Resident Evil Damnation

[alexdz]

Whos this Carla i keep hearing about? i never read anything about her in any of the games.

New character from RE6.

[vegeta21x]

Whos this Carla i keep hearing about? i never read anything about her in any of the games.

[AsteroidBlues]

The dominant species Plagas that Ada retrieves in BH4 and Damnation are different kinds. The latter appear to be functionally useless, lacking superhuman strength and eventually just turning the host into a Ganado-Zombie. Why Ada actually acknowledges them as defective yet retrieves one anyway is a bit odd, but I guess anything is of potential use, similar to how Wesker wrote off t-Veronica yet it was used quite successfully for the development of B.O.W.s.

Well, the I assumed that the latter "Master" plaga was manufactured in this way on purpose. The Government was giving them to the elders all in an attempt to make the Rebels look like bio-terrorists. (which they were in the end... but no matter) The plaga gave the rebels control of the lickers so they would eventually attack the Capital with them, thus staging the bio-terror attack the President was planning.

You obviously don't want any one rebel to have such power for long, so you give them an expiration date; I.e. the plaga will turn you into a mindless Ganado after a short period of time thus loosing the lickers from your control. The exclusion of super-human strength was for the same reason.

As for Ada stealing a Plaga that seems outwardly inferior, we have to remember that it did make a huge breakthrough in B.O.W. technology- The ability to control B.O.W.s that are usually to wild and unpredictable to use in a concentrated fashion. As far as I know, the only type of B.O.W. in the RE universe that could be controlled in such a way was the Tyrant, which is a hard beasty to create. Having droves of lickers at one's command is a powerful weapon. A team of scientists could take this plaga and remove the "ganadofication" traits, restore super-human strength, and have one of the most effective Plagas species that the world has ever seen.

There's also a bit of contention as to whether the dominant species Plaga in general was natural or if it was developed. There's not a lot of info, and there's still Luis's suspect mention of the t-Virus in BH4 and the mention of him actually developing the dominant species for the cult in Archives II. That would certainly explain why Saddler trusted him so much before and why he had access to them in order to steal one.

Well I can confirm that Luis didn't develop the dominant species.

Well, didn't material from RE4 state that the Plagas were being used to control the population back when the Salazar family first moved into the region? (shortly before they buried the plagas under the Castle) Wouldn't that indicate that both Master and subordinate species existed in some form at that point?

[News Bot]

Well I can confirm that Luis didn't develop the dominant species.

[AsteroidBlues]

I know the frames are similar, but M1911 is a Colt model.

Yes, the 1911 was ORIGINALLY made by colt, but you will see that many companies use the original military schematics to make their own M1911-A1's to sell, which they ALSO call the 1911. They're all M1911's, just made by different manufacturers. The STI frames are 90% original, featuring additions and modifications that "supposedly" improve on the classic 1911 design. You'll see this with many ex- and current military weapons. There are a million companies out there selling AR-15's, but it's still an AR-15 built straight from the military schematics.

Didn't Leon just shoot it dead? I'm not sure they actually got around to removing it.

There is no way that they're going to leave a Plaga to turn to goo inside of him as it rots, they'd have to take it out or he'd die.

The dominant species Plagas that Ada retrieves in BH4 and Damnation are different kinds. The latter appear to be functionally useless, lacking superhuman strength and eventually just turning the host into a Ganado-Zombie. Why Ada actually acknowledges them as defective yet retrieves one anyway is a bit odd, but I guess anything is of potential use, similar to how Wesker wrote off t-Veronica yet it was used quite successfully for the development of B.O.W.s.

There's also a bit of contention as to whether the dominant species Plaga in general was natural or if it was developed. There's not a lot of info, and there's still Luis's suspect mention of the t-Virus in BH4 and the mention of him actually developing the dominant species for the cult in Archives II. That would certainly explain why Saddler trusted him so much before and why he had access to them in order to steal one.

So, in essence, we won't know shit until the new Archives edition comes out?

[News Bot]

The dominant species Plagas that Ada retrieves in BH4 and Damnation are different kinds. The latter appear to be functionally useless, lacking superhuman strength and eventually just turning the host into a Ganado-Zombie. Why Ada actually acknowledges them as defective yet retrieves one anyway is a bit odd, but I guess anything is of potential use, similar to how Wesker wrote off t-Veronica yet it was used quite successfully for the development of B.O.W.s.

There's also a bit of contention as to whether the dominant species Plaga in general was natural or if it was developed. There's not a lot of info, and there's still Luis's suspect mention of the t-Virus in BH4 and the mention of him actually developing the dominant species for the cult in Archives II. That would certainly explain why Saddler trusted him so much before and why he had access to them in order to steal one.

[biohazard_star]

Obviously... What I'm stating is that there are TWO of those master plagas in existence now- The live one that Ada has in her possession and the dead one they pulled from Buddy. That means that the U.S. probably got hold of that specimen.

Didn't Leon just shoot it dead? I'm not sure they actually got around to removing it.

[Archelon]

I know the frames are similar, but M1911 is a Colt model.

[AsteroidBlues]

The Plaga Buddy had was removed, that's why he's on a wheelchair.

Obviously... What I'm stating is that there are TWO of those master plagas in existence now- The live one that Ada has in her possession and the dead one they pulled from Buddy. That means that the U.S. probably got hold of that specimen.

And the scar on Svetlana's back is just a scar, nothing indicates it has any relation with bio-weapons or viruses. Maybe the producers wanted to give her an appearence of a person that's been through a lot but did it in the wrong way because now everyone thinks it's something relevant to the plot.

Perhaps we'll found out for sure in the future.

Not quite.

It's an STI model.

http://www.pic2fly.com/STI+Pistol+Frames.html

STI frames are slightly modified M1911-A1 pistol frames. So, essentially, that was an M1911.

[Archelon]

Well, it looks like we'll have to wait for an artbook or something if we expect to get some answers regarding the plot. The BluRay extra features explain nothing.

[SPOILER]Another thing I found noteworthy was his upgrade from the 9mm 'Grey Ghost' pistol he used in RE4/Degeneration to a much beefier .45 ACP M1911

Not quite.

It's an STI model.

http://www.pic2fly.com/STI+Pistol+Frames.html

[alexdz]

Also, the plagas that Ada refused to hand over, I assume it was one of the newly developed master plagas that could control the lickers, right? If that's the case, that means there are at least two floating around out there- Ada's and the other in the now wheelchair bound "Buddy".

Another thing, what was that scar about on the president's back? It royally confused me, I assumed I had missed something so I went back but couldn't find a reference to it. Anybody have any ideas on that?
[/SPOILER]

The Plaga Buddy had was removed, that's why he's on a wheelchair.

And the scar on Svetlana's back is just a scar, nothing indicates it has any relation with bio-weapons or viruses. Maybe the producers wanted to give her an appearence of a person that's been through a lot but did it in the wrong way because now everyone thinks it's something relevant to the plot.

[AsteroidBlues]

Just watched the movie... so epic, Leon is forever a badass. Now thar be spoilers ahead...

Spoiler:

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I'd have to say they improved from Degeneration about ten times, I really liked all of the POV shots. Of course, Leon has his fair share of corny dialog, but hell, that's the best part about him. Another thing I found noteworthy was his upgrade from the 9mm 'Grey Ghost' pistol he used in RE4/Degeneration to a much beefier .45 ACP M1911- Obviously he was given that weapon (as the rest of his gear) in haste and wasn't his choice, seeing how they pulled him from vacation, but it was still cool to see. And I wonder what his vacation was...

Now, on to the woman known as Ada Wong. Was that really Ada or was it Carla? The last scene where she said she was quite pleased with adding an international arrest warrant to her resume, I couldn't tell if that was typical Ada snark or perhaps a hint that this was Carla trying to besmirch Ada's... err... Good reputation? Also, the plagas that Ada refused to hand over, I assume it was one of the newly developed master plagas that could control the lickers, right? If that's the case, that means there are at least two floating around out there- Ada's and the other in the now wheelchair bound "Buddy".

Another thing, what was that scar about on the president's back? It royally confused me, I assumed I had missed something so I went back but couldn't find a reference to it. Anybody have any ideas on that?

Got the DVD today.

Spoiler:

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The Las Plagas: Organism of War feature is set up as quite a cool video report on each of the monsters we see in the film. It is narrated by a Dr. William Gibson who is working for an unknown organisation, although it is not US Government affiliated and it is not Ada's organisation.
The only really new information is that it confirms the cultivated plaga was developed by Svetlana's scientists and one of them was killed for leaking information to Dr. Gibson to make his video report. Unfortunately it tells us nothing new about the parasite itself.

Not watched all of DNA of Damnation yet but Shotaro Suga hints that Leon and Ada have had a romantic liason sometime following the events of Resident Evil 4, which is what Ada's line about 'carrying on from where we left off that night' is based on.

Spoiler:

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So you're telling me that THE SINGLE event that RE shippers the world over have been screaming for since RE2 has already happened, probably between RE4 and Damnation? (at most RE5) The single most clamored about event in the annals of shipping history has already occurred a long damn time ago? HA! The whole of the RE shipping infrastructure over on Tumblr will explode very shortly. xD So epic.

I never thought in my entire life I would feel sorry for Lickers lol

I have no feelings for those damn things. xD Like Leon said, "They don't make good pets"

[shanemurphy]

I never thought in my entire life I would feel sorry for Lickers lol

[TheBatMan]

Does it say anythign note worthy about the Tyrants?

Nothing we don't already know.

[alexdz]

Got the DVD today.

Spoiler:

show spoiler

The Las Plagas: Organism of War feature is set up as quite a cool video report on each of the monsters we see in the film. It is narrated by a Dr. William Gibson who is working for an unknown organisation, although it is not US Government affiliated and it is not Ada's organisation.
The only really new information is that it confirms the cultivated plaga was developed by Svetlana's scientists and one of them was killed for leaking information to Dr. Gibson to make his video report. Unfortunately it tells us nothing new about the parasite itself.

Not watched all of DNA of Damnation yet but Shotaro Suga hints that Leon and Ada have had a romantic liason sometime following the events of Resident Evil 4, which is what Ada's line about 'carrying on from where we left off that night' is based on.

Does it say anythign note worthy about the Tyrants?