Darkside Chronicles Official Thread

[News Bot]

I noticed that the other day as well. Essentially, both Darkside Chronicles and Code: Veronica are wrong.

[TheBatMan]

Nope, the developers just fucked up big time. For one thing, they kept Alfred's Diary, which lists his death as March 1982.

Since 1983 doesn't really make any sense, I'm inclined to stick with 1982. Since Alexia went into stasis on December 27th 1983, having her infect Alexander only the day before and to conduct all the research necessary (not to mention creating a specialised serum to combat Nosferatu's poison) etcetc is pretty dumb.

Sorry to bump this but i've just been flicking through the Code Veronica kaitaishinsho and the timeline on page 220 clearly states that Alexander was injected with T-Veronica in 1983.

The video must have been recorded in Dec 1982.

[Darkmoon]

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?

Well, I could be wrong, I must admit...but one, no other infection allowed a controlled mutation with the exception of Veronica which, again, requires a long time period in cryo before it's usuable. I also seem to remember that Krasuer and his arm leaked that odd greenish fluid, where as other mutants just leak blood, but I could be wrong.

Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.

Well, he certainly trusted Leon and Ashley. He didn't intend to use the Plagas to force Leon to become his personal bodyguard nor have Ashley infect her father.

...yeah. It makes a lot more sense that Krasuer was somehow under his control. This doesn't mean he couldn't have more free will than those two, of course, since he would likely have needed it for his missions, but it's possible that he could still control Krasuer directly. That doesn't mean he trusted him...if had to control him directly than Krasuer could still betray him when out of his sight, such as communicating with Wesker.

Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.

No, but the effects are zombiehood followed by Crimsonheadness and possibly Lickerdom or zombiehood or Lickerness. Or to become a Tyrant. There's no suggestion of anything like a controlled mutation except with Tyrants. We haven't seen any sign of an exception to mutation.

Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?

I have no idea. Haven't played it yet.

So it exists for no purpose. Gotcha.

Or, as has been suggested, the injury is a way that Krasuer gets recruited by Wesker. Or his way into the Las Plagas cult...give me back the use of my arm and I'll do whatever you want.

Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.[/QUOTE]

Or Wesker was somehow (I have no idea how he could obeserve his minion, what with the satelite he uses to watch Ada and all) and uses that information, along with Krasuer's probably reports to him and his knowledge of his fighting style and skills before to formulate some information...)

And given his loyalty to Wesker it's really not hard to imagine him sending reports and information back to Wesker to show him that Plagas was worth his time.

[News Bot]

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?

T-Veronica has very distinct traits, Krauser exhibits none of them. The T-virus also possesses none of Krauser's traits. The main distinction between the viruses and Las Plagas is that the viruses "kill" the host, who then has no control. The only exception being T-Veronica, but that requires a 15 year cryogenic stasis/organ transplant session. And with the latter, the host doesn't possess any abnormal superhuman traits. Manuela, at most, had a visibly infected arm and flammable blood from said arm, but nothing else. Krauser on the other hand has superhuman abilities and a mutated arm, and has complete control. These are Las Plagas traits.

Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.

Krauser had access to the island's lab facilities anyway. He could easily have a Plaga variant engineered for him. He wouldn't need Saddler's consent in the matter.

Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.

Aside from Hilda and the Tyrants, yeah it does. And whats more, it affects the entire body.

Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.

You're taking Ada's line out of context. She doesn't specifically say that she has seen his arm, only that she knows there's something about it and she can deal with it if necessary. She is talking about his general combat style. Again, try not relying too much on the localized English script for your evidence. It will get you no where and it is incredibly likely that what you use as evidence will actually be something else entirely.

Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?

No.

[Kaneco]

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?



Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.




Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.



Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?



So it exists for no purpose. Gotcha.




Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.

Good observation...but I guess it will be left a mystery until the Darkside
report comes out (I hope something useful comes out of that).

[Becky's Butt]

Krauser's arm transforms in the same as Las Plagas mutants,

And what exactly are the huge notable visual differences between a Las Plagas mutation and any other kind of mutation in RE?

he's in the employ of a man who sticks Plagas in everyone who worked for him to make sure they remained loyal and

Who was at a loss for how to get rid of Krauser and who had pretty much said he would not give Las Plagas to people he didn't trust. And he never trusted Krauser.

Where as I understand the monster that wounds his arm is either a T-Virus creation (in which case Krauser's being infected would result in his death and reanimation, not a mutant killer arm

Not necessarily. The T-Virus doesn't always have the same result on people.

he can control) or the T-Veronica virus (which, if he was able to control it, would reult in him spurting fire. After being in Cryostasis for the next decade and a half and travelling back in time to annoy Leon)

Didn't DSC basically give T-Veronic a whole buncha new nifty abilities?

and really doesn't support the idea that it's anything other than Plagas.

So it exists for no purpose. Gotcha.

And Ada knowing about his arm is hardly shocking. Krasuer reports implant of Plagas to Wesker. Wesker tells Ada for whatever reason, ranging from earning her trust, playing his employees off against each other or because he felt Krauser was possibly under Saddler's control.

Ada: "I've studied his combat style and can deal with that arm of his if necessary."

So unless he called Albert up and gave him all the details on the arm, including its limitations, I see no way whatsoever him telling Wesker (for no reason) "I've got a giant blade-arm!" would help Ada figure out how to deal with it.

[Kaneco]

Uhh, thats because the English voice overs are read from the localized script. The Japanese versions include the original Japanese script in their subtitles, which are the "actual" dialogue.

Thanks on that note. I guess the Japanese developers/directors are at fault
here since RE games usually get a simultaneous release on both NA & JP or
usually gets released in Japan first, and other than that they are developed in Japan.

I guess it's a matter of not caring.

[News Bot]

The Crash was part of Krauser's dialogue between him and Leon, and as we all
know the dialogue is in English doesn't matter what region the game is.

Uhh, thats because the English voice overs are read from the localized script. The Japanese versions include the original Japanese script in their subtitles, which are the "actual" dialogue.

[Kaneco]

Actually it was there for a reason, to explain his motives for leaving the military and joining Wesker. His arm being injured there had nothing to do with what he was later infected with.



Aside from Ada stating as such. On the other hand, there is zero proof to suggest he was infected with something else, just blind assumptions. The first thing you should do is stop taking the localized English versions at face-value, much of the text is skewered and incorrect. Krauser's crash, for example, never happened. He was merely involved in a vague "accident".

The Crash was part of Krauser's dialogue between him and Leon, and as we all
know the dialogue is in English doesn't matter what region the game is.

Unless, they told Leon he died in a crash but it actually never happened..but
what comes into question is that Krauser knows what Leon was told so
probably the crash did happen or was just orchestrated to seem so or
probably Krauser has an informant/ally in the US government/military who
helped him kidnap Ashley and also reported Krauser's fake death in that
crash.

Probably Krauser shot the pilot in one of his solo missions and then blew up
the helicopter with dynamites and you have a fake crash. xD

[Darkmoon]

Well, my brain has been taken for it's annual cleaning of the shit I've seen on the web, but I still have some intelligence so...

Krauser's arm transforms in the same as Las Plagas mutants, he's in the employ of a man who sticks Plagas in everyone who worked for him to make sure they remained loyal and, of course, you'd think Ada would mention something along the lines of his arm being infected with something like the T-Virus.

Where as I understand the monster that wounds his arm is either a T-Virus creation (in which case Krauser's being infected would result in his death and reanimation, not a mutant killer arm he can control) or the T-Veronica virus (which, if he was able to control it, would reult in him spurting fire. After being in Cryostasis for the next decade and a half and travelling back in time to annoy Leon) and really doesn't support the idea that it's anything other than Plagas. And Ada knowing about his arm is hardly shocking. Krasuer reports implant of Plagas to Wesker. Wesker tells Ada for whatever reason, ranging from earning her trust, playing his employees off against each other or because he felt Krauser was possibly under Saddler's control.

But once my brain gets back I may see things differently. Through a haze of clensing bleach most likely.

[News Bot]

Capcom threw in his arm being wounded for no reason at all.

Actually it was there for a reason, to explain his motives for leaving the military and joining Wesker. His arm being injured there had nothing to do with what he was later infected with.

There was never any real proof to him having Las Plagas in the first place.

Aside from Ada stating as such. On the other hand, there is zero proof to suggest he was infected with something else, just blind assumptions. The first thing you should do is stop taking the localized English versions at face-value, much of the text is skewered and incorrect. Krauser's crash, for example, never happened. He was merely involved in a vague "accident".

[Becky's Butt]

Of course not.

Capcom threw in his arm being wounded for no reason at all.

There was never any real proof to him having Las Plagas in the first place. Ada's comment in SW and the reveal in DSC pretty much makes it clear as day to anyone with a brain.

[News Bot]

Oh and on the topic of Krauser, I just want to tell everyone

I told you so.

You didn't "tell us" anything worthwhile, especially since Darkside Chronicles actually didn't prove, disprove or even lend credence to either side of the issue.

[Becky's Butt]

Oh and on the topic of Krauser, I just want to tell everyone

I told you so.

[ValentineLover]

Since the first time I played CV, I've always seen her as such.

yeah but her being talking, teasing you and having a attitude like if she where picking flowers in a field in overall increased the "this just doesnt work, we're screwed" effect