HD Collection PS3 Exclusive (Hah! 360 too) /New VAs

[riderkid]

So, how hard do you think Konami needs slapping, as a collective whole, before they realize how dumb it is not to release a game because they had negative fan criticism while modifying an existing game in such a way as to create far, far more negative fan criticism?

I also kinda believe Guy more than the new voice actor, for some reason, although obviously there's no way to be sure. It makes a lot more sense for Konami to decide to change the voice actors in light of not being able to use one because of legal shenanigans than it does for them to have decided to completely re-do the voice track (which costs money) and the voice actor demanding something he knows he can't have. At least, it makes more sense to me.

personally they need an attack from mr sodomy donkey...

[Canas Renvall]

^ I thought that was him in the Shadows of the Damned credits at the end... Love that duet~

[Smiley]

For anyone who followed Troy Baker's interview he said he played live with Akira Yamaoka before. Here's the video if anyone's interested. They play SH2's Theme of Laura and Broken Dreams from Shadows of the Damned. Mary Elizabeth McGlynn is also in the video.

[Darkmoon]

So, how hard do you think Konami needs slapping, as a collective whole, before they realize how dumb it is not to release a game because they had negative fan criticism while modifying an existing game in such a way as to create far, far more negative fan criticism?

I also kinda believe Guy more than the new voice actor, for some reason, although obviously there's no way to be sure. It makes a lot more sense for Konami to decide to change the voice actors in light of not being able to use one because of legal shenanigans than it does for them to have decided to completely re-do the voice track (which costs money) and the voice actor demanding something he knows he can't have. At least, it makes more sense to me.

[riderkid]

What a bunch of bullshit. So SH4 not in the collection is because fans don't like it, but its TOTALLY COOL to change the VA and the music for both SH2 & SH3 which were fine as they were? The Room is a great game, at least for me.

to add on to my statement from earlier to konami

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHYf-PqmCyY

[Beanovsky Durst]

(source:The Magicbox) Konami explained that the reason Silent Hill 4 was excluded from the Silent Hill HD Collection for PS3 and Xbox 360, was because of fans reactions, Konami just wanted to include the most popular parts of the series in the collection.

What a bunch of bullshit. So SH4 not in the collection is because fans don't like it, but its TOTALLY COOL to change the VA and the music for both SH2 & SH3 which were fine as they were? The Room is a great game, at least for me.

[riderkid]

Update: Guy Cihi has made the following statement on his Facebook page:

“The problem with Konami is that there were never any agreements for reuses of my performance. In fact… there aren’t any written agreements at all. It was an oversight on Konami’s part. Once Sony picked up the theatrical rights for the SH2 title, I guess Konami figured it would spark interest for a yet another re-release. So after many years of no contact, Konami asks me to sign a back-dated release. I said that I was open to discussing reuses of my performance. I never heard back from them. Instead of talking to me, Konami decided to create new voice tracks.”

...ever sicne reading the above statement and the reason of no SH4 in the colelction is due to fan reactions (irony?) i have had to start taking blood pressure pills like fucking candy!

[Smiley]

Update: Guy Cihi has made the following statement on his Facebook page (thanks to alchemillahospital.net):

[riderkid]

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(source:The Magicbox) Konami explained that the reason Silent Hill 4 was excluded from the Silent Hill HD Collection for PS3 and Xbox 360, was because of fans reactions, Konami just wanted to include the most popular parts of the series in the collection.

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[Smiley]

Did they need to though?

[Dracarys]

Sounds very fishy. Troy speaks on behalf of his experience in the voice industry yet despite his advice he does seem to be shift the blame to Guy Cihi even though James is not eh only character being replaced. If it was just James then this would make sense to me as would Douglas from SH3 given his VA's death. But no, we clearly hear the other SH2 character having replacements as well including Mary Elizabeth casting herself as the pivotal female lead in SH2.

Sorry to sound like a cranky git, but I do believe there's more to it than what Troy is letting on.

He also says they decided to give everyone new VAs to make it feel newer. If they needed replace a VA from each game anyway why not?

[Smiley]

Sounds very fishy. Troy speaks on behalf of his experience in the voice industry yet despite his advice he does seem to be shift the blame to Guy Cihi even though James is not eh only character being replaced. If it was just James then this would make sense to me as would Douglas from SH3 given his VA's death. But no, we clearly hear the other SH2 character having replacements as well including Mary Elizabeth casting herself as the pivotal female lead in SH2.

Sorry to sound like a cranky git, but I do believe there's more to it than what Troy is letting on.

[MeanBob]

In case you guys didn't see, the team over at RelyOnHorror reported an interview from TheGamingLiberty with Troy Baker, the new voice actor for James Sunderland. He shed a bit of light about Guy Cihi getting contacted and how Konami really wanted him to be back on board to voice James again.

Apparently, Guy was offered the role in the HD Collection, but ultimately turned it down due to his demand for residuals that did not exist.

“You never bash your employers. You never bash the people who gave you a huge leg up no matter what they’ve done or what you feel that they’ve done. But the fact that he’s talking about residuals being in videogames shows you just how out of the loop he is because residuals don’t happen. They don’t exist.” said Baker.

I don't think any of us are so sure about these "non-existent" residuals, but...

The rest of article can be seen here:

http://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/troy-baker-explains-why-james-sunderland-was-recast/

http://thegamingliberty.com/index.php/2011/08/23/exclusive-interview-troy-baker-the-new-james-sunderland/

[Dracarys]

also they announced the prices for the re HD games?

1600 MS points / £16. Each.

[riderkid]

With MGS HD it makes sense. You're getting the complete versions of MGS2 and 3 (which include the old-school Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake) not to mention Peace Walker on home consoles.

With the Silent Hill collection you're at least getting the complete version of Silent Hill 2, however the Maria minigame and new voice performances do not warrant the extra ten dollars IMO as the MGS content excels way more in that variety.

Also RE4 and Code Veronica have their complete versions and are about $40 in total.

my only complaint with MGS was the exclusion of MGS1, thats my only complaint as i have tried both games and enjoyed them. i just wished that MGS1 was in the package. I think honestly that silent hill will not be worth it. if they add a classic option then yes i will try it but until they admit there wrong im sorry, i'll rent downpour and stick with SWtor.

also they announced the prices for the re HD games?