The Central "Jill Valentine" Discussion Topic

[Jill's Boob]

I have to agree with Bereuguard here. RE has always had stupid scenes and unrealistic things, some are laughable. The boulder punch, I can forgive, but people rarely survive a plane crash anyway under normal circumstances, and if they do, they're badly injured and require urgent medical attention.

So what about Bravo team surviving a helicopter crash in RE0? Or Steve and Claire surviving a PLANE crash in RECV?

In RE4 when Leon is fighting the El Gigantes, it isn't permanently open. You use a lever to open the metal doors for a second or two, only long enough to drop the El Gigante in. He dies, it closes again. Something like that is quite plausible, a very similar plot element was used in Terminator 2 for example; dumping something in an open lava pit. That's not really comparable to surviving a plain crash into an active volcano.

For someone who constantly sings RE4 Wii's praises, you must play that game often. Did you suddenly forget the lava area? Leon is in the lava room, fighting the Gigantes, while running over steel grating that is full of holes, allowing full exposure to all of the elements. The Gigante can fall through the biggest opening, yes, but still the room is completely subjected to the extreme (fatal) heat of being that close to active LAVA. Just look below Leon's feet to see the active, flowing volcanic magma.

Also, what about the part where Leon is navigating to or from that room? The part where he...hahaha, it's so fu**ing stupid that it is funny...where he shoots ganados who are operating mobile stone dragons that breath fire/lava?

I posted 2 videos in my previous post to refresh yours and Beauregard's memories, though you shouldn't need it considering that you play RE4 Wii often. I haven't played RE4 in 2 years and I still recall all of the eye-rollingly far-fetched bullshit from that title, of which there is plenty.

So your complaint that fighting inside an active volcano is hands down the dumbest thing ever...ahem, it was done before in your precious RE4. But that's not currently the cool thing to bash, now is it?

EDIT: Forgot to mention...Chris, Sheva, and Wesker are at least in the volcano near the top opening, allowing them to be exposed to the atmosphere and the heat would be ventilated (they would still die). But fu**ing RE4 Leon is inside of a subterranean cave with no exposure to the atmosphere nor any kind of sufficient ventilation, while being meters from active magma. Not only would the heat/vapors from the magma cause him to have insufficient oxygen, the magnification of the temperature from being in a poorly ventilated space would melt his flesh.

That is single-handedly the most ridiculous and unrealistic plot element RE has ever done. By far not the only unrealistic and ridiculous thing, but definitely the most.

Really? It is the most unrealistic, ridiculous thing EVER in all of RE? Not:

- A singing, opera-loving leech man dressed in mage robes?
- Rebecca Chambers' MASSIVE education completed within the span of 18 years?
- Salazar's suddenly mobile statue? Just how do Spaniards construct a granite statue in the visage of a hundred year old Napoleonic midget, and still have it possess a robotic endoskeleton that is able to mobilize the stone mass (stone being solid and heavy beyond your wildest dreams)? Where did they get such technology in such a primitive castle, anyway?
- Leon's descent through Salazar's trap door? If you take Physics 101, you will realize that the scene is easily the most unbelievable thing you have ever witnessed in your entire life.
- Leon's laser hallway scene? No human has even 0.1% chance of performing either the physical contortion, or the mental split-second calculation of determining where each mobile laser (on either side of his peripheral vision) would place itself?
- A teleporting merchant?
- A waverunner magically being fueled up and readily available on a remote island? Just how did it get there (Ada and Leon arrived via boat, yet Ada still had the teddy bear key to it)? And no waverunner has enough fuel to carry Leon & Ashley from aforementioned remote island back to the mainland.
- Ada jumping off the platform at the end of RE4, head first, over the top of a previously unheard helicopter? And yet she not only did not land smack in the middle of the rotor, but she managed to be sitting inside the helo, buckled up and smiling within milliseconds of said dive. While the helicopter was ascending straight upward in the exact location where she had leapt over the edge.
- Leon's hair fop? (My vote goes to that one, followed closely by his wearing of mascara.)

Claire surviving being fired at is very unlikely but not impossible. She wasn't dodging bullets matrix style, she was just pegging it for her life, and the gunman couldn't aim properly because he was always shooting behind her.

I guarantee that a stationary helicopter rotating along a directional axis is much faster than the speed of a human running down a hallway. Bullets also happen to be faster than forward leg-propelled motion.

Shooting behind her? If I stand still, and start firing an automatic weapon behind you, and you take off running at an angle perpendicular to my own, and I rotate at the hip in your general direction, the bullets will catch you within seconds.

As for Claire's matrix moves...she saved that for the part where she drops her pistol and then manages to subsequently drop her body at a rate faster than the pistol to catch it as she hits the ground and shoots the conveniently placed explosive barrel. (#1 - That may be the most ridiculous and unrealistic in RE. Ever. #2 - Who the hell keeps explosive barrels inside a multi-story building?)

[The_15th]

Why is Wesker still toying with the virus when he's already gotten perfect super powers from it without any side effects?

On subject, Remake Jill looks hot with her big blue eyes! I don't like her bonus costumes sadly. :/

[Alexia_Ashford]

I have to agree with Bereuguard here. RE has always had stupid scenes and unrealistic things, some are laughable. The boulder punch, I can forgive, but people rarely survive a plane crash anyway under normal circumstances, and if they do, they're badly injured and require urgent medical attention. Let alone crashing into an active volcano. When Sheva falls from the ledge, she literally can't be inches away from the lava. No-one can survive that sort of heat. No-one. In RE4 when Leon is fighting the El Gigantes, it isn't permanently open. You use a lever to open the metal doors for a second or two, only long enough to drop the El Gigante in. He dies, it closes again. Something like that is quite plausible, a very similar plot element was used in Terminator 2 for example; dumping something in an open lava pit. That's not really comparable to surviving a plain crash into an active volcano. That is single-handedly the most ridiculous and unrealistic plot element RE has ever done. By far not the only unrealistic and ridiculous thing, but definitely the most. Claire surviving being fired at is very unlikely but not impossible. She wasn't dodging bullets matrix style, she was just pegging it for her life, and the gunman couldn't aim properly because he was always shooting behind her.

[Jill's Boob]

I didn't know college students couldn't run. When adrenaline (note: not the boulder-punching type of adrenaline) is pumping through your system in a life-or-death situation, kicking your body into 110% mode is pretty much automatic.

I'm a college student, and I can't outrun a single bullet, much less hundreds of rounds being fired nonstop from a gatling gun. I don't care how much adrenaline is running through Claire's body...even with adrenaline, 5 red bulls, 2 lines of cocaine, and a bowl of sugary sweet Trix...could a college student (in this case Claire) outrun machine gun fire from a gatling gun on a goddamn helicopter. IM-FU**ING-POSSIBLE.

Also, there might be a little bit of luck associated with it; maybe the gunner on the chopper was a rookie with Umbrella and didn't know how to aim properly. I'm just saying that there's several variables; it's not a simple equation such as humans + X (distance from heat source) + Y (temperature of heat source) = death.

Well, maybe there was luck involved in Chris punching a boulder into motion toward the lava. Perhaps it was a baby boulder, and thus weaker than an adult one.

Way to pull "variables" into the equation, by the way. I suppose with variables, any argument can be spun in a certain manner. In that case, BSAA agents take special vitamins that allow them to survive in extreme environments, like active volcanoes or even space. BSAA Holiday Sugarman can breath in space and fight telepathic Tyrants on space stations thanks to his vitamins and a healthy, balanced breakfast.

In Perry's Nemesis book (which I know is not canon), Jill chose to dress that way because she had planned on escaping through the countryside. Due to the wide open areas of the countryside, she decided to dress for ease of movement. It's really not that far-fetched at all.

It absolutely still is. Going through the countryside - I suppose in this case the wild, e.g. nowhere near civilization, Jill would need attire that allows her to survive the elements (drastic temperature decrease at nightfall, insects, poisonous foliage, etc.) Since when do people go camping/hiking/navigating the wild in a tube top and mini-skirt? Ease of movement my ass. What about survival? Cargo pants to store items in your pockets, layered clothing for temp/environment change, etc.

I assume you're talking about her graduating college at 18 and using her genius mind to join a special ops team? Yeah, that's pretty far-fetched. But not impossible.

It's not impossible? Okay...she has a medical background...that requires at least a few years of undergraduate study, and maybe some more post-grad work. She also seems to know an awful lot about chemical composition/mixing - that's additional studying. She also had to complete regular schooling. Then she's got to spend even MORE time studying criminal justice. Then she's got to not only get into the law enforcement field, but she'd have to pay her due diligence on the force before being considered for an elite unit, which would require all sorts of physical/mental tests to be approved for recruitment. (I also forgot regular police academy, and not the kind with Steve Guttenberg.) Plus months of fire arms training and special law enforcement tactics. ALL OF THAT, by age EIGHTEEN.

Not impossible you say?

It made no sense, but it's not impossible. I love the scene where Leon walks onto the platform, senses danger, and pulls out his... knife?! That's what his instinct tells him to do?! Ridiculous, but once again, not physically impossible.

Senses danger? Was he bitten by a radioactive spider?

And I never said it was impossible for Leon to take out his knife. I said it was impossible for two men to have a SWORD fight with hunting knives.

You don't have to be an ass, dude.

I'm not trying to be, but I often come off that way. Sorry.

Besides, while I'm not 100% certain, I'd tend to think the lava in an active volcano far exceeds the temperature of what looked like melted steel in a smelting plant in RE4. Not to mention the fact that the molten stuff seemed stagnant in RE4, unlike an active volcano. Just saying. I might be completely wrong.

Again...more of your variables. Looked like/seemed/etc. You are taking things and molding them to fit your points.

The Gigantes can be knocked into the pit of molten whatever. It then melts them. And the screen while you are in the room is doing the wavy motion thing that occurs whenever you view something emitting heat. It's a f**king pit of HOT molten material. And the room is sealed off. It is 95% comparable to being in an active volcano. Either one will cause flesh to melt off.

EDIT: Here's a video; not the room I am talking about, but here is Leon traversing an environment...well...inside a volcano.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq7Ejg1wTD8

Eh, here's the lava room, except there's a HUNK mod onto Leon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrR80...eature=related

When you consider that the volcano battle was the climax of the most recent game in the series, I just think it's funny to watch the curve of realism go from moderately realistic to action-packed cheesy unrealistic to ****ing impossible unrealistic.

Impossible unrealistic started from day 1: Zombie outbreak where the main hero/heroine can survive zombie bites (that infect everyone else) by consuming marijuana looking herbs. In a fucking mansion that happens to also have numerous puzzles and specific keys to open various themed locks.

I guess I just preferred the games when they were "moderately realistic," as in genetic experiments, viruses that kill people and reanimate their corpses, reptilian lizard-men the size of gorillas...

I prefer realism as well, which is why I hate RE4 so damn much. Everything in that game is so ridiculously over-the-top. RE5 at least reeled in some of that nonsense. Sure, there are still some very unrealistic scenes - the volcano fight & boulder punch are all that come to mind right now - but RE5 should be applauded for remedying the constant barrage of fake shit that RE4 presented.

[Det. Beauregard]

Did you miss Claire - a college student - outrunning bullets from a helo-mounted chain-gun in the RECV intro?

I didn't know college students couldn't run. When adrenaline (note: not the boulder-punching type of adrenaline) is pumping through your system in a life-or-death situation, kicking your body into 110% mode is pretty much automatic. Also, there might be a little bit of luck associated with it; maybe the gunner on the chopper was a rookie with Umbrella and didn't know how to aim properly. I'm just saying that there's several variables; it's not a simple equation such as humans + X (distance from heat source) + Y (temperature of heat source) = death.

Jill's RE3 outfit. A supposed ex-DELTA force, with previous undead experience, chooses to run around a city of the flesh-eating undead with most of her flesh exposed.

In Perry's Nemesis book (which I know is not canon), Jill chose to dress that way because she had planned on escaping through the countryside. Due to the wide open areas of the countryside, she decided to dress for ease of movement. It's really not that far-fetched at all.

Rebecca Chambers. Nuff said.

I assume you're talking about her graduating college at 18 and using her genius mind to join a special ops team? Yeah, that's pretty far-fetched. But not impossible. I find it odd that they'd give her a gun, though - don't you have to be 21 years of age in the U.S. to legally own a handgun? Still, nothing physically impossible here.

Krauser and Leon using hunting knives like swords in a saber duel

It made no sense, but it's not impossible. I love the scene where Leon walks onto the platform, senses danger, and pulls out his... knife?! That's what his instinct tells him to do?! Ridiculous, but once again, not physically impossible.

Leon being in a sealed chamber which has a LAVA pit (ding-ding-ding) beneath the floor grating. The heat...etc, etc. Just add the protein denaturing spiel from your post. To add to the laugh-factor, a tiny human man defeats two El Gigantes in the sealed chamber with exposed lava pit.

You don't have to be an ass, dude.

Besides, while I'm not 100% certain, I'd tend to think the lava in an active volcano far exceeds the temperature of what looked like melted steel in a smelting plant in RE4. Not to mention the fact that the molten stuff seemed stagnant in RE4, unlike an active volcano. Just saying. I might be completely wrong.

- Ada swinging around like Spider-Man in Spain with a grappling gun, wearing an evening gown, even though everyone else is wearing coats. Just ignoring the physical requirements to move body-weight against gravity, but she's doing it one-handed with a gun-handle... is her body mass less than 15 lbs? And just where the fuck does she keep all of her ammunition? In her tailpipe?
- Leon dodging randomly placed lasers THREE consecutive times by contorting his body perfectly despite the events happening seconds apart and did I mention (yes I did) the laser emitters randomly taking positions? Not only is the human body incapable of such physical split-second reactions, the human mind would be unable to calculate how to contort said body so quickly
- Leon outrunning a mobile giant stone statue that is created in homage to a 3-foot tall hundred year old midget who wears a Napoleon hat
- Leon falls through a trap door activated by previously mentioned midget, and is falling at an increasing rate equal to his weight times gravity. Yet he manages to deploy a grappling hook upward, at a rate faster than his descent, when the hook catches on a surface. Somehow his body comes to an immediate stop without snapping his spine, or his belt (where the grapple line is attached) being ripped off his body. Not to mention his descent would have caused the grapple line to never move upward at a rate faster than his descent, and the pull of gravity would have kept him from being able to even move his arms in a manner to deploy the hook.

These I'll give you, although I still think the volcano battle takes the cake. Notice that these are all from the same game, though: RE4. Lately Capcom has been sacrificing believability for ridiculous, action-packed scenes in the Resident Evil series. I'm not saying the classic games were the height of realism, but they felt a little bit (actually, a lot) more grounded. The characters weren't dodging lasers in slow motion or running through an active volcano, and there were no half-assed robotic walking statues or physics-defying grappling hooks (possibly excluding the hookshot from RE0). When you consider that the volcano battle was the climax of the most recent game in the series, I just think it's funny to watch the curve of realism go from moderately realistic to action-packed cheesy unrealistic to ****ing impossible unrealistic.

I guess I just preferred the games when they were "moderately realistic," as in genetic experiments, viruses that kill people and reanimate their corpses, reptilian lizard-men the size of gorillas...



It actually does sound realistic when compared to laser dodging, walking statues, boulder-punching, and volcano fights!

[valentinesdead?]

I completely agree - Capcom pushed it too far when creating the RE5 story. Although the series has had a ton of unrealistic moments, the volcano fight was easily the worst offender. They can write Wesker's survival off due to his uber-awesomeness, but Chris and Sheva running around just inches from burning lava was ridiculous. I did notice that Chris and Sheva hold their sides throughout the volcano area, but the realistic response would have been falling down in a matter of seconds and dying soon after due to the immense heat (which would denature proteins extremely quickly). Thus, Wesker would have lived, and although Chris would be dead, so would Sheva! Woohoo!

Most unrealistic moments throughout the series can be forgiven, since it is fiction. Zombies, fictional viruses causing mutations, whatever. However, no "normal" human being can survive in an active volcano. This isn't Super Mario. Also, see www.impossibleboulderpunching.com for further information on RE5.

I also agree with your post prior to this one; RE4 has a lot more replay value to me as well. The one thing I did like about RE5, however, was the statistics (records) screen - too bad something like that wasn't implemented in RE4.

The whole unrealistic volanco reminds me of MGS4, when Raiden Spoiler:

show spoiler

stops Outer Haven from crushing Snake by nothing but him and his sword

. It's funny how people take issue with certain things and yet ignore other almost other "impossible" feats. Now there is such a thing as suspending disbelief, and some stories do break that wall unforgivingly. Of course, what it all amounts to is how much the reader/player/audience will let by, and since no person is different, this means a many different things.

I will say though, I simply enjoy MGS and RE. They're my two favorite game story universes. And while I feel MGS is a masterpiece of storytelling and merging of interactive entertainment and art, Resident Evil ain't shakesphere. Never has been. . .probably never will be. But what I love about it is the characters. Rich characters, and a really great core concept *influenced by pesudo-*science**. Maybe I have lower expectations for RE or something, but I think there comes a point where its best to just enjoy something, unless it breaks one of it's own rules so balatantly that it makes zero sense. I really didn't have much trouble with anything in RE5, nor MGS4, even with the Raiden spoiler tagged thing I mentioned. Story themes and character are much more important to me, personally, than defying physical laws of gravity, or the fact Chris and Sheva should have died in that volcano. Eh, it's fiction. At least, until its TOO out-there, but I really don't feel like anything in RE5 was, at least for a RE title.

It's all meant to be fun in the end, isn't it?

[Jill's Boob]

BTW. When did the thread about Jill V. turned into a thread about... all RE games (especially RE4 & RE5)? Isn't this kind of offtopic?

It's payback for the hundreds of other threads derailed by Jill talk.

I completely agree - Capcom pushed it too far when creating the RE5 story. Although the series has had a ton of unrealistic moments, the volcano fight was easily the worst offender.

Hilarious. Utterly hilarious. So...let me get this straight. A volcano fight is the most farfetched thing EVER in RE?

Did you miss Claire - a college student - outrunning bullets from a helo-mounted chain-gun in the RECV intro?

Other things, off the top of my head:

- Ada swinging around like Spider-Man in Spain with a grappling gun, wearing an evening gown, even though everyone else is wearing coats. Just ignoring the physical requirements to move body-weight against gravity, but she's doing it one-handed with a gun-handle... is her body mass less than 15 lbs? And just where the fuck does she keep all of her ammunition? In her tailpipe?
- Speaking of attire: Jill's RE3 outfit. A supposed ex-DELTA force, with previous undead experience, chooses to run around a city of the flesh-eating undead with most of her flesh exposed.
- Rebecca Chambers. Nuff said.
- Krauser and Leon using hunting knives like swords in a saber duel
- Leon dodging randomly placed lasers THREE consecutive times by contorting his body perfectly despite the events happening seconds apart and did I mention (yes I did) the laser emitters randomly taking positions? Not only is the human body incapable of such physical split-second reactions, the human mind would be unable to calculate how to contort said body so quickly
- Leon being in a sealed chamber which has a LAVA pit (ding-ding-ding) beneath the floor grating. The heat...etc, etc. Just add the protein denaturing spiel from your post. To add to the laugh-factor, a tiny human man defeats two El Gigantes in the sealed chamber with exposed lava pit.
- Leon outrunning a mobile giant stone statue that is created in homage to a 3-foot tall hundred year old midget who wears a Napoleon hat
- Leon falls through a trap door activated by previously mentioned midget, and is falling at an increasing rate equal to his weight times gravity. Yet he manages to deploy a grappling hook upward, at a rate faster than his descent, when the hook catches on a surface. Somehow his body comes to an immediate stop without snapping his spine, or his belt (where the grapple line is attached) being ripped off his body. Not to mention his descent would have caused the grapple line to never move upward at a rate faster than his descent, and the pull of gravity would have kept him from being able to even move his arms in a manner to deploy the hook.

Should I continue?

Most unrealistic moments throughout the series can be forgiven, since it is fiction.

Except RE5's final fight, I guess.

Zombies, fictional viruses causing mutations, whatever. However, no "normal" human being can survive in an active volcano. This isn't Super Mario. Also, see www.impossibleboulderpunching.com for further information on RE5.

I'm not saying RE5 doesn't have any farfetched moments, but you are just being blinded by your bias.

[valentinesdead?]

What'd you take these screenshots with? O_o

ArcSoft Total Media Extreme. It comes packaged with a very niffty HD capture device called Hauppaugel HD PVR. It's a small set box that you hook up via USB to a PC or laptop to use. It encodes AVC h.264 up too 1080i(but I use 720p since that's what most HD games natively render at) at a max constant bitrate of 13.5(close around 17-20 peak).


Actually, newsbot, I don't know if you remember my message I sent you back a few months ago on PU, but your uploads kinda inspired me to get one. I"m amazed at the quality of the thing--at max birate, there's no artifacting in HD resolution(I'm not sure about standard def though), plus if you have optical cable you can record in 5.1 audio. But the captures are from a media player that's part of the ArcSoft stuff(very simple).


The only real drawback is that the editing program isn't frame accuarte, which is a big pain in the ass for games which have instant cutscenes(means I have to work around them and hope to clean up at a later date, like Code Veronica for example) but after reading up, there doesn't seem to be any programs that are frame accuarate for avc currently, which sucks, because I REALLY loved Womble for editing.


. . .Hmmm, that was probably too much infomration, lol.

[Det. Beauregard]

It could have done a number of things. Spencer creating a mass Wesker army was never even hinted at pre-RE5, and it was just pulled out of a hat. It was all about B.O.Ws. I can see why they'd need something final to finish Wesker off, but the "Wesker Children" plotline was dumb and pointless. Spencer wanting to become a God. Yeah, right. I also don't understand how three people can survive a plane crash directly into an active volcano.

Pre RE4, the RE story was great, had loads of theories, loads of debate and discussion and RE4 and 5 finished that off. RE4 didn't try at all with story, and RE5 tried too hard. It's personal preference which you like most out of those two. I'd prefer something where I love the gameplay and I can have a great time with it, as opposed to a game which tries too hard and fails imo, and with which I find the gameplay dull and boring. RE4's Wii controls feel so much smoother than the RE5 controls.

I completely agree - Capcom pushed it too far when creating the RE5 story. Although the series has had a ton of unrealistic moments, the volcano fight was easily the worst offender. They can write Wesker's survival off due to his uber-awesomeness, but Chris and Sheva running around just inches from burning lava was ridiculous. I did notice that Chris and Sheva hold their sides throughout the volcano area, but the realistic response would have been falling down in a matter of seconds and dying soon after due to the immense heat (which would denature proteins extremely quickly). Thus, Wesker would have lived, and although Chris would be dead, so would Sheva! Woohoo!

Most unrealistic moments throughout the series can be forgiven, since it is fiction. Zombies, fictional viruses causing mutations, whatever. However, no "normal" human being can survive in an active volcano. This isn't Super Mario. Also, see www.impossibleboulderpunching.com for further information on RE5.

I also agree with your post prior to this one; RE4 has a lot more replay value to me as well. The one thing I did like about RE5, however, was the statistics (records) screen - too bad something like that wasn't implemented in RE4.

[News Bot]

So I'm watching that RE5 cutscene "Shadows of the Past" this morning, and. . .

What'd you take these screenshots with? O_o

[valentinesdead?]

BTW. When does the thread about Jill V. turned into a thread about... all RE games (especially RE4 & RE5)? Isn't this kind of offtopic?

It always seemed to me that the Jill theard is the "No man's land" of the THIA boards. Anything goes, you don't know what you'll get in here.

So enter at your own risk. . .

[Mr_Zombie]

They still didn't really expand on what the Wesker virus is, they just said it was something all Wesker children were given. Didn't say who created it, his super powers had already been explained with the Wesker Virus. An army of Weskers isn't exactly the best idea.

Yes, I know. What I meant was that it's still a better idea (far from great however) than "hey, we have this super virus so why are we still working on lesser viruses and call them sheer perfection?".
With Project Wesker at least it was said that there was an entire process of choosing and rising those children; also, very few of them survived, not to mention gather those special abilities. As far as we know Albert is the only one with such powers.

While that still doesn't explain everything, at least it manage to avoid the huge plot hole about wonder virus and how everyone was ignoring its existence (especially Birkin, who, as was said in Wesker's Report, gave this virus to Wesker).

BTW. When did the thread about Jill V. turned into a thread about... all RE games (especially RE4 & RE5)? Isn't this kind of offtopic?

[Canas Renvall]

^ ...RE4's story was not awesome. Please don't make me expand, as I think the many reasons are fairly obvious.

Also, since when was RE about being Rambo in any way, shape or form? It's been about being scared, not about being scared that I won't be able to fit my fifth handgun in the magical attaché case that pops up with my guns when I need it.

[Ghostface]

re4 was really fun for me because the story was awesome although first time playing I was like "what????" and it was fun seeing Luis get run through by Saddler's long pointy thing (hmmm why did it come out directly from between his legs..lol) because well it was just cool. CHICAGO TYPEWRITER FOR THE WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN BABY!!!! Man that gun made me feel almost like rambo well I was practically rambo in Far Cry 2.

[Alexia_Ashford]

Capcom had to explain Wesker's super powers somehow. Even though I can admit that the whole "Wesker Children" project wasn't the best Capcom could come out with, it's still a lot better than a magic super virus that not only brings one to death, but also makes him retain his intelligence, memory and gives him super powers. The said virus was especially stupid considering that Birkin was still working on G and Morpheus uses the tG years later - why would they want to create/use lesser virus, when Birkin just gave Wesker the best virus there ever was.

I can agree with the "I wanna be a god" theme though, that was stupid and needles; Wesker wanting to change the mankind was really out of place.

They still didn't really expand on what the Wesker virus is, they just said it was something all Wesker children were given. Didn't say who created it, his super powers had already been explained with the Wesker Virus. An army of Weskers isn't exactly the best idea.