Resident Evil 6

[Kei_M]

Just beat Leon's scenario, enjoying it so far! I keep turning/lowering the scope and finding a zombie standing right in front of me and it scares the shit out of me every time. lol. Helena surprisingly grew on me :O

Also, near tears because I've finally gotten to play Resident Evil 1 Dual Shock Directors Cut <strike>ALPHA X 3!!!</strike> I heard about the differences but this is my first time experiencing them! I love the new soundtrack ;-;

[Canas Renvall]

Well the NDS sold over 150 million units, so unless the 3DS sells another 130 million units in the next five to ten years I think to call it unsuccessful is a pretty accurate description of its sales.

The 3DS is on pace right now to outsell the NDS, so...

Edit: And even if it doesn't hit the same mark as NDS, pretty sure even just 50 million units is a success. Hell, the very moment they turn a profit makes it a success, so really it already is successful because they've already started making money from it. It doesn't have to outdo the NDS to be successful, that's silly.

However, I do agree that Revelations got shafted sales-wise due mostly to the reasons Paul and others have stated: It was exclusive to one handheld with a fairly new install base since it wasn't even a year old yet, while ORC was released on two home consoles, and then the PC as well, and both consoles had 6 or so years to build up a large fanbase.

[Pikminister]

ORC outsold Revelations due to the handheld system that the latter was exclusive to. Had Revelations been available on the big boy consoles, it would not have been hard to imagine it vastly outselling ORC.

I understand that. But I was just pointing out that the more traditional-like RE game came out on a Nintendo system, while a more mainstream-friendly RE game came out on the HD twins. And it seems that Capcom's strategy paid off in those two cases.

Thing is, they're doing what Nintendo did to survive this gen. There was no future for them going after cores. Not with MS and Sony getting most of them.

Capcom is going after cores and casuals. But its clear that they're listening and targeting one more than the other. They have said it themselves.

[Shield Key]

I know I'm in that group. I'd love to play Revelations, but I'm not buying 3DS for it. Had to settle for watching a playthrough.

[News Bot]

The 3DS had a very small amount of BH fans in its install base. Don't know how many times I've seen "I'd buy it, but I don't have a 3DS".

Thanks for the corrections. The exact numbers were't really important, the point I was getting at is that in recent years a lot of the unsuccessful (survival horror esque) RE games have been on unsuccessful consoles. Capcom are making risks on systems with a small user base and stating that survival horror doesn't sell, where they could be making risks on a system with a large user base and getting far more accurate data. ORC is just a perfect example of a sub par game still selling well on a popular system.

[Dracarys]

The argument of unsuccessful RE titles isn't quite justified imo. Often the success of a RE title is equivelant to the success of the system. RE0 and RER were both unsuccessful, but so were the NGC and 3DS respectively. The PS3 and 360 have much bigger audiences so for ORC to have bigger numbers than RER isn't a surprise. Hell I'm a RE fan and I still haven't bought a 3DS or RER, not because RER is a bad game but because the 3DS is an undesirable system.

RE0 sold 1.3 million on the NGC. RE4 sold 1.7 million on the NGC and 3.6 million on the PS2. This just shows the more popular the system the better the sales.

Size of a console install base does not affect sales like you are thinking it does. The 3DS has sold twice what Dreamcast did, yet CV has sold more than Revelations, 3DS sales are about the same as GC, yet Revelations does not match any GC RE games sales. Your RE4 numbers are well off too, on GC RE4 sold 1.6m, PS2 RE4 sold 2.2 million. Only a 600k difference when the PS2 sold 6-7 times what the GC did.

Actually, the 3DS has sold 7 million units in Japan alone as of August. It's apparently the most pre-ordered system in nintendo history in addition. Sure, I don't think it'll reach console numbers, but to call it unsuccessful is pretty ignorant.

There is a reason Nintendo bombed that price down.

Actually, the 3DS has sold 7 million units in Japan alone as of August. It's apparently the most pre-ordered system in nintendo history in addition. Sure, I don't think it'll reach console numbers, but to call it unsuccessful is pretty ignorant.

Well the NDS sold over 150 million units, so unless the 3DS sells another 130 million units in the next five to ten years I think to call it unsuccessful is a pretty accurate description of its sales.

[Det. Beauregard]

But then again, Nintendo got Revelations and the HD twins got ORC. And which one sold the most? ORC.

ORC outsold Revelations due to the handheld system that the latter was exclusive to. Had Revelations been available on the big boy consoles, it would not have been hard to imagine it vastly outselling ORC.

[Dark_Chris]

this is sad
4.5kk of this game already shipped, come f*ing on

regarding less they still pc version and lot of time to make 7kk before end of fiscal year
Kobayashi is an ass, he is blind by its creation

i lol'd hard when i saw his last interviews, this guy will still make cod of evil with colossal doses of qte and michael bay cutscenes
for our sake

i can't feel any motivation to finish this game more than twice like i do since re 1 to 5
qte sucks and badly done, leon act 3 still uninspired by playing this in seccond time, you see the graphics is crap as it is by seeking the blue emblems

what i expect for resi7?
Cutscene, linear gameplay, frenetic shoot and melee action, qte, qte, qte and more moronic annoying qte, cutscenes, more linear play through, more qte, a level you will spend a hour doing qtes

Cry me a river... Don't like it, don't play it.

[HOTvirus]

this is sad
4.5kk of this game already shipped, come f*ing on

regarding less they still pc version and lot of time to make 7kk before end of fiscal year
Kobayashi is an ass, he is blind by its creation

i lol'd hard when i saw his last interviews, this guy will still make cod of evil with colossal doses of qte and michael bay cutscenes
for our sake

i can't feel any motivation to finish this game more than twice like i do since re 1 to 5
qte sucks and badly done, leon act 3 still uninspired by playing this in seccond time, you see the graphics is crap as it is by seeking the blue emblems

what i expect for resi7?
Cutscene, linear gameplay, frenetic shoot and melee action, qte, qte, qte and more moronic annoying qte, cutscenes, more linear play through, more qte, a level you will spend a hour doing qtes

[GuardhouseMusic]

The argument of unsuccessful RE titles isn't quite justified imo. Often the success of a RE title is equivelant to the success of the system. RE0 and RER were both unsuccessful, but so were the NGC and 3DS respectively. The PS3 and 360 have much bigger audiences so for ORC to have bigger numbers than RER isn't a surprise. Hell I'm a RE fan and I still haven't bought a 3DS or RER, not because RER is a bad game but because the 3DS is an undesirable system.

RE0 sold 1.3 million on the NGC. RE4 sold 1.7 million on the NGC and 3.6 million on the PS2. This just shows the more popular the system the better the sales.

Actually, the 3DS has sold 7 million units in Japan alone as of August. It's apparently the most pre-ordered system in nintendo history in addition. Sure, I don't think it'll reach console numbers, but to call it unsuccessful is pretty ignorant.

[Spera01]

Why is RE.net such shit? I can barely access it and when I do, I get errors everywhere and none of my correct information is showing. Sigh.

I finished Leon's campaign earlier. I absolutely loved it until the end. The final boss, while extremely cool looking, is such a bitch to fight. I also had to do the worst QTE I've ever had to do in my life. What were they thinking? Besides that, the gameplay before hand I thought was great. Hell, I actually jumped at one part during Leon's campaign. Definitely a welcome treat. The story seems weird so far but it also does not seem bad. I'm starting Chris's now. I keep hearing good things about his campaign, so I'm looking forward to it.

[Shield Key]

Nah, I'm 99.9% sure about what you meant to say.

My mistake though, was giving you too much credit. Despite what you had said about trying to understand the opinions that went against yours, you only said that for dramatic effect. You didn't really mean it. Amiright?

Nope. Still wrong. There was nothing in my statement that insulted anyone that dislikes RE6, and there was no judgment put forth. I simply stated that those three groups have an almost unanimous hate for this game, which is a fact everyone agrees on, and that I was confused by their hatred.

There literally was nothing in my post about having a problem with people expressing their opinion. There was simply a statement of befuddlement.

In ORC, every AI go right in front of you so you couldn't shoot or at least, hit those stupid bots. RE6 its the same?

It's not really bad it's just annoying, you find rooms end up really crowded and the game is so dark it's hard to tell who is who half the time. Bullets are flying all over the place, near and affar, the AI obscures cover points, sometimes it's okay but sometimes you have one tiny corridor with you, six AI and a bunch of enemies coming from all angles, it's super crowded. There's just no need for it all.

To put it bluntly, Kobayashi has absolutely no faith in survivor horror or its fans. He doesn't believe RE can survive with only that sub-genre and said fan base pushing it forward. He's convinced that they need casuals in order to thrive and keep going for the long haul.

What I find hilarious is that this sort of madness is happening on the HD twins and not on a Nintendo console. Where you would expect such bullshit. But then again, Nintendo got Revelations and the HD twins got ORC. And which one sold the most? ORC.

So, I guess Kobayashi and Kawata have a point. From a $ale$ point of view.

The argument of unsuccessful RE titles isn't quite justified imo. Often the success of a RE title is equivelant to the success of the system. RE0 and RER were both unsuccessful, but so were the NGC and 3DS respectively. The PS3 and 360 have much bigger audiences so for ORC to have bigger numbers than RER isn't a surprise. Hell I'm a RE fan and I still haven't bought a 3DS or RER, not because RER is a bad game but because the 3DS is an undesirable system.

RE0 sold 1.3 million on the NGC. RE4 sold 1.7 million on the NGC and 3.6 million on the PS2. This just shows the more popular the system the better the sales.