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  • Smiley
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    Well that depends largely on who is handling it. The voices in the original RE are given a real backlash even though they are very talented individuals who have worked in many different areas as far as voice over is concerned. I would love to hear an audio book read by Barry's voice actor.

    From what I understand the direction of the original RE was pure camp in general. They didn't write the dialogue. They just had to act with it.

    And even when it comes to video game standards I could pick out plenty of games that had good voice acting. My favorite from the 90s being Metal Gear Solid.

    Now that isn't to say there weren't bad ones out there. I've heard them myself. I even hear bad ones to this day. But when it comes to Silent Hill 2 I'm disappointed you feel that way about the Angela character.

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  • Dracarys
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    Originally posted by Smiley View Post
    Mary Elizabeth made it sound like the whole thing was unnatural as though this was a bad thing. That non-actors were giving off awkward performances. Blaustein clearly knew what direction he wanted to take the characters in. Yet she says she wants to make it a little more natural. ;

    How can she claim that she wants to retain the same context and respect for the game? For that matter why do the people working on the HD Collection in general?
    Because there are plenty of people like me who believe the performances are not good by VA standards, only by video game VA standards, and VG VA standards are much better now than they were 10 years ago.

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  • Kei_M
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    I respect Donna's work, don't get me wrong, but it's very...um... unique. I think what they're trying to do is create a cast that's reminiscent of the original cast, but still very much their own. Mary was over-exaggerating Angela's voice, but I think she was just trying to make a point on why they needed to adjust it a bit. She was just having a bit of fun.

    I'm excited to have a new Angela, to be honest, I wasn't incredibly fond of it.

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  • Smiley
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    Most of the characters have an otherworldly presence to them. You can't really argue that James is completely normal and sane if he's heading to town to look for his dead wife. Same applies to Angela although she's clearly a wreck. That knife scene gave me chills.

    Mary Elizabeth made it sound like the whole thing was unnatural as though this was a bad thing. That non-actors were giving off awkward performances. Blaustein clearly knew what direction he wanted to take the characters in. Yet she says she wants to make it a little more natural. ;

    How can she claim that she wants to retain the same context and respect for the game? For that matter why do the people working on the HD Collection in general?

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Tomm Hulett says the HD version is the ideal way to play Silent Hill 2 and 3 then that's rubbish. The way Team Silent designed the games are the ideal way. Every decision going into this HD collection has been from a business standpoint. Some good (multiplatform instead of PS3 only) and some bad (Exclusion of Silent Hill 4). Removing the original performances is just one more thing to add to the list.

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  • GuardhouseMusic
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    Originally posted by Mr_Zombie View Post
    But Angela did sound ridiculous in SH2. I have nothing against Donna Burke (I had no idea she also did Claudia's voice and she did great job with that), but Angela in SH2 sounds really bad. And they will have a hard time redoing her voice to match to the actual animations.

    It's really amazing how both Cihi and Horgan just responds to the while situation like rational adults, while the new James' and Maria's voice actors mocks and insults them. Really immature.
    Angela was emotionally drained, her voice basically reflected abuse and the resultant stress, thus her airy, deflated, almost drunk intonation. It's strange, but that's also kinda the point.

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  • Mr_Zombie
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    Originally posted by Smiley View Post
    Then that's all she had to say. She didn't need to mock the way the character had sounded.
    But Angela did sound ridiculous in SH2. I have nothing against Donna Burke (I had no idea she also did Claudia's voice and she did great job with that), but Angela in SH2 sounds really bad. And they will have a hard time redoing her voice to match to the actual animations.

    It's really amazing how both Cihi and Horgan just responds to the while situation like rational adults, while the new James' and Maria's voice actors mocks and insults them. Really immature.
    Last edited by Mr_Zombie; 09-19-2011, 06:35 AM.

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  • Smiley
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    Then that's all she had to say. She didn't need to mock the way the character had sounded.

    Then there was her comments about the actors in general. Being non actors and the like which Monica felt the need to respond to.

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  • Dracarys
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    She was talking about the way Angela speaks and how it is hard to redo over the original VA, not the quality of the VA. There is a very clear difference.

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  • Rombie
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    Originally posted by Smiley View Post
    All I want is a good game. If it looks appealing on my HD TV then I could care how bare bones it is. But the extra effort is always a plus.

    When it comes to Silent Hill there's some people that believe the new voice performances are about 'quality'. As though Konami feels the previous actors weren't good enough. Frankly I find that insulting. Look at this Mary Elizabeth McGlynn video and read the response from the original voice of Mary/Maria in the comments section below. Tell me how you feel:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl7rAQuf10E
    Re: HD - Yeah, no I totally agree with you as well. I just saw a bunch of moaning, VG jornos in particular, that stuff like the MGS and RE4 releases are HD upgrades in the most simple of sense, but I think thats missing the point. Thats what most people do want, the same game in a higher res.

    I read the comments on that video and it was enough without even watching McGlynn dig herself into a hole. I hope she wises up and writes or voices an apology somewhere, otherwise this may blow up into a full blown boycott of the release.

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  • Gradon
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    Oh wow, the irony of that. I looked up to Mary ElizaBeth McGlynn, but this is ridiculous and unprofessional of her. I can't believe all of that to be honest.

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  • Smiley
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    I especially didn't like her jab at Angela's voice. Pretty unprofessional. Donna Burke has voice acted in SH2 and SH3. She continues to work regularly in the business and isn't some non-actor from Malaysia.

    In fact she even sings as well and can be heard in another HD game that will actually have her performance in tact. You might have heard of it. No big deal. It's a little something called Heavens Divide from METAL GEAR SOLID: PEACE WALKER.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGlSak7hG0U
    Last edited by Smiley; 09-18-2011, 10:18 AM.

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  • GuardhouseMusic
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    Wow, the company's essentially enacted a smear campaign against Cihi, haven't they? Sad thing is, a lot of people are eating up this nonsense about him, calling him crazy and such. Now McGlynn's saying dismissive and insulting things about him, such as "he's not even an actor, never done anything before or after SH2" (disproven by Maria's original VA in the comment Smiley mentioned). She's acting like a fool.

    "Mary and Marie." *facepalm*
    Last edited by GuardhouseMusic; 09-17-2011, 11:57 PM.

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  • Smiley
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    All I want is a good game. If it looks appealing on my HD TV then I could care how bare bones it is. But the extra effort is always a plus.

    When it comes to Silent Hill there's some people that believe the new voice performances are about 'quality'. As though Konami feels the previous actors weren't good enough. Frankly I find that insulting. Look at this Mary Elizabeth McGlynn video and read the response from the original voice of Mary/Maria in the comments section below. Tell me how you feel:

    EDIT: The guy who recorded it did not anticipate the negative responses regarding what she says in the video and set it to private after contemplating whether he wanted to take it down or not. It's been re-uploaded below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamaqGBj3OQ
    Last edited by Smiley; 09-20-2011, 11:40 AM.

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  • Rombie
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    I was more meaning, and this applies also to Santa Monica's work in GOW 1 and 2, that the team originally worked so hard on the assets of the game that HD versions were able to be made that improved such details in an HD. If you don't have that basis there then the HD edition looks like ass (see the PoP trilogy HD as one great example).

    Mind you these days if your HD edition is barebones and nothing more than a visual update people start getting pissy and want something like that Halo Anniversary title. I don't know how we can go from acclaimed GOW Collection to this moaning about getting an HD visual upgraded but otherwise 1:1 port in 2 years.

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  • Smiley
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    Well a lot of it goes to Bluepoint who are developing the MGS HD Collection. They also handled the God of War HD Collection as well.

    And yes this will be the first time MGS3 runs in 60fps and it looks glorious.

    Also check out the Peace Walker HD video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6KIPknXcds
    Last edited by Smiley; 09-16-2011, 12:29 AM.

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