co-op being a natural evolution is where the series is truly headed. Who knows what RE6 will be like. Maybe another co-op or better yet, a mission so HUGE several BSAA members are needed to fight, which will lead to multi-player. That is where the money in games lies right now. May as well cash in on it.

Could be very fun getting to see several characters we've never seen intereact with each other doing so.

[xfactor]

I agree with that they might want to trim off some of the characters now, but I actually think the first they should off is Barry. He's been doing nothing since RE3. He's helped Chris/Jill because he was feeling guilty to them for betraying them during RE1, but now that Umbrella is dead, he have nothing to do now. On the other hand, I hope they'll at least squeeze in a role for Barry, maybe a cameo appearance as a BSAA weapon specialist or something.

Personally, I'll prefer them to kills off Claire as she is not as popular as Jill, but I guess that since Jill have already made so many appearances, maybe they want to pass the 'iconic RE heroine' status to Claire now as Jill's getting old (timeline-wise).

And kills off Steve. I have no idea why do they continue to leave this plot string hanging when its going no where. Sherry can be a boss fight in the last RE game.

I don't see Excella being a good replacement for Wesker. For the non-protagonist side, we have only Ada Wong. An interaction for their side (Excella and Ada) wouldn't work well as they are of the same genders. Wesker should survive, but tone him down while elevate Excella and Ada to the same importance level to the series. A mixed working relationship of Wesker/Ada/Excella will be interesting.

[Jill Lover]

Jill getting old? Lara Croft is 50 years old and she looks fantastic! It's ridiculous for them to say that Jill might get old so they pass the iconic RE status to Claire who is LESS yes THAT LESS popular than Jill Valentine. I think Capcom just wanted to catch our attention... I may be wrong though.

[ValentineKnight]

34 ain't old dude...

and Lara's 50?! I swear I thought she was 30ish tops 0.0

[Archelon]

It is in the world of Resident Evil. Once you reach 30, you might as well be 50. Chris and Wesker seem to be the exceptions to that rule, but Wesker has the added benefit of his miracle virus.