1.5

[fujin78]

what is this site ?

http://www.bioflames.com/test/main.htm

[Rick Hunter]

It was just an example. But if it comes to money, honestly I could care less when it comes to something I've been waiting to play for the last 14 years. And it certainly wouldn't cost me much in the end, no one would be a generous (idiot) contributor for something expensive.

And I don't really call that plastering huge prices around "all over the place". The idea is to go fishing with a big bait, pretending to be a private collector who doesn't ask questions. Actually, the higher the price, the better it is. As you said, it seems Japanese people couldn't care less about that game.

If some "wanted" could enlighten some minds, it wouldn't be all that bad. When everything fails, there's still money. If I find a way to execute such a plan, we won't have anything to lose anyway. And people here wouldn't even be aware of it.

I'll still have to think about it being a good idea or not. But if it doesn't work, we'll find something else. We've been waiting 14 years, it's not like we're not getting used to it.

[Alzaire]

We have very few friends/contacts in the Japanese community. I've always felt it's a bit of a weak point, as I would agree that it's more likely that if there are a number of other copies, they are probably circulating/sitting amongst JP collectors. On the other hand though, the Japanese community isn't near as hardcore a fandom as outside of Japan - at least in regards to caring about betas. From many of our correspondences with a few Japanese community people, the general consensus of 1.5 in Japan is there is almost no interest in it.

But yeah, Enrico is kinda right. I don't think trying to advertise anything will do any good at this point. I think anyone with the disc knows its worth already. Unfortunately I think for the most part, aside from investigating private leads and making non-public offers, we are most likely gonna have to rely on hope that someone with a disc will open a sale to the full-blown public or it gets privately sold to a collector who will either share it or give extensive coverage on it.

I suppose you could argue maybe there's some old ex-journalist somewhere with a copy of the disc in his collection and has never followed it online and doesn't know its worth or fan interest in it or something. But I think this is unlikely, and if it was, I doubt we'd stumble upon them. And I'd rather not plaster a huge price around all over the place anyway.

[Enrico Marini]

First Rule of the Prototype: You do not talk about prices.

The last time the community was going to make an offer it may have been near that mark but to assume the community can pull off a sum like that would be just shooting ourselves in the foot. I know last time my offer wasn't a huge amount but these days I could only offer at most a third of what I would have in 2007.

Unfortunately I feel if anyone does have it in Japan, they are probably going to keep it secret from all but their closest friends. I don't think going about advertising that you are searching for the prototype would be a good thing simply because of its legality. In all honesty I wouldn't answer an advertisement for a game, which in all fairness, would be protected by copywrite. No offense but it would just be plain dumb as it could just be "Capcom" searching for those leaked discs. Would you want to risk imprisonment, a fine or lawsuit over it?

I'm sure there are a few resourceful people always on the look out for the community to bring this to us. We just have to be patient.

[Rick Hunter]

Thanks for your reply, I didn't read correctly the first time

As for the contact's friend, I'm surprised that a Capcom employer has RE1.5. I don't really know it works in such a company, but I don't think everyone would have access to those kind of documents.

I understand why he wouldn't want to compromise his friend. Personally I think that we should look for that game in Japan, and not here. And stay anonymous in some way, going through Japanese people to post classified advertisements or something like that, hoping that someday, by chance, someone would see it and remember he has a copy somewhere.

I was thinking about something rather light, like "Private collector looking for biohazard 2 prototype / biohazard 1.5, 500'000 yens", or something like that. Something that would make the guy feel he could have a 14th salary by providing a ripped cd anonymously.

Chance is our greatest ally, but we have to push it. And if 2 people were confirmed to have 2 different versions in Japan, I guess they aren't alone. We can only hope there are more of them.

[Alzaire]

Alzaire, I've been reading your post again and there's something I still don't understand. You said that out of 5 know versions, the curator build would be no4. (no Marvin skin, disappearing corpses, poor animations, etc.)

But you also say that back in 1999, the source that Inflame kept in touch with had the "final beta", meaning, as I understand it, the version we can see in the biohazard cirector's cut dual shock videos.

So it sounds like a contradiction, both versions are clearly different. So how could you think they are from the same source? Or is there something I don't quite understand?

And if there are indeed two versions "floating around", how comes the "final beta" was leaked, if it was never shown in public?

I think you misunderstood what I wrote.

The full quote of what I said:

Then of course 2007, the copy we were going to buy popped up. Possibly the same copy (we haven't been able to 100% confirm it, but it's pretty likely) popped up via Curator's source and the PSM review. That disc is not for sale. And no, Capcom never contacted Curator or anything.

What I meant here was the "same copy" was probably the same disc we were going to buy the month prior in 2007. Not that it was the same copy as the build Inflames came in contact with. The disc we were going to buy was described to us as an "E3 build" (which wouldn't be the final build), and that along with the fact the disc sold out from under us less than a month before the PSM review went online, I believe it's highly likely the "E3" disc we were gonna buy and the PSM source's copy are probably the same.

I apologize if what I wrote the first time wasn't clear.

As a note, the E3 the disc would have come from would be the (largely unknown, apparently) "E3 & Playstation Expo" in Japan held on November 2-4. There was a playable 1.5 demo there that seems to have only been available to journalists and the like. Any other E3 falls either too early or months after it was canned to be a better culprit. A mid-October to early November '96 build would coincide with my projected "Fourth Era" build timeframe.

As for the final build, only Inflames knows the guy's name and more about him, and he won't give that info out. All I know and can say that the guy that had it was a friend of a Capcom employee, and that's how he had it and one of the reasons why he decided not to give it to Inflames in the end.

[Borman]

Tons of stuff leaks that wasn't officially shown in public, having had 3 or 4 unannounced games myself Its not entirely different.

[Rick Hunter]

Back in late 1999/2000, the "final beta" popped up with a source that Inflames talked to for a bit. The guy was originally gonna give him a copy, but unfortunately circumstances caused things to go sour and this source disappeared.

Then of course 2007, the copy we were going to buy popped up. Possibly the same copy (we haven't been able to 100% confirm it, but it's pretty likely)

Alzaire, I've been reading your post again and there's something I still don't understand. You said that out of 5 know versions, the curator build would be no4. (no Marvin skin, disappearing corpses, poor animations, etc.)

But you also say that back in 1999, the source that Inflame kept in touch with had the "final beta", meaning, as I understand it, the version we can see in the biohazard cirector's cut dual shock videos.

So it sounds like a contradiction, both versions are clearly different. So how could you think they are from the same source? Or is there something I don't quite understand?

And if there are indeed two versions "floating around", how comes the "final beta" was leaked, if it was never shown in public?

[rewak]

Yep, or real if you use a mod on the PC version i think

[OKeijiDragon]

the version of RE2 with Akuma in it......

http://scuttle.mirror.waffleimages.com/data/files/d8/d81df170d235cac9615413f2ad373a575747c581.jpg

It's totally for realz!

Let me guess, old April Fools joke?

[rewak]

^ Wishful thinking! Albeit very, VERY wishful thinking.

Oh, 1.5 (and 3.5, Dash, and all the others), how I wish you'd crawl out from under Capcom's bed and play with us.

Someday, I tell you! SOMEDAY!!!

Don't forget the N64 version of 0, the GBC version of RE1, the version of RE2 with Akuma in it......

Spoiler:

show spoiler

It's totally for realz!

[Stu]

Do people ever get tired of posting 400+ post in less than two months in a slow moving board?

That's an incredible burn haha

If you don't like the talk of betas, you really shouldn't be in the 1.5 thread which is more or less the only place that sort of talk happens on here these days.

[kiedistidus]

I'd disagree. Human greed means there's a good chance we'll get it eventually. The discs are worth a lot of money...until it gets leaked on the net, and they are worth jack. So one of them will, eventually, sell purely because they're gonna loose out on a load of cash otherwise.

Good old human greed sometimes it works out for the best!!

[Darkmoon]

Does anyone ever tire of hearing/talking about prototypes that we'll most likely never even see, no less play?

I'd disagree. Human greed means there's a good chance we'll get it eventually. The discs are worth a lot of money...until it gets leaked on the net, and they are worth jack. So one of them will, eventually, sell purely because they're gonna loose out on a load of cash otherwise.

[abbatoo]

It's one of the reason why many of us are still here. So, no.

The day I get to play 1.5 is the day I'll hang up my gaming coat; a resolution I made a few years ago and I'm sticking by it. Of course, I'll probably make an exception with any other RE betas that might surface in the future.