Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City

[News Bot]

I call BS on ORC selling because of RE name alone

Gun Survivor sold moderately well. Because it was Resident Evil. Same with the other sub-par entries in the series. Revelations isn't selling very well due to poor marketing and the fact that it's on the 3DS.

I disagree with the UC put people off DSC claim also

Congrats but that's how it is. People were expecting something good out of UC after the performance of BH4 (which was immensely popular even after several years once it was released on the Wii). They didn't get it, so they didn't get the sequel to a sub-par game.

ORC would be a much better experience if not for the bugs.

ORC would be a much better experience if not for being a sub-par game.

[[STARS]TyranT]

Playing Resident Evil 5 not using the upgrade feature the game offers is a much better way of going through the game, you'll fear the Lickers later when your ammo is low and your only doing miniscule damage to them.

[Smiley]

Those games have all outsold ORC by a large number, is only natural they are on top. I find it impressive that on first week sales which for Xbox must have been ~200k at the time it even made the list considering some of those games have userbases over 10 million.

I call BS on ORC selling because of RE name alone, people like shooters, people like co-op and competitive play. Even RE5 haters usually admit the co-op was fun. Revelations proves it is not the RE name that sells, 3DS consoles are topping the charts in sales yet nobody cares about Revelations despite reviewing well and clearly being a well made game with decent production values, unlike ORC. Funny fact: RE5 sold more copies last week than Revelations did.

I disagree with the UC put people off DSC claim also, when UC released rail shooters barely featured on Wii, after that became a hit everyone started releasing rail shooters and it even became a joke that any 'popular' game series released on Wii would be a rail shooter version, by time DSC released the market for them was long tired.

Spin offs are not as big as the main sequels when it comes to RE. Frankly RE4 ported on the Wii did a much better job than any of the Chronicles games. And I'd have rather seen another game using those Wii mechanics (in similar vein to RE5 on PS move) rather than using the Wii for rail shooters.

ORC would be a much better experience if not for the bugs. At best I can say RE6 should be bug free with the amount of resources it has so it's got that going for it. Would be nice if the single player experience turned out like Revelations. As long as we're getting a forced co-op buddy it would help if they didn't interfere with the game play portion too much. Only make them a necessity to fight and survive as long as another player is controlling them.

[Mr. Spencer]

Nice to see people still playing Reach.

[Dracarys]

EDIT: Here some good news... ORC might've sold well out of the gate, but shooter fans are getting wise about what a pile it is:

Those games have all outsold ORC by a large number, is only natural they are on top. I find it impressive that on first week sales which for Xbox must have been ~200k at the time it even made the list considering some of those games have userbases over 10 million.

I call BS on ORC selling because of RE name alone, people like shooters, people like co-op and competitive play. Even RE5 haters usually admit the co-op was fun. Revelations proves it is not the RE name that sells, 3DS consoles are topping the charts in sales yet nobody cares about Revelations despite reviewing well and clearly being a well made game with decent production values, unlike ORC. Funny fact: RE5 sold more copies last week than Revelations did.

I disagree with the UC put people off DSC claim also, when UC released rail shooters barely featured on Wii, after that became a hit everyone started releasing rail shooters and it even became a joke that any 'popular' game series released on Wii would be a rail shooter version, by time DSC released the market for them was long tired.

[Pikminister]

.... but firepower soon prevailed.

It always does in ACTION games.... doesn't it?

Still, those ORC numbers are not even close to RE5's when it first charted on NPD.

[Darkmoon]

The Reapers were only scary, for me at least, in a 'Well shit, here comes another checkpoint reload.' They felt more cheap than terrifying.

The labs were kinda interesting, and I got nervous at the big room o'lickers, but firepower soon prevailed.

[Mr. Spencer]

I thought the Umbrella Africa Laboratory section was pretty scary. And the Reapers. That's about it though.

Ah yes, Reapers. I have dismissed that claim.

[News Bot]

Again, I'll believe it when I see it and not a moment before.

I thought the Umbrella Africa Laboratory section was pretty scary. And the Reapers. That's about it though.

[Darkmoon]

And horror is definitely not MIA in BH6. We know that much already from hands-on impressions. But it will probably be a bit limited to one scenario. However, that scenario will be almost as long as BH5, so that makes up for it.

It may come as a surprise to exactly no one that the latter option is a blast and preferable to going it alone in almost every way. But what may come as a shock is that even with a friend at your side in a game set mostly during broad daylight, RE5 still manages to produce plenty of scares.

Again, I'll believe it when I see it and not a moment before.

[News Bot]

Well there you go... the point is, why be mad at Kawata for seeing the writing in the wall? Action-Horror is the future of the S-H genre. He agrees that's the direction the series needs to take in order to keep making shareholders happy.

However, with ORC (and possibly w/RE6), horror might go MIA.

I'm not mad at Kawata. I just acknowledge that his contributions to the series have not been very good, and that his CoD comments are simply damaging for the entire industry if they come to fruition. If it goes in the misguided direction he thinks it should, they will have achieved absolutely nothing. They have to keep dreaming of CoD numbers, because they will never get them.

And horror is definitely not MIA in BH6. We know that much already from hands-on impressions. But it will probably be a bit limited to one scenario. However, that scenario will be almost as long as BH5, so that makes up for it.

[Pikminister]

Survival Horror is a sub-genre of Action Adventure, which is a very broad genre. Revelations is an adventure game. So is every other game in the series. I do agree that Action Horror is a better term for BH4 and DS.

Well there you go... the point is, why be mad at Kawata for seeing the writing on the wall? Action-Horror is the future of the S-H genre. He agrees that's the direction the series needs to take in order to keep making shareholders happy.

However, with ORC (and possibly w/RE6), horror might go MIA.

EDIT: Here some good news... ORC might've sold well out of the gate, but shooter fans are getting wise about what a pile it is:

[News Bot]

He also called Revelations and adventure game. Like fucking Nancy Drew games.

He's really funny. But he know what sheeple like to buy. And it ain't survival-Horror games.

That's why DS is basically a RE4 clone (it is, basically). And belongs to the same genre - action horror.

Survival Horror is a sub-genre of Action Adventure, which is a very broad genre. Revelations is an adventure game. So is every other game in the series. I do agree that Action Horror is a better term for BH4 and DS.

[Pikminister]

That's funny since he gushes all over Dead Space being Survival Horror in his interview in the INSIDE OF BIOHAZARD THE DARKSIDE CHRONICLES book.

He also called Revelations an adventure game. Like fucking Nancy Drew games.

He's really funny. Basically a comedian. But hey, he knows what sheeple like to buy. And it ain't survival-Horror games.

That's why DS is basically a RE4 clone (it is, basically). And belongs to the same genre - action horror.

[News Bot]

Well, Dead Space is more action horror. Especially the sequel. Wait, present day gamers don't love rail shooters? But...but I do!

Resident Evil is also action horror. The only true "Survival Horror" entries in the series were the 1996 game and its remake. The rest have always had a heavier emphasis on action but maintained the survival and horror elements, and have gotten progressively more action-orientated as time went by. They've been very hit-or-miss on whether they've been able to keep the horror elements since 2005, though. This is mostly because of people like Kawata and Takeuchi.

So yeah... Kawata had no choice but to agree with the masses.

That's funny since he gushes all over Dead Space being Survival Horror in his interview in the INSIDE OF BIOHAZARD THE DARKSIDE CHRONICLES book.